Twist on the P180 design - what do you think?

Diasper

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Was thinking of a different style of case design of how easy it would be to mimic BTX with an ATX setup and have great cooling.

How about having a P180 style of case but instead of having an exhaust fan at the back of the case near the top instead have that rear 120mm fan in-line with the case at the front.

Thereafter, have the board mounted upside down (and thus mean accessing the case from the right panel not the left). That way you'd have a clear wind tunnel effect over the hardrive, then the RAM, then to CPU and straight out the case.

That would remedy the typical problem of having to choose whether the focus is getting fresh air into the case or hot air out - or rather especially how to get the hot air out by whatever means (including ducting) while ensuring it still gets a good supply of fresh air.

With that setup the series of components the air would flow over would also be rather effective I'd think given your data presents a priority and a hardrive (if you have it there as opposed to the bottom of the case) won't heat up the air too much. Meanwhile the next component of RAM also wouldn't heat the air up too much but would benefit significantly from the extra airflow (far less worries and noise for those using high volts on RAM). Additionally, as RAM gets cooler that will means it'll heat the air even less. Finally, the air would pass over the CPU and straight out the motherboard. A sidewise blowing cooler such as the forthcoming Zalman 9500 or otherwise another like the Ninja would lend themselves incredibly well to this. Alternatively you could even set up a plastic duct and even possibly tube-like duct running from the front 120mm fan to the rear and over all the components at the same time. In short there'd be plenty of ducting and modding capabilities here.

In all I think that would work out to a very effective overclocking setup at low noise what with the P180s great design already - PSU at the bottom, triple layered case etc.

A further point is the 120mm fan at the top of a case like the P180 would work very well to remove whatever limited heat is left although if all the other components are isolated, it might be very condusive with a well-cooled quiet (inc passive) graphics card

edit - I just realised the Silverstone Terminin TJ06 has actually done something a bit like this but I suspect the P180 would make a better job of it at least with the PSU at the bottom etc ;) Meanwhile Lian-LI have made some sort of own attempt at an inverted motherboard solution albeit with not great cooling.
 

alexXx

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you are exactly on the ball. The btx standard is stupid and should NEVEr have been made. I really hope it doesnt take off because the engineer that designed it really did not do a good job. You would get almost the same cooling using what you are talking about.
I hate btx
 

JEDIYoda

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Actually the BTX standard is a well thought out standard if your using Intel chipsets!

There are advantages with airflow, but they are only necessary because Intel's products are so excessively hot. Thanks to AMD and their more reasonable power usage, it's unnecessary.

lolol


 

Diasper

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It's also annoying as it forces everyone to adopt a new standard so people are forced to throw out components such as PSUs because of the new shape.

They've actually been quite a few articles ripping into BTX design even for P4 at variously levels so that isn't quite true that it's a great design for P4.

Anyway, I'd like to stay on-topic if we can and give me your responses.

...Would you be interested in buying my case if I made it? :p
 

Bona Fide

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It sounds cool, and a lot of cases have been displaying the "wind tunnel" technique. Your wind tunnel would be pretty makeshift, as the air would not go directly from one end to the other. I still like it a lot though :thumbsup:
 

Diasper

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Actually I mentioned a windtunnel like duct would be a possibility - just edited my post to clarify.

But given that Antec already included a duct in their design it shows a willingness to undertake it.

I was thinking a duct like in the Silverstone TJ06 (Pic 1, Pic 2) would be possible

Looking at the TJ06 it's a nice case but shows some atrocious design in some things namely PSU positioning, the structure of the entire top half of the case being poor, with poor indirect airflow with restrictions and just plane wasted space opportunity eg the section just underneath the PSU.

Take all the best ideas and then add a bit of creativity and with relatively small redesign you could get an even bigger winner of a case I think :cool:
 

Bona Fide

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Originally posted by: Diasper
Actually I mentioned a windtunnel like duct would be a possibility - just edited my post to clarify.

But given that Antec already included a duct in their design it shows a willingness to undertake it.

I was thinking a duct like in the Silverstone TJ06 (Pic 1, Pic 2) would be possible

Looking at the TJ06 it's a nice case but shows some atrocious design in some things namely PSU positioning, the structure of the entire top half of the case being poor, with poor indirect airflow with restrictions and just plane wasted space opportunity.

If they just switched the top and bottom "compartments", it would be a beautiful setup, heat-wise.
 

ajikan

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I have a Antec P180, and I'd say.. it's really really nice.
looks very stylish, silent, and great cooling.
my system temp never goes above 36C

the VGA duct that blows air to the VGA card is really useful and a great feature.
 

Dman877

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Personally, I'd like to see a design where all of the hot components are in one chamber thats roughly a box about the size of a 120mm fan on both ends and as long as the case. You'd have the HD in front, followed by the cpu, chipset, gpu, and ram. This could be at the top or the bottom of the case and you'd just put everything hot in there, passively cooled, with a real wind tunnel (120mm fans in push/pull config) over everything. The problem with the atx design is that theres no good way to cool the gpu, imo.