Well I don't want to go SLI until this computer can't handle future games so I thought the Neopower would be better and "cleaner". I'll need the network card won't I? Because I have DSL. I thought the Panaflo didn't cool as good? I saw this one test where the Tornado cooled 5 degrees better. And I though 4 sticks of 512mb memory are a little faster than 2 sticks of 1GB memory. And I just mentioned round cables not extra ones. And I thought the XP-90c cooled better because it is all copper.
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Okay.
First off, 10/100/1000 ethernet is built onto the mobo.
No card needed d00d.
Also, 2x1024 MB RAM = much better idea than 4x512 MB. There are several reasons for this, believe us.
Here's just a couple:
-ability to run 1T vs. 2T (better performance)
-better upgrade path later on
-less weird issues that make no sense...okay, that's something i have had to deal with, not everyone
,but A64s in general tend to like 2 dimms alot better than 4 dimms.
First off, 10/100/1000 ethernet is built onto the mobo.
No card needed d00d.
Also, 2x1024 MB RAM = much better idea than 4x512 MB. There are several reasons for this, believe us.
Here's just a couple:
-ability to run 1T vs. 2T (better performance)
-better upgrade path later on
-less weird issues that make no sense...okay, that's something i have had to deal with, not everyone
,but A64s in general tend to like 2 dimms alot better than 4 dimms.SD 3700+
There's no need for the 4000+ unless you refuse to OC.
(3700+ will OC just as well as the 4000+ 90% of the time)
SLI = waste IMO, but each to their own
A DVD-ROM & CD-RW but no DVD-/+RW?
The BenQ DW1640 is your friend
What's the extra network card for?
The Neo4 already has gigabit ethernet
Otherwise your setup looks fine.
Well then couldn't a 4000+ OC even higher? And I just wanted the SLI board because of the better features not because of the SLI. I have no need to burn anything on DVDs. I didn't think about the intergrated gigabit ethernet. Thanks.
Nah, you won't need the network card, even if you have DSL. It will work fine with onboard.
You could get the NeoPower, but I prefer more amperage on the 12V line for such a setup.
Technically, two sticks are faster than four.
Of course the tornado cools better but it's also way louder.
Yes, the XP-90C cools better but it's not worth the extra cost IMO.
Round cables are overrated.
You could get the NeoPower, but I prefer more amperage on the 12V line for such a setup.
Technically, two sticks are faster than four.
Of course the tornado cools better but it's also way louder.
Yes, the XP-90C cools better but it's not worth the extra cost IMO.
Round cables are overrated.
Originally posted by: waddles
SD 3700+
There's no need for the 4000+ unless you refuse to OC.
(3700+ will OC just as well as the 4000+ 90% of the time)
SLI = waste IMO, but each to their own
A DVD-ROM & CD-RW but no DVD-/+RW?
The BenQ DW1640 is your friend
What's the extra network card for?
The Neo4 already has gigabit ethernet
Otherwise your setup looks fine.
Well then couldn't a 4000+ OC even higher? And I just wanted the SLI board because of the better features not because of the SLI. I have no need to burn anything on DVDs. I didn't think about the intergrated gigabit ethernet. Thanks.
Actually, the SLI Platinum had dual gigabit ethernet last time I checked.
There is always a possibility that the 4000+ will overclock higher, but there's the same chance for the 3700+
There are possibilities, but I will always prefer Lian Li's V-XX00 series to any other case. Looks are everything.
I don't care about looks (well to an extent). People don't need to see what I got under the hood cause I don't go to LAN Parties or have friends that know anything about computers so I don't need to show off.
Well, looking at Antec's P180, I like the theoretical efficiency of that case. I'm probably going to get one myself for my spare computer. But I will always keep Lian Li's as my main computer.
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I editted my previous post.
One thing people assume about OCing that isn't true: the higher the higher the CPU speed, the higher it should OC.
The thing is, it doesn't work that way usually.
There are always different revisions of a CPU.
For example, we have the current San Diego.
Most likely, nearly all San Diego CPUs could run @ 2.6 GHz. However, if AMD was to release them like that now, no one would buy the FX series.
So they throw out a 4000+ & a 3700+. Now both could be running at the same speed, but they have to market to the cheaper crowd, & those who want higher end...hence the different models.
Now i do a crappy job of explaining this; there are experts here who can explain this better, but hopefully i sorta got the point across.
One thing people assume about OCing that isn't true: the higher the higher the CPU speed, the higher it should OC.
The thing is, it doesn't work that way usually.
There are always different revisions of a CPU.
For example, we have the current San Diego.
Most likely, nearly all San Diego CPUs could run @ 2.6 GHz. However, if AMD was to release them like that now, no one would buy the FX series.
So they throw out a 4000+ & a 3700+. Now both could be running at the same speed, but they have to market to the cheaper crowd, & those who want higher end...hence the different models.
Now i do a crappy job of explaining this; there are experts here who can explain this better, but hopefully i sorta got the point across.
Well what about the Clawhammer shipset? Could I OC them more than I could a 4000+? Because I heard the new San Diegos and just old FX-53s.
Oh ya got all caught up in this and I forgot I don't know how to OC anything. And plus if I OC a 3700+ won't it run hotter?
Hmm I took a look at the Antec P-180 also. I like the design. Which one cools better? P-180 or PC-V1100?
ClawHammers are just... Old.. You need extreme cooling for any non-FX to near 2.6GHz.
If you OC anything and pump up the voltage, it will run hotter.
If you OC anything and pump up the voltage, it will run hotter.
Something like Vapochill would OC something good. So what do you think is better all in all the 4000+ or the 3700+? Difference in price between the 4000+ and 3800+ is almost nothing but the difference bewteen the 4000+ and 3700+ is a lot. I need to learn how to OC.
I have to agree... I have had 6 failed Maxtor drives, the same drive even failed twice after being warranty replaced. My only other drive to ever die was my 75gig IBM Deathstar
I think I might go with the P-180 and add the opptional 120mm fan and 80mm fan. What type of fans should I get? Smart cool or dual ball bearing?
Ya but how do I overclock the 3700+ to get as good as a 4000+? And won't that cause a lot of extra heat and void any warranty on the CPU?
Ya but how do I overclock the 3700+ to get as good as a 4000+? And won't that cause a lot of extra heat and void any warranty on the CPU?
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Getting the 3700+ to 4000+ speeds is a piece of cake.
Read up: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y
Likely you won't even need to touch vcore.
Set LDT to 4x.
Set RAM divider to 166 (333) unless your RAM is good for OCing (it likely will be actually).
Set HTT to 219.
Done. There's 2409 MHz.
Read up: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y
Likely you won't even need to touch vcore.
Set LDT to 4x.
Set RAM divider to 166 (333) unless your RAM is good for OCing (it likely will be actually).
Set HTT to 219.
Done. There's 2409 MHz.
And as far as the videocards go I like BFG better because they have a kickass warranty and support is in the U.S.A. which is a major plus and they are OC a little (like 40 more MHz I think) but the new eVGA card is OC 70 MHz more I think and has the same good warranty as the BFg but I don't think the support is inthe U.S.A. I know I could OC the BFG even more but would that void the warranty?
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