Two machine Internet Connection Sharing

[blackhawk]

I have two home computers networked and have a dial up internet on one that I want to share on the other. It doesn't even have to be at the same time. I don't know anything about it except that it is in the win98se and has to be enabled.
If its fairly simple, then could someone direct me to a site or would it be easier to put a cheap winmodem in the second machine and forget about the ICS? I'm as much interested in learning as doing.

 

[ctowle]

You could put a NIC in each machine and dial up through one and share the connection with the second machine.

You can connect the two NICS via a crossover cable, and connect them directly. Or you could use a hub and connect the two machines together via the hub. Both options will arrive at the same result, just with different wiring configurations.

An educational site to look at is honepclan.com

Hope this helps

 

[blackhawk]

That is a great site and I used it to get my network up and running but it doesn't have anything I could find on sharing one internet connection with two computers.
I have the nic's in and crossover cable and the network works fine. I just want to be able to access the internet through the other computer. I put a spare modem in it for a while but I'm trying to sell it and thought the ICS would be fairly easy but can't do it.
Any sites for basic ICS?

 

[Nutcase99]

I just setup a network like the one you want. Well the easist way to do it is with a hub and have both computers running Win Me, there is built in network sharing in there and its really easy to setup. It's the way I got mine to work. I have gotten internet sharing to work in 2 cases once with Win2k and now with WinMe.

Just my 2 cents.

Hope that helps.

 

[obenton]

Not sure it can be done with ICS because of the extra protocols it adds - I don't think a computer with ICS sharing installed can run as a client to another ICS computer. I've done it with NAT32, however, simply by manipulating the NAT32 virtual IP addresses - so whichever computer dials in first will automatically give access to the other.

 

[ctowle]

Use a program like Sygate or a similiar ICS program. Painless to use.

Contact if you need help setting up the 'trial' version.

Good Luck

 

[snow patrol]

ctowle - I could use some help if possible. I have 2 machines networked in my house, and on one of the machines I have just had an ADSL modem installed. I'm using Win 98 (not SE), and would really like to share my DSL connection between the two using IE5 / 5.5 (do they need to be same version of IE?).

I downloaded Sygate manager, but I'm not really sure what I'm doing and I can't get the connection to share. I set did something or other to set up my PC as the server, and on the other PC I set it as client. It's showing internet connection as being 'online' on my PC (host) but I can't seem to load any pages at all on the other PC

I just want to share the connection, no fancy stuff - could you (or anyone else!) please offer any advice? It really would be much appreciated as I'm feeling a bit stuck.

Thanks, sp

 

[blackhawk]

I've tried the download trial version of Winroute Lite and it was very simple to setup and works with a few oddities for me to work out.

The downside to me is the cost. It's 79usd to register and that's a lot for 2 home computers for me. I have a second modem but would lose the ability to both surf.

Is this program worth it and what else is out there for less money?

 

[Nutcase99]

Just use windows internet connection sharing. I found it just as fast and ALOT easier to setup.

 

[ctowle]

Snow-

In the machine that has the DSL/cable modem attached to it you need to have two NICs installed in it (call this machine 1).One is to communicate to the modem(outisde world) the other servers the function of communicating to the other computers (call this machine 2) in your LAN (inside your house).

You need not use a hub to connect the 2 internal computers, you can achieve this with a crossover cable and connect NIC to NIC. Or a hub will perform the same duties using cable that is wired straight through (pin to pin is what I mean).
Make sure all the NIC's are properly installed and the OS sees them with no conflicts.

After that install Sygate on machine 1 and configure it as a server. Sygate is almost automatic about this setup. You will more than likely have to reboot after this. Reboot machine 1 and start the sygate manager. Next install sygate on machine 2 and configure it as a client machine. Again rebooting is necessary.

This sould be all there is to it. I have heard of some people when putting 2 NICs in the host PC have IRQ conflicts when they use the same model NIC. I have never encountered this, but it is something to watch for, other than that there is not much to the install.

A good site to educate yourself and maybe answer some other questions is Homepclan.com They have a forum and it is soley dedicated to this type of problem. I dont think that different Operating Systems or different versions of IE should make a difference. You are doing this over TCP/IP, it has little to do with the browser you use.

Make sure that if you do share drives in this situation that you share the drives across the NneBEUI protocol and not the TCP/IP protocol. If you are using a static IP it might be wise to use some sort of software firewall program as well.

Good Luck.

 

[ctowle]

Rowan-

CYM.

 

[snow patrol]

ctowle - thanks for the post. Did I mention that the DSL modem is USB. Is there absolutely no way of sharing the connection without having two network cards in one of the machines? Is that stil the case? Even if I were do obtain WIN98 SE and use the ICS software off of that? If I do have to have 2 NICS - is it ok to have one PCI and one ISA?

Thanks.

BTW - what does CYM mean? Check your mail? I didn't give out my mail address did I?

 

[ctowle]

CYM= check your mail.

I dont see why you wouldn't be able to share that across the USB modem. I have never dont that before (USB modem I mean) I would try going through the setup like I said, but make the first NIC the USB modem. It has to be bound to TCP/IP. After that carry out the sygate install as before.

By doing this you cannot do anything that cannot be undone, if it doesn't work I mean. Let me know the outcome. I wasn't aware that they had USB Cable/DSL modems. Neat.

What does the provider do if you have an older machine running NT 4.0 that doesnt have a USB port or if your OS doesn't support USB?

 

[snow patrol]

<< What does the provider do if you have an older machine running NT 4.0 that doesnt have a USB port or if your OS doesn't support USB? >>


I guess you're screwed in that case

The thing is, I've got the network running and I've installed sygate on both machines as I said - but I still can't seem to access the web on the second machine...are there any additional settings I should be using within IE5 / sygate etc? Thanks.

PS - why are you asking me to check my mail? I'm sure I haven't given it out?? Thanks again!

 

[snow patrol]

Sorry about this...I really am a total half-wit when it comes to networks - I just need someone to guide me through it step by tiny step