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TV Guide Names 'Seinfeld' Greatest Show of All Time
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Parrotheader
Diamond Member
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<< I'm afraid that's not true. "All in the Family" was much more "revolutionary" than Seinfeld. >>
I'm not talking about revolutionary in terms of subject matter (such as dealing with racism, bigotry and other subjects) which All in the Family dealt with. I'm talking about completely changing the way sitcoms were written at their very core.
Before Seinfeld, everything was plot and story driven. The characters did funny things AROUND the story to support the storyline. Sure, who the characters were had affected what the storyline would be. But the STORY was always central. After Seinfeld, everybody starting shifting gears. Seinfeld was successful with the model of having the characters (and most importantly, their daily, witty dialog) be the central focus of the show, not any set storyline. The dialog determined the course of the show. As the show evolved over the years and built up a history of characters and their personalities and relationships, it too started to lean more towards story-driven comedy instead of character-driven comedy. Unfortunately, the show and its writers weren't as good with that material which is why most people didn't enjoy the show as much during the last couple years. It drifted away from its roots.
After Seinfeld, nearly every sitcom (especially on NBC) tried to mimic the Seinfeld style with the characters just sitting around talking, bouncing their quirky witicisms off one another. Some worked for awhile, but nobody had quite the same flair for it. It looks like that trend is finally dying off some now and we're seeing more traditional story-driven sitcoms again.
<< I'm afraid that's not true. "All in the Family" was much more "revolutionary" than Seinfeld. >>
I'm not talking about revolutionary in terms of subject matter (such as dealing with racism, bigotry and other subjects) which All in the Family dealt with. I'm talking about completely changing the way sitcoms were written at their very core.
Before Seinfeld, everything was plot and story driven. The characters did funny things AROUND the story to support the storyline. Sure, who the characters were had affected what the storyline would be. But the STORY was always central. After Seinfeld, everybody starting shifting gears. Seinfeld was successful with the model of having the characters (and most importantly, their daily, witty dialog) be the central focus of the show, not any set storyline. The dialog determined the course of the show. As the show evolved over the years and built up a history of characters and their personalities and relationships, it too started to lean more towards story-driven comedy instead of character-driven comedy. Unfortunately, the show and its writers weren't as good with that material which is why most people didn't enjoy the show as much during the last couple years. It drifted away from its roots.
After Seinfeld, nearly every sitcom (especially on NBC) tried to mimic the Seinfeld style with the characters just sitting around talking, bouncing their quirky witicisms off one another. Some worked for awhile, but nobody had quite the same flair for it. It looks like that trend is finally dying off some now and we're seeing more traditional story-driven sitcoms again.
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Lifer
<< and deservedly so. >>
Great show but #1? not IMHO. I would rate it as perhaps the best sitcom however best drama would be ER, best sci fi Babylon5 best horror tales from the crypt best anthology Twilight Zone
TNG and DS9 were the BEST ever Star Trek series
lol you must be kidding, ds9 was crap. they were trapped on a space station with religious fanatic bajorans. i so hated those bajorans. only near the end did they figure out that they needed a ship. because of this even voyager was sorta better.
I'm afraid that's not true. "All in the Family" was much more "revolutionary" than Seinfeld.
perhaps in the same way that "citizen kain" was revolutionary as a film. just not enjoyable to watch.
mash was just eh, cheezy and 70's. i tried watching..but it wasn't funny and not really entertaining.
TNG- thinking man's star trek (also great)
not always. the early eps were so cheesy that it was scary. even some later eps were a bit frightening.
seinfield is the most consistently funny and rewatchable.
lol you must be kidding, ds9 was crap. they were trapped on a space station with religious fanatic bajorans. i so hated those bajorans. only near the end did they figure out that they needed a ship. because of this even voyager was sorta better.
I'm afraid that's not true. "All in the Family" was much more "revolutionary" than Seinfeld.
perhaps in the same way that "citizen kain" was revolutionary as a film. just not enjoyable to watch.
mash was just eh, cheezy and 70's. i tried watching..but it wasn't funny and not really entertaining.
TNG- thinking man's star trek (also great)
not always. the early eps were so cheesy that it was scary. even some later eps were a bit frightening.
seinfield is the most consistently funny and rewatchable.
mAdD INDIAN
Diamond Member
Contenders for the best show of all time:
Simpsons, Sienfield, Married with Children <SHOULD BE THE BEST!>, and finally..my favorite: Knight Rider
Simpsons, Sienfield, Married with Children <SHOULD BE THE BEST!>, and finally..my favorite: Knight Rider
Married with Children and Cheers were much funnier than Seinfeld...
I am still of the opinion that the people who like Seinfeld do not have funny friends. My friends (sometimes even I have a moment or two 😛) are always involved in much funnier dialogue than that rambling Seinfeld put out for so many years which so many thought of as 'comedy.'
I won't join in the 'Seinfeld is Crap' parade, but it certainly was overrated.
CK
I am still of the opinion that the people who like Seinfeld do not have funny friends. My friends (sometimes even I have a moment or two 😛) are always involved in much funnier dialogue than that rambling Seinfeld put out for so many years which so many thought of as 'comedy.'
I won't join in the 'Seinfeld is Crap' parade, but it certainly was overrated.
CK
<<I wholeheartedly agree!
I never found Seinfeld very funny. Pathetic is much closer to the mark. Why waste time watching people who are so thoroughly dislikable. Yuck! I've never voluntarily labored through a single complete episode.
Should be honored as the most overrated show of all time. >>
I kind of agree with this. Its like Seinfeld is trying to make you hate it at first glance. It took me a long time of being bored with nothing else to do before I could sit through a whole episode, and now I even enjoy it.
I never found Seinfeld very funny. Pathetic is much closer to the mark. Why waste time watching people who are so thoroughly dislikable. Yuck! I've never voluntarily labored through a single complete episode.
Should be honored as the most overrated show of all time. >>
I kind of agree with this. Its like Seinfeld is trying to make you hate it at first glance. It took me a long time of being bored with nothing else to do before I could sit through a whole episode, and now I even enjoy it.
<< Married with Children and Cheers were much funnier than Seinfeld...
I am still of the opinion that the people who like Seinfeld do not have funny friends. My friends (sometimes even I have a moment or two 😛) are always involved in much funnier dialogue than that rambling Seinfeld put out for so many years which so many thought of as 'comedy.'
I won't join in the 'Seinfeld is Crap' parade, but it certainly was overrated.
CK >>
married...with children was well written, very good show--there was more to it than met the eye. but i do have funny friends, i am funny, have a great sense of humour! admittedly, i didn't watch seinfeld when it first went on the air. i watched an episode once and didn't find it appealing. but a few years later, i watched another episode, and got into it. it is still my fave show regardless that it ended in 1999! 😉
<< Twin Peaks was way better. >>
Dude! that show was the best! I completely forgot about it 😱 The thing where they showed all the donuts with the cops sitting in front of the table killed me 😀
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