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Two Fox News commentators resign over Tucker Carlson's series on the Jan. 6 siege

himkhan

himkhan

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I haven't seen this posted? Good news when any human being removes themselves from something they know is wrong on so many levels. Fox has gone full blown Conservative Terrorist TV .

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

In separate interviews with NPR, Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg pointed to a breaking point earlier this month: network star Tucker Carlson's three-part series on the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories to exonerate the Trump supporters who participated in the attack.
"It's basically saying that the Biden regime is coming after half the country and this is the War on Terror 2.0," Goldberg tells NPR. "It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories that I think legitimately could lead to violence. That for me, and for Steve, was the last straw."



Two Fox News commentators resign over Tucker Carlson's series on the Jan. 6 siege
Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg have resigned after the Fox News star hosted a series that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories about the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

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2 Fox News commentators resign over Tucker Carlson series on the Jan. 6 siege

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg have resigned after the Fox News star hosted a series that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories about the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
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IronWing said:
Don’t confuse Jonah Goldberg with a person of integrity. Carlson is too crude for Goldberg’s self branding as a latter day Buckley. Goldberg will still be peddling his fascist screed.
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Chris Wallace is as close to a straight shooter as you will get @Fox. The last on air honest guy was forced to leave, Shepard Smith.
 
Party of "personal responsibility" building an alt-history of 1/6, the election, and the Trump presidency to avoid any responsibility?

Sounds on brand.


They have no brakes on their deathspiral into fascism.

This is headed in dark directions. God help us when they win another election.
 
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I'm remember when Tucker was on CNN and then part of MSNBC. However, it's hard to pull off his bullshit and openly lie to his viewers on those networks, then.... Tucker discovered FOX NEWS, where he found his home.
 
interchange said:
I don't think he would be serving it quite the way he does without also drinking it. Many fraudsters believe their own bullshit.
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This is a constant source of wonderment to me. What I see in others, and what they may or may not see in themselves, I see, I believe, only because I have seen that behavior in myself. For reasons also opaque to me, I also think that the eye that I turned inward on my self, my ego, was of a brutal nature, one that fundamentally came to the conclusion that all the things I held sacred, that made life real and worth living, were all lies I told myself. None of that ever led me to believe that I would actively promote lies to decieve others for my self benefit in ways that would harm them. On the other hand, the preposterous nature of conservative lies are so transparent to me that I can't really credit that anybody can truly believe them. I am left to wonder if some people are just evil beyond my level of understanding, but evil none the less.

Naturally also, there is no such thing as evil. It is only belief that it is real that makes it real in effect.

I live, therefore, in a state of uncertainty as to whether people like Murdoch are just titanic in their capacity for self delusion or basically psychopathic, interested in power and money and without moral conscience. I find it infuriating that I don't know and therefore can't pass judgment, and therefore live in the blissful state of being able to justify my hatred of them. But I do lean toward the latter. I suspect they were born or made incapable of empathy.

But in either case, I see them as dangerous to humanity and society should have some sort of mechanism to protect themselves from such egregious and obvious cases.

Unfortunately, also, for humanity in general, these folk seem to be just one end of a spectrum and find willing sympathy on their end of it. The only safety is in truth and that is what they try to turn on its ear.
 
interchange said:
I don't think he would be serving it quite the way he does without also drinking it. Many fraudsters believe their own bullshit.
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No it's much worse. He really knows better, and what's he's doing to this country and other free democracies throughout the world.
 
hal2kilo said:
No it's much worse. He really knows better, and what's he's doing to this country and other free democracies throughout the world.
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I disagree and think it's worse for him to be a true believer to boot.

Moonbeam said:
This is a constant source of wonderment to me. What I see in others, and what they may or may not see in themselves, I see, I believe, only because I have seen that behavior in myself. For reasons also opaque to me, I also think that the eye that I turned inward on my self, my ego, was of a brutal nature, one that fundamentally came to the conclusion that all the things I held sacred, that made life real and worth living, were all lies I told myself. None of that ever led me to believe that I would actively promote lies to decieve others for my self benefit in ways that would harm them. On the other hand, the preposterous nature of conservative lies are so transparent to me that I can't really credit that anybody can truly believe them. I am left to wonder if some people are just evil beyond my level of understanding, but evil none the less.

Naturally also, there is no such thing as evil. It is only belief that it is real that makes it real in effect.

I live, therefore, in a state of uncertainty as to whether people like Murdoch are just titanic in their capacity for self delusion or basically psychopathic, interested in power and money and without moral conscience. I find it infuriating that I don't know and therefore can't pass judgment, and therefore live in the blissful state of being able to justify my hatred of them. But I do lean toward the latter. I suspect they were born or made incapable of empathy.

But in either case, I see them as dangerous to humanity and society should have some sort of mechanism to protect themselves from such egregious and obvious cases.

Unfortunately, also, for humanity in general, these folk seem to be just one end of a spectrum and find willing sympathy on their end of it. The only safety is in truth and that is what they try to turn on its ear.
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As an occupational hazard, about 30% of my human interactions are with people who are frankly psychotic. Personally I don't think that that the mind of someone with schizophrenia isn't fundamentally all that different than someone without. We all have the same psychic needs.

I also think, at least to the human mind, "evil" is simply a matter of perspective.
 
interchange said:
I disagree and think it's worse for him to be a true believer to boot.



As an occupational hazard, about 30% of my human interactions are with people who are frankly psychotic. Personally I don't think that that the mind of someone with schizophrenia isn't fundamentally all that different than someone without. We all have the same psychic needs.

I also think, at least to the human mind, "evil" is simply a matter of perspective.
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I don't see people like Murdoch as schizophrenic. I see them as empathy lacking predators who see the compassion and tolerance of others as a weakness they imagine themselves to be gifted to exploit to whatever it is substitutes for being joy emptiness in such people.

I think also that evil isn't so much a matter of perspective but the result of being conditioned to have one. Truth, then, isn't a matter of perspective but exists only when no perspective does. I call that seeing, the real wokeness. It is a form of absence or perspective death. There was a beat poet many years back, Allen Ginsburg not sure of the spelling and don't want to check. He had this thing about a Buddhist prayer that used to bother me. Form is here emptiness, emptiness form which sounded to me like horse shit. That was my perspective. These days, I find myself saying it to myself because I'll be damned if form is here emptiness, emptiness form.

Learning is unlearning.

I do have a question, though. What are our psychic needs? I remember long ago desperate to try to understand why I suffered and was convinced I had some itch I couldn't put my finger on.
 
HomerJS said:
Chris Wallace is as close to a straight shooter as you will get @Fox. The last on air honest guy was forced to leave, Shepard Smith.
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Is Chris Wallace somehow related to George Wallace? The reason why I have such a hunch, is because they both have somethings in common.
 
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