Two Polls Show Americans Don't Want Tax-Funded Embryonic Stem Cell Research

[Riprorin]

According to the poll, 69 percent of Americans want to ban all human cloning while only 24 percent of respondents backed Kerry's position saying that "cloning to create human embryos for stem cell research which would kill them should be allowed and only cloning for reproduction should be banned."

Kerry has co-sponsored a Senate bill calling for researchers to be able to clone human embryos specifically for the purpose of killing them for their stem cells.

Poll 1

Poll 2

 

[glenn1]

Too bad the polls didn't ask whether Americans wanted any tax-funded stem cell research at all, embyonic or otherwise, else the results might have been even more lopsided.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: glenn1
Too bad the polls didn't ask whether Americans wanted any tax-funded stem cell research at all, embyonic or otherwise, else the results might have been even more lopsided.

They are.

Way to post from "lifenews.com," Rip.

Here are the poll numbers from a reputable source:

Those who believe that "using stem cells from human embryos for research comes too close to allowing scientists play God" have fallen sharply from 40% in 2001 to only 19% now.

Those who believe that "allowing any medical research using stem cells from human embryos should be forbidden because it is unethical and immoral" have also fallen sharply from 32% to 15% over the last three years.

 

[glenn1]

They are.

Way to post from "lifenews.com," Rip.

Here are the poll numbers from a reputable source:


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Those who believe that "using stem cells from human embryos for research comes too close to allowing scientists play God" have fallen sharply from 40% in 2001 to only 19% now.

Those who believe that "allowing any medical research using stem cells from human embryos should be forbidden because it is unethical and immoral" have also fallen sharply from 32% to 15% over the last three years.
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I don't give a sh!t about poll questions asking if it's "unethical and immoral." I want a poll question asking whether we should be spending tax dollars on this crap, or whether we should allow Merck and Pfizer to pay for stem cell research on their own, without any tax dollars.

For christsakes, the government can barely handle delivering my mail and filling potholes in the roads, much less stem cell research.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I want a poll question asking whether we should be spending tax dollars on this crap

I wouldn't care about that either.

 

[Acanthus]

All i know is im behind it. The research is critical to the advancement of medicine and possibly the key to curing dozens of diseases within the next 25 years.

 

[Stunt]

yo rip...because you are republican i can see you wanting to see a privately funded system.

But to bring the loop around, think of how many lives can be saved through this research. Perhaps start developing cures to some of the complications due to little environmental control over the last term.

Also, being in favour of this research will prove to be great for the economy as baby boomers are older and have lots of money.

If you are a true republican, you should endorse stem cell research...as it good for the economy, saves real peoples lives, not cells.

Kill is a harsh word for stem cells...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: glenn1

I don't give a sh!t about poll questions asking if it's "unethical and immoral." I want a poll question asking whether we should be spending tax dollars on this crap, or whether we should allow Merck and Pfizer to pay for stem cell research on their own, without any tax dollars.

For christsakes, the government can barely handle delivering my mail and filling potholes in the roads, much less stem cell research.

Exclusively private-funded research will mean that the research, and results, are under the exclusive control of the drug companies who subsidize it. This is bad for science and bad for the public.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: glenn1

I don't give a sh!t about poll questions asking if it's "unethical and immoral." I want a poll question asking whether we should be spending tax dollars on this crap, or whether we should allow Merck and Pfizer to pay for stem cell research on their own, without any tax dollars.

For christsakes, the government can barely handle delivering my mail and filling potholes in the roads, much less stem cell research.

Exclusively private-funded research will mean that the research, and results, are under the exclusive control of the drug companies who subsidize it. This is bad for science and bad for the public.

Why is it bad?

 

[Stunt]

they will patent and charge a massive price, effectively creating a monopoly, which is economically the least ideal situation, except for a small minority who own the company.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
All i know is im behind it. The research is critical to the advancement of medicine and possibly the key to curing dozens of diseases within the next 25 years.

cord blood stem cells

DURHAM, N.C. -- Stem cells from a newborn baby's umbilical cord blood can save the lives of children with Hurler's syndrome and can repair much of the progressive brain and organ damage that would otherwise be fatal to children, according to physicians at the Duke Comprehensive Cancer Center's Pediatric Blood and Marrow Transplant Program.

In fact, survival was higher and complications lower among the Duke children who received cord blood than among children previously described in the medical literature who had received adult bone marrow, said Duke's Susan Staba, M.D., lead author of the study. Results of the study in 20 children with Hurler's Syndrome are published in the May 6, 2004, issue of the New England Journal of Medicine. The research was partially funded by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute.

