Two 16-Year-Old Girls Found In Army Barracks, 1 Dead

[jpeyton]

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FORT LEWIS, Wash. ?
A 16-year-old girl was found dead and another teenage girl was discovered unconscious in a barracks on this Army base south of Tacoma, the Army said Monday.

In a statement issued about 36 hours after base emergency personnel responded to a 911 call early Sunday morning, Fort Lewis spokesman Joe Piek said a Madigan Army Medical Center doctor declared one girl dead at the scene. The second teen was taken to Madigan for emergency medical care and was reported in stable condition Monday.

There were no outward signs of physical trauma on either girl, Piek told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Monday night. He said Army doctors at Madigan were performing an autopsy on the dead girl, but results might not be available for at least a week.

The Army is investigating what the girls were doing in the barracks and whether drugs or alcohol were involved, he said. The presence of the two civilian girls "in the barracks at 3:30 a.m. is likely a violation of any of the units' barracks visitation policies," he said.

Civilians entering and leaving the base are supposed to be carefully tracked.

A civilian entering the base has to show ID, Army spokesman John Norgren told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, adding, "You have to have a reason to be on the installation and you have to be sponsored" by a member of the military on base.

"It's quite a comprehensive system," Norgren said.

Piek said the Army would not be releasing the names of the girls because they were minors and civilians. The Fort Lewis Criminal Investigation Division was investigating both the circumstances and cause of death.

A Fort Lewis soldier who was "allegedly acquainted with the two girls" has been questioned, but no arrests have been made, Piek said.

The Army didn't release information about the incident until Monday because it took place during a holiday weekend and officials needed to notify the teens' families, the spokesman said.

I'm surprised I haven't heard more about this in the news. And I imagine some heads will roll over this. Unless they were visiting family, letting a pair of teen girls run around in an Army barracks late Saturday night is a major lapse of judgment. That's like throwing Bambi into the lion's den. One dead, the other rushed to the hospital...? Unfortunately details are scarce at this point because of the age of the victims.

 

[CLite]

I'm going to guess they were partying, I'm also going to guess it's hard to keep alcohol on a military base therefore it was most likely some form of grain alcohol being consumed. 16 year old girls trying to look cool in front of army dudes + grain alcohol + probably a distinct lack of responsible guy drinkers = game over.

It is pretty sad, and occurs quite a bit with freshman girls and frat houses but usually results in hospital trips not death. The really sad part is they weren't brought to a hospital immediately. In college when we had a girl at our house acting absurdly crazy we found a way to bring her to the hospital.

Of course I could be totally wrong and they were poisoned or some shit but I'm not giving that a high chance.

 

[StageLeft]

Feel bad for the family of the girls.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CLite
I'm going to guess they were partying, I'm also going to guess it's hard to keep alcohol on a military base therefore it was most likely some form of grain alcohol being consumed. 16 year old girls trying to look cool in front of army dudes + grain alcohol + probably a distinct lack of responsible guy drinkers = game over.

It is pretty sad, and occurs quite a bit with freshman girls and frat houses but usually results in hospital trips not death. The really sad part is they weren't brought to a hospital immediately. In college when we had a girl at our house acting absurdly crazy we found a way to bring her to the hospital.

Of course I could be totally wrong and they were poisoned or some shit but I'm not giving that a high chance.

Getting booze on a military base isn't very hard at all. A lot of bases allow those over 21 to have alcohol in their barracks rooms, but even if these guys weren't 21 it's still not at all difficult. If you have the right stickers and the right military ID, 95% of the time you won't get so much as a second look. As for where you keep it, the rooms aren't tossed like prison cells looking for contraband, even if you weren't 21 you could stash it pretty easily in almost any room without difficulty.

As for your description of what happened... yeah probably. A bunch of young idiots who don't know how to drink. I was 16 once too, and I did plenty of retarded things with alcohol. In a different world this could have been me.

 

[StageLeft]

In a different world this could have been me.

Or our kids, it sucks.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Unless they were visiting family, letting a pair of teen girls run around in an Army barracks late Saturday night is a major lapse of judgment. That's like throwing Bambi into the lion's den. One dead, the other rushed to the hospital...? Unfortunately details are scarce at this point because of the age of the victims.

I strongly disagree with that. Army barracks are not full of soldiers so sex starved that they are waiting to harm any teenager or girl. I think when it all comes out it will be just one or two soldiers who picked them up , probably off base, them claiming to be 18+. That doesn't make it anymore right, but most soldiers have families of their own and would not behave that way.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: CLite
I'm going to guess they were partying, I'm also going to guess it's hard to keep alcohol on a military base therefore it was most likely some form of grain alcohol being consumed. 16 year old girls trying to look cool in front of army dudes + grain alcohol + probably a distinct lack of responsible guy drinkers = game over.

It is pretty sad, and occurs quite a bit with freshman girls and frat houses but usually results in hospital trips not death. The really sad part is they weren't brought to a hospital immediately. In college when we had a girl at our house acting absurdly crazy we found a way to bring her to the hospital.

Of course I could be totally wrong and they were poisoned or some shit but I'm not giving that a high chance.

The other thing is that its now becoming more and more frequent is to find underage girls in bars trying to pick up soldiers. I live near Camp Lejeune in NC. At night the bars are full of girls that are obviously underage. I had a niece that worked the bars and she told me a lot of the girls doing that feel their life is going nowhere. So they hang out with the marines hoping one will take them away from it all. Its a quick way out for them. Unfortunately they don't get that most of the guys in the bars are not looking for a full time girl.

