I agree to a degree.
Jones is a near idiot. Actually he may be a complete idiot, I have never heard a word of his either spoken or written for that matter. Nobody will believe that, but that doesn't matter to me in the slightest. I just wanted to get that out of the way.
In the interest of clarity, Facebook is not a private business, it's publicly traded. YT is private but is owned by Google which is again, a publicly traded corporation. These distinctions could become important in the future. Not here, in the forums, but in the real world. To embellish a bit, if Facebook is a publicly traded company and they have denied Jones access to the medium of communication they provide for so many others could there be potential consequences for their actions? If Jones is considered to be a nutcase who's denied access is righteous, what if anything should be done with Facebook granting access to "The Flat Earth Society" page on their platform? Is it a degree of crazy thing? What other factors could be in play to deny one entity and not another?
I'm sure you're smart enough to tell that I'm making a layman's case for the potential of a lawsuit or lawsuits. And I believe there will be one eventually. It may not be Jones but it will be some entity.
These entities and several more not mentioned ceased giving Jones access within hours of each other. What do you think of that? Happenstance? Something to be concerned about, nothing to be concerned about?
So it makes total sense for you to defend this guy... "I have zero idea what he said, but by golly I'll support him blindly!" You're right, no one believes that because you've argued exact points that he's made before. So either you're too stupid to know where your talking points come from or you're full of shit. Could certainly be both as well.
In the interest of clarity, people should be made aware that you and other conservatives routinely struggle with basic understanding of the words you use.
Publicly traded does not mean the government.
Public does not necessarily mean the government. It is private entities acting on their own that are buying/owning and trading Facebook stock. Even the stock exchanges they trade on are private entities and not owned/run/controlled by the government.
Public in that instance does not mean what you're desperately trying to claim it does. If the government owned their stock and was forcing the companies to ban him, you'd have a point. But that is not the situation.
Public (again, which in this case
is, not, the, governement) pressure because of how awful and heinous the shit he's spewing and trying to incite violence is the reason why these companies are kicking him off.
Oh, and I hope you know that its been held up that inciting violence absolutely is not protected speech, even the government can clampdown on that if they think it will lead to imminent lawless action (which Jones' comments wouldn't, at least so far, but he's been trying to escalate things' considering though that their over the top ridiculous pizzagate claims led to that though, I think they could make the case if they wanted to). They're not keen to, but there are precedents for that not being protected speech. The government will probably only go after someone after the actual violence though, but then they aren't doing anything here, in spite of you insisting that the government is somehow barring Jones his 1st Amendment rights.
Uh, except you're not, at all. I'm sure your knowledge and understanding the law is every bit as ridiculously terrible as your understanding of things in general. Only there, your superpower for not understanding basic words will really get you as you can be legally liable for such simple stupidity then. You do realize there's already been tons of lawsuits trying to argue what you have, right? And they've consistently held up that private companies (yet again,
publicly traded private business is not the government) are
free to exercise their own 1st Amendment rights to choose not to spread your message. Unless you can prove that you're part of a protected group and that the companies were trying to discriminate against you based on that alone, its not going to hold up. FYI, I hope you know that Jones' posts are actually leading to another type of lawsuit being made, one where he's the defendant? You know that right? He's already facing lawsuits over him knowingly spreading lies. Its why he caved like a bitch and started pulling his claims about the Sandy Hook actors because he knew he would be legally liable for his lies then.
They did so almost in unison because they had already warned him repeatedly that they would do as they did if he kept calling for violence. And then, because he's playing to morons like you that don't understand the 1st Amendment (or half the words it contains, seemingly), he did it again. And then they did as they'd warned. This wasn't the first time they'd reacted to Jones (not sure how many times they pulled content where he called for violence in the past, which they still let him post new stuff but pointedly told him that doing it further will result in his account being suspended and potentially banned), so you acting like they all got together to ban him out of nowhere is a grossly negligent version of the situation.
You could not be more ignorant or more wrong. The most fucked up part is I can't tell if you actually are just simply that stupid, or if you're trying to play it so as to make your point seem like its valid (when you know it isn't, but you're trying to convince others to support you defending incredibly fucked up stuff on such a regular basis). You're obviously intentionally trying to spread misinformation about what actually happened with this (and so many other situations), and frankly either way you're being an idiot and intentionally malicious, so it doesn't really matter if its coming from a place of ridiculous ignorance or wholly from outright vitriol, as the result is the same.
