TV-In: The Cost Factor!

NoReMoRsE

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When I buy a new computer next year, I'll will probably want TV-in to watch TV on my computer. What's required for this? I realize I need an outlet installed near the computer by my cable provider (how much would this be, on average?), and a video-card with TV capabilities. Can anyone expand on this? Any help would be appreciated.
 

Noriaki

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You need a TV tuner.
There are many TV tuners that come in PCI flavour and you can use them with whatever video card you want.

There are also a few video cards that come with integrated TV tuners.

As a last resort you could get a video card that just has an RCA input (no tuner) and run your cable to a VCR, then an RCA from the VCR to your Video card and use the VCR as the Tuner.
 

Brian48

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All you need, if you don't want to change your video card of choice, is video capture card with a TV Tuner. These are as low as $40 (ATI TV Wonder VE) on up. Or, if you want a video card with this capability built-in, consider an ATI All-in-Wonder.
 

NoReMoRsE

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I have a few more questions:

1. Would a TV tuner support all the cable channels I currently have?

2. Would it be possible to hook up a VCR for taping purposes (basically using my computer as a regular TV)?

3. Do cable companies charge you more if you have a second outlet being used, or is the cost of an outlet a one-time payment?

4. How much is an outlet, on average, anyway?

TIA
 

MrBond

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<< I have a few more questions:

1. Would a TV tuner support all the cable channels I currently have?
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Yep, they support all the channels. May have to use a box if you use one now.

<< 2. Would it be possible to hook up a VCR for taping purposes (basically using my computer as a regular TV)? >>

Yep, run the signal to the VCR first, then pass through to the PC

<< 3. Do cable companies charge you more if you have a second outlet being used, or is the cost of an outlet a one-time payment? >>

They will charge for the installation, but that varies from company to company. I have no idea how much. There may be an additional charge if you need a cable box.

I use a WinTV-Radio, which is a stereo TV card with FM Radio tuner. I paid $55 for it on ebay, OEM.
 

Noriaki

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TV Tuner supports 125 channels, and it behaves like a normal TV, ie if you have a special cable box to get movie channels and stuff you'll still need to use that.

Yes you can use a VCR....just use the VC/TV card like you would a regular TV. Cable to the VCR, then from VCR to TV card.
Also you can use the card itself to record to video on your hard drive.

Most cable companies want you to have a 1:1 cable jack:Device ratio.
If you want to add another TV, TV-card, Cable modem, etc etc you have to call them, have them install another jack and pay more per month for it.

Alternatively you could just go to radio shack and get a -3db 1Ghz splitter and split an existing cable. Even at half strength (that's what -3db means) it should be a powerful enough signal to power both devices. But the cable companies frown on this.

 

Phatty106

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If you have a cable box, I think you'll need to hook that up to your TV card and just leave the tuner on channel '3' or whatever, and change channels with the cable box.

If you only have 1 cable box, you'll need to get another from the cable company (usually only a few bucks more a month)

You won't need to have another outlet unless you want to- you can just split the signal from the first outlet. If you do want a new outlet run, I don't know how much they'll charge you for it.

If you want to hook up a VCR to the computer, do what was already suggested. If you have a cable box, it will have to be hooked up like this: Cable Box -> VCR -> Computer. And it was suggested that if you want this hook up, you don't even need a video card with a coax in, just get one with a video in, and hook up the VCR via an RCA cable.

phatty
 

NoReMoRsE

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By cable box, do you mean boxes to unscramble pay-per-view and other such channels? If so, I don't have one. I just have a normal (brown) box on my current TV.

BTW, our TV is on the first floor while the computer is on the third floor. Would the cable provider have to run the cable through the walls to get it upstairs?
 

Phatty106

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By cable box, I mean cable box. :)
Does your cable run right from the wall to your TV? Or does it run into a box, then from the box to the TV?

If your computer is on the 3rd floor, the cable guy will have to either go through the wall (if its even possible), or else run a new line into the house and go in by a window or something. Both options probably won't be cheap :(

ph
 

NoReMoRsE

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It goes from the wall to the box, and then to the TV, because of the nature of our remote. The VCR is also connected to the box.

I looked on Rogers' (my cable provider's) site and they listed the following prices (in CAN$):

Extra Cable Outlets (monthly fee includes all additional active outlets) $6.99/month
Extra Cable Outlet(s) Installation (fee per outlet) $9.95
Outlet Relocation (relocation of an existing cable line inside the home) $35.00
Cable Installation (no technician required) $29.95
Cable Reconnection (technician required) $59.95
New Cable Connection (charged when address is being connected for the first time or after extensive renovations) $75.95

The first two would definitely apply to me, and probably the third as well (I assume this is the cost to run the cable from the 1st to the 3rd floor). Would any other costs apply?
 

ISAslot

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I'm no professional cable installer, but I did stay at a holida...
Um, okay, what I mean to say is a ran cable for the current TV's/computers in my house. Our cable is strung next to the telephone wire that comes of a pole in our front yard. The wire goes down the side of the house and into the wall near the foundation. Then the wire goes back up the inside of the wall to the attic. Then the main cable goes to the wall of my room, where it comes down into this mess. The mess is a 4 way splitter. Unfortunately, we have 5 TV devices (2 computers with ATI all in wonders, and 3 TVs), so I had to split a split line to make 5 (that?s the box to the left). Some of the stations come up a bit fuzzy, on my dad's TV, hehe, but oh well, some day we'll get an amplifier. We don't have the boxes, and our cable company doesn't charge more for more connections (only charge to install the new outlets), so I'm not sure what you should do, but I'd thought I'd share anyway.
 

Mday

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i don't have cable.
i purchased cabling myself, and with a passive splitter, wired it myself.

i have an aiw radeon.

i do plan on getting an inline amplifier.

oh, i have a cable that comes from the antennae straight to my room...

cost me around $50, US.