Bone marrow from adult donors can save some Hurler's patients, but an exact match cannot be found in time for more than 50 percent of children, and time is critical in treating these children, said the researchers. Moreover, adult bone marrow fails to engraft in 28 to 37 percent of Hurler's patients, meaning the donor bone marrow does not take hold and begin to grow in the patient.

Granted there were a lot of failures in the beginning . . . thank goodness some moron with no real knowledge of science could stifle innovation . . .

 

[DealMonkey]

All right! More "news" from the anti-abortionists! Cool, I'm gonna go ask the union bosses to generate some "news" about the new OT laws! Sweet!

:roll:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
they will patent and charge a massive price, effectively creating a monopoly, which is economically the least ideal situation, except for a small minority who own the company.

Bad for the public maybe, but I don't see how a company taking its own intiative is bad for science.

 

[villager]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: glenn1
Too bad the polls didn't ask whether Americans wanted any tax-funded stem cell research at all, embyonic or otherwise, else the results might have been even more lopsided.

They are.

Way to post from "lifenews.com," Rip.

Here are the poll numbers from a reputable source:

Those who believe that "using stem cells from human embryos for research comes too close to allowing scientists play God" have fallen sharply from 40% in 2001 to only 19% now.

Those who believe that "allowing any medical research using stem cells from human embryos should be forbidden because it is unethical and immoral" have also fallen sharply from 32% to 15% over the last three years.

I would like to see the methodology behind this poll.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: villager

I would like to see the methodology behind this poll.

Check out the link. The Harris Poll is often regarded as the most reliable in the US, and universally considered one of the best.

 

[villager]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: villager

I would like to see the methodology behind this poll.

Check out the link. The Harris Poll is often regarded as the most reliable in the US, and universally considered one of the best.

I meant the one Rip linked. It was funded by U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: villager

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: villager

I would like to see the methodology behind this poll.

Check out the link. The Harris Poll is often regarded as the most reliable in the US, and universally considered one of the best.

I meant the one Rip linked. It was funded by U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

They probably stood outside of Catholic churches waiting to poll people. :laugh:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: villager

I meant the one Rip linked. It was funded by U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Ahhhh - I agree. I frankly would be deeply skeptical of any poll posted on lifenews.com that wasn't from Gallup, Harris, or another well-established polling agency.

 

[alchemize]

<---Neocon for all stem cell research, taxpayer funded or otherwise. Assuming there are legal and ethical standards applied to the collection of them.

 

[thuper]

Does this mean that most Americans are also against in vitro fertilization? Do they not want couples to have a chance?

Its the same process as getting embryonic stem cells. Thousands of zygotes are created and then destroyed. The only difference is that for stem cells, you destroy one more.

 

[RabidMongoose]

What is the current stance on the stem cell research issue? Is it that Bush doesn't want to use federal funds in research of it or is it completely banned?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
they will patent and charge a massive price, effectively creating a monopoly, which is economically the least ideal situation, except for a small minority who own the company.

Bad for the public maybe, but I don't see how a company taking its own intiative is bad for science.

Very true. It isn't bad for science.

I was thinking it comes down to two options:

1) public money develops through institutions, pharmas create products similar but can compete based on the progression of the tech.

2) private money to intitutions, the funder gets exclusive rights.

1 is better for the public but costs at the government level. 2 is more right as it is less government and encourages pharmas to r&amp;d. But if public isn't funding as much, and private can do MUCH more. I can see the reasoning for 2...Again, i was refering to the same amounts in the situations above. Not an issue of science knowledge, but the end product.

 

[Todd33]

The poll also shows that Americans overwhelmingly (80 to 13 percent) oppose the position taken by Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry -- that human cloning should be allowed to create human embryos only to be destroyed for their stem cells.

Show me where Kerry said he supports this. Rip, how about you stick to real news sights and not whacky Jesus freaks with an agenda?

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
What is the current stance on the stem cell research issue? Is it that Bush doesn't want to use federal funds in research of it or is it completely banned?

If i could add...

What is Bush's stance?
What is GOP stance?
What is currently happening in the US?
Are comapanies doing research in other countries who allow this type of development?

 

[Veramocor]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
What is the current stance on the stem cell research issue? Is it that Bush doesn't want to use federal funds in research of it or is it completely banned?

If i could add...

What is Bush's stance?
What is GOP stance?
What is currently happening in the US?
Are comapanies doing research in other countries who allow this type of development?

What is Bush's stance:

Government funding for 50 or so stem cell lines already created. No more creation of stem cell lines after that with gov funds. Doesnt effect private funding. The 50 or so stem cell lines already created are said to not be of high quality.

GOP stance: Dpeneds on if itsa the senate or house. House is more with Bush. But in general many GOP are for increasing gov funding.

Currently: Private research is going on. Gov. funding research only with the pre created stem cell lines, which stink. Some states like NJ and California have passed bills to fund stem cell research at the state level.