 

[KlokWyze]

dead from moonshine? I think that's optimistic. sure its possible, but unlikely. probably gave'em too much of a date rape drug, etc.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: KlokWyze
dead from moonshine? I think that's optimistic. sure its possible, but unlikely. probably gave'em too much of a date rape drug, etc.

Why on earth would a date rape drug overdose be more likely than alcohol poisoning? There are about 50,000 cases of alcohol poisoning each year, and about 6,000 cases of date rape drug overdoses.

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: CLite
I'm going to guess they were partying, I'm also going to guess it's hard to keep alcohol on a military base therefore it was most likely some form of grain alcohol being consumed. 16 year old girls trying to look cool in front of army dudes + grain alcohol + probably a distinct lack of responsible guy drinkers = game over.

It is pretty sad, and occurs quite a bit with freshman girls and frat houses but usually results in hospital trips not death. The really sad part is they weren't brought to a hospital immediately. In college when we had a girl at our house acting absurdly crazy we found a way to bring her to the hospital.

Of course I could be totally wrong and they were poisoned or some shit but I'm not giving that a high chance.

WTF....you never been on a military base before??

 

[jpeyton]

Alcohol is a date rape drug, when used in effective doses.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Alcohol is a date rape drug, when used in effective doses.

But that obviously isn't what he was referring to.

 

[dphantom]

When I was at tech school, some of the more, er, enterprising fellows ran a very profitable cat house out of their barracks. That is, until they got caught and sent to Leavenworth.

 

[Flammable]

Originally posted by: dphantom
When I was at tech school, some of the more, er, enterprising fellows ran a very profitable cat house out of their barracks. That is, until they got caught and sent to Leavenworth.

genius

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: dphantom
When I was at tech school, some of the more, er, enterprising fellows ran a very profitable cat house out of their barracks. That is, until they got caught and sent to Leavenworth.

Maybe someone at Ft. Lewis got rough with the merchandise?

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: dphantom
When I was at tech school, some of the more, er, enterprising fellows ran a very profitable cat house out of their barracks. That is, until they got caught and sent to Leavenworth.

Maybe someone at Ft. Lewis got rough with the merchandise?

Regardless, they better be found, charged, sent to prison for a very long time. F'king animals. Puts all of us who spent a career serving look bad.

 

[CLite]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: dphantom
When I was at tech school, some of the more, er, enterprising fellows ran a very profitable cat house out of their barracks. That is, until they got caught and sent to Leavenworth.

Maybe someone at Ft. Lewis got rough with the merchandise?

Regardless, they better be found, charged, sent to prison for a very long time. F'king animals. Puts all of us who spent a career serving look bad.

Let's put this in perspective, assuming my party assumption is accurate.

1) The girls clearly pretended to be over 18, these guys can't be dumb enough to bring 16 year olds on the base.
2) Everyone most likely was getting wasted on a hard liqour.
3) They were retarded and didn't bring the girls to medical attention, I've personally experienced this a few times in a frat in undergrad (mainly freshman coming to parties bombed out of their minds from pre-game). If someone is near death level of alcohol it's pretty fucking obvious. To just try and put them to bed is gross-negligence if you are going to partake in hard drinking.

That said I ain't trying to be an apologistic, I just think it's worthwhile mentioning this happens all over the fucking place more than people would like to think. I wouldn't call the guys animals if my assumptions are generally accurate, I will call them stupid horny teenagers/early 20's who will face the consequences of their poor decisions.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Unless they were visiting family, letting a pair of teen girls run around in an Army barracks late Saturday night is a major lapse of judgment. That's like throwing Bambi into the lion's den. One dead, the other rushed to the hospital...? Unfortunately details are scarce at this point because of the age of the victims.

I strongly disagree with that. Army barracks are not full of soldiers so sex starved that they are waiting to harm any teenager or girl. I think when it all comes out it will be just one or two soldiers who picked them up , probably off base, them claiming to be 18+. That doesn't make it anymore right, but most soldiers have families of their own and would not behave that way.

this.

 

[Zebo]

nm

 

[EagleKeeper]

Civilians have to be signed in - It is not an open base.

Track the sponsor and go from there to find out what happened.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Civilians have to be signed in - It is not an open base.

Track the sponsor and go from there to find out what happened.

You sure about that? I see nothing in the article that said they needed to be signed in. Now that I think about it I don't remember civilians being signed in at any base I was stationed on. (it could also have just been that the sign-in process was ignored) Generally a military escort was all that was necessary.

Oh, one thing though for what Modelworks wrote, while most soldiers do have families it's unlikely that the ones staying in the barracks on the base did. Not that it makes them sex crazed rapists or anything, but usually the guys staying on the base are single and somewhere between 18 and 21 themselves.

 

[TallBill]

This thread is so full of fail that I'll just let you all continue on with your ignorance.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: TallBill
This thread is so full of fail that I'll just let you all continue on with your ignorance.

How does this thread differ from others?

 

[fallout man]

Why is the Army doing the autopsy on a civilian? Does their jurisdiction trump that of the local coroner because the girl was found on base grounds?

It sounds to me like the autopsy should be turned over to the local authorities, and then referred back to MP if the local coroner finds any foul-play. Having "one of their own" determine the autopsy results stinks, and will only lead to a second autopsy and/or very critical review of the results during the totally probable civil and/or criminal legal action that will follow.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TallBill
This thread is so full of fail that I'll just let you all continue on with your ignorance.

How does this thread differ from others?

The minor difference is that a very small portion of users might actually know stuff about the Army and it's bases. But yeah, hot garbage as usual