[tweaktown] AMD cuts 290x by $150

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CakeMonster

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The reduced color space is only for being able to do 4K resolution for older cards not supporting HDMI 2.0. For example the 6xx and 7xx cards which only support HDMI 1.4.

The 9xx cards support HDMI 2.0 and disregarding any driver bugs will do 4K at full color depth.

The color compression that saves bandwidth allowing 9xx to perform great despite being 256bit, has NOTHING to do with the reduced color space in 4K. The compression is lossless and does NOT reduce image quality.
 
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Which suggest that indeed, Maxwell isn't a evolution of Kepler, but a revolutionary micro-arch.

AMD is going to need the same kind of leap for GCN 2 when its due in 2015 or it will be tough times ahead.
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If AMD is really moving to 20nm and HBM at the same time like the rumors suggest, then they will be just fine once they get there. A ~400mm2 20nm chip with HBM should comfortably out perform a 28nm GM200 chip, if it comes out. If Nvidia is skipping 20nm altogether like the rumors suggest, we may end up with AMD having a lead as big as Nvidia has now for as long as Nvidia will hold this lead (6+ months).

In the meantime though, these price cuts are going to really hurt AMD's bottom dollar and I don't think they'll be big enough once GTX 970 and GTX 980 catch up with demand.
 
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tviceman said:
If AMD is really moving to 20nm and HBM at the same time like the rumors suggest, then they will be just fine once they get there. A ~400mm2 20nm chip with HBM should comfortably out perform a 28nm GM200 chip, if it comes out. If Nvidia is skipping 20nm altogether like the rumors suggest, we may end up with AMD having a lead as big as Nvidia has now for as long as Nvidia will hold this lead (6+ months).

In the meantime though, these price cuts are going to really hurt AMD's bottom dollar and I don't think they'll be big enough once GTX 970 and GTX 980 catch up with demand.
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That's pretty much how I see it too.
Remember when R290/X were in short supply due to cryptomining people here noted buyer's might often grab an NV card instead?
With GTX980 and 970 out of stock AMD may use the price cuts to grab some decent market share...right now.
 
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tviceman said:
If AMD is really moving to 20nm and HBM at the same time like the rumors suggest, then they will be just fine once they get there. A ~400mm2 20nm chip with HBM should comfortably out perform a 28nm GM200 chip, if it comes out. If Nvidia is skipping 20nm altogether like the rumors suggest, we may end up with AMD having a lead as big as Nvidia has now for as long as Nvidia will hold this lead (6+ months).

In the meantime though, these price cuts are going to really hurt AMD's bottom dollar and I don't think they'll be big enough once GTX 970 and GTX 980 catch up with demand.
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You are assuming 16nm will come later than 20nm. Note: 20nm is already *here* but NV/AMD cannot use it....

NV isn't skipping 20nm to wait longer, they probably are moving their 20nm plans to 16nm and getting that moving as quickly as possible. If NV gets 16nm close to the same time AMD gets 20nm, that will be a huge win for them.

Just speculation, but we cannot assume at this time 20nm will lead 16nm by a large time margin for next-gen AMD/NV GPUs...
 
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With GTX980 and 970 out of stock AMD may use the price cuts to grab some decent market share...right now.
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Doubtful. There are some smoking deals on Newegg such as MSI Gaming 780Ti for $370 with BL:p and PNY GTX780 cards for $260-270. At those prices the $340 290X and $270 R9 290 are a really tough sell even without considering the 970.
 
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Brazil sux when it comes to import duties. Hopefully new govt will bring some changes (assuming dilma will go).

I am building a pc too. Backbreaking prices really.:p

I m in BH, MG btw
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Is just sad. Price cuts never arrive but if the dollar goes up the prices increases quickly.

I'm hopless waiting for the Benq BL3200PT appear here but I doubt this will ever happen.


OFF: I'm in Montes Claros, MG.
 
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