yukichigai
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Another good example. Have you guys any idea how many Sega Sports XBOX games I've bought because they came out at $19.99 vs. EA Sports' $49.99 ? I see a price like that and my eyes light up like it's a Christmas sale... I'm on it like flies on s#!t, even though I have a modded xbox and can get it for free.
But, that's my point.
Morality doesn't even enter into a pirate's mind for consideration.
They don't think: "Gee, should I buy this $45 product, or steal this $600 product...hmm...maybe I should check out the features of each and see which I need?" I mean, if they still decided to steal the more expensive product, at least they CONSIDERED an honest course of action.
Instead, they just see "I could get a $45 product, or a $600 product, the more expensive one must be better, so I'll get that". That one involves stealing and the other involves buying simply isn't even a concern. They are so used to stealing they don't even attempt to justify it, and simply consider theft as just another equally valid way of getting something (or, sometimes, post on various forums with half-assed justifications to stealing).
Way to generalize, dumbsh|t. :thumbsup:
I've done many-a-time exactly what you say pirates can't seem to do: consider the product, it's price, and what I absolutely need to do.
I've done many-a-time exactly what you say pirates can't seem to do: consider the product, it's price, and what I absolutely need to do.
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Who actually knew Elements is almost everything Photoshop is ? If the piraters already have the premier product, why consider the bastard child in the first place ? It's assumed inferior in terms of capability. You're right in Photoshop's case - I never looked into it or done any kind of comparison. I certainly never knew it was only $45 and most importantly, I didn't know about its similar capabilities. Morals don't come into play until only then, IMO.
And it makes you wonder how a few added features is worth over $500 more.
You're lumping everyone into the once-a-pirater, always-a-pirater category ... that I must disagree with.
Originally posted by: Aquaman
back in the day............... when I had a C64......... I had 99.9% of my software pirated......... but I was a kid with no money and everyone was doing it :Q
Cheers,
Aquaman
Remember the convention/meetings where people would have pirated software?
I do.
With photoshop and other industry standard (expensive) programs like it, typically a person/business will have to purchase the program before they can publish something using it.
I think this is the main reason people buy the programs.
I think this is the main reason people buy the programs.
IAteYourMother
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i disagree.
the majority who already pirate "to boost his collection" would do it
those who actually play games will fork over the 20 dollars and gladly pay for it if the game is GOOD
not to mention a 20 dollar would bring a lot more people to buy the game. except for the fact that now each copy you sold is only 40% of what it could've been. Sega tried it with their sports series... dont know if they will keep that model for the coming annual sports games refresh
I can't afford to pay for photoshop so I pirate it and then spread the word on how great it is. If I had to buy it, I wouldn't, and then adobe would loose my free advertising
Also, I don't have the $10,000 it would cost to fill up my ipod, so I pirate and spread the word of how great the artists are. If I had to buy the music, I wouldn't because I couldn't afford it, and then the artists would loose my free advertising.
Also, I don't have the $10,000 it would cost to fill up my ipod, so I pirate and spread the word of how great the artists are. If I had to buy the music, I wouldn't because I couldn't afford it, and then the artists would loose my free advertising.
back in the day............... when I had a C64......... I had 99.9% of my software pirated......... but I was a kid with no money and everyone was doing it
Me too! Those were the days. Then came the Commodore Amiga, I never bought a single game for it, I spent all my pocket money on blank disks!
Me too! Those were the days. Then came the Commodore Amiga, I never bought a single game for it, I spent all my pocket money on blank disks!
i like to have the CD
what happens if some one gets the nopir.b virus?
all the MP3's they've payed for would be gone
radioouman
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That's what I was going to say.
I would consider buying Windows for $100 because I used it all the time.
If I only use the office suite 10% of the time, then I only want to pay a fraction of the cost of Windows. ($10 doesn't make sense, but $50 would.) I would easily buy most things that I use if it was all under $100.
Cerb
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For businesses. You're supposed to use Photshop CS/Elements. Also, companies like Adobe know that their stuff is spread around, and while they are working on low-cost versions, it's much more to their advantage to make sure that business users pay up than to crack down on other users, who would use the GIMP if Adobe made it hard to get and use PS for free. Personally, I think having tiered distribution is good. Most people don't need the full Photoshop anymore than they need Norton AV Corporate at home (MechBgon excluded
). Also, it's not worth worrying about the primary school and college kids, as most couldn't pay, anyway.
Unless you actually wanted those songs, in which case, $13 is nice, and often it's less than that for albums that are actually good (look at some sellers on amazon, like cdgiveaways--they rock
).Or, in case you wanted lossless, as there isn't that much of that out there. BTW, I do want lossless. And liner notes. For $10 or under. Much of the time, I can get it. Half the time I can't, it's not going to the RIAA, so I just deal with it, as at least then I can be pretty sure they aren't intentionally trying to screw me.
As always, retail CDs need to be moved down to $8-13, rather than $12-17. Corporations should exist to serve the people, not excessively pad their pockets, nor have the ability to have organizations of friendly competitors.
There are always those people. People who get some thrill out of it. What can you do?
The lower price theory is not BS: a $30 app is not a $200 or $600 app. Not paying for a $30 app is just being stupid.
Um, the trial version and a decent book? Dreamweaver is not hard.
Non-free software, not counting games, that I use:
1. Windows 2000. Were it not for games and EAC's secure mode, I wouldn't even use this. If EAC worked well under Linux (WINE or Crossover Office), I'd ditch it for my main OS, only having it for games.
2. Deepburner (beer free).
3. Paint Shop Pro 6--still does what little I need.
4. Foobar2000 (beer free).
5. EAC (bee free, keeping me from using Linux as a main OS).
6. Rivatuner (beer free, AFAIK).
6. MBM
( beer free, and dead)7. Aida32 (can't use Everest yet: home domain) (beer free)
8. Misc. drivers (beer free).
I can't think of anything else that isn't free, and good enough to keep using. OpenOffice 1.x's tables is about all that's annoyingly lacking.
UNCjigga
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Interesting, I never knew Elements had all those features. I thought I had an Adobe Elements software that came with my printer awhile back and I tried it out and it sucked. Couldn't use any KPT tools or external filters. Half the brushes and tools were missing, less customization of brushes and tools, and it had some memory limit on size of files and couldn't do all the format conversions.
daniel1113
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There are those ESPN console sports games that are $20 bucks new. The publisher said a lot of people who would never bother buying a major league sports game (or stealing it I am sure), are buying those games. Stealing is not inevitable in software IMO.
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Again, is it so hard to believe more people would actually buy the product if it were cheaper ? In turn, they can also profit higher with more customers. Has this been disproven anywhere ? I'd really like to know. Hell, look what happens when things go on sale... you don't think they actually take a loss do you ?
Good cust.sat. doesn't hurt either. We all love a company with good customer service and "would definitely buy again".
You charge customers outrageous prices and what do you get ? A bunch of disgruntled people who EXPECT top service to go along with it. When they don't get it... no more return customers and also a lot of bad-mouthing.
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