Turns out Vick is an even bigger douchebag

[marrr]

I doubt he will be allowed to play in the nfl again...

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: wankawitz


Also, nothing wrong with valuing your own Dogs over other people, especially some message board douches 😛

I certainly value my dog over a few message board douches, especially a few in this thread. If nothing else she's far smarter than many of them and for that alone she deserves more than they do.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: toekramp

Originally posted by: Turkish

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

Throwing family pets in with dogs that will kill them isn't abnormal?

Watching animals fight for entertainment is not abnormal, no.

You are a fuckin moron. I don't care if I get banned for saying this.

who the hell cares Basar. It's an animal.

You too are a fuckin moron.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Elstupido

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Elstupido
Farang, damned straight bro! I'd pay good money to see you in a ring with a half starved crocodile, just to bet on how long you'd last. Now that would be some prime entertainment.

I =/= dog. If you can equate a human with a dog I think you're the one with the problem.

I value the lives of my dogs over most people, including you.

+1

both of you that value an animal over a human have major issues.

Nope, they're family members and are valued as such.

they aren't as valuable as a human life though. sorry, but its true.

They are more valuable to society than a bunch of nerds masturbating to vivid videos half their life, and neffing on atot on the other half.

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: BALIstik916
My prediction: Michael Vick tears up the CFL then returns in 5 years as QB to the raiders or he might just skip the whole CFL thing cuz Al Davis will probably hire him

Then if the Raiders don't win every game he starts, he'll be cut after 3 starts. Or if he throws the ball to someone other than the one Davis wants the ball thrown to.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Turkish

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Elstupido

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Elstupido
Farang, damned straight bro! I'd pay good money to see you in a ring with a half starved crocodile, just to bet on how long you'd last. Now that would be some prime entertainment.

I =/= dog. If you can equate a human with a dog I think you're the one with the problem.

I value the lives of my dogs over most people, including you.

+1

both of you that value an animal over a human have major issues.

Nope, they're family members and are valued as such.

they aren't as valuable as a human life though. sorry, but its true.

They are more valuable to society than a bunch of nerds masturbating to vivid videos half their life, and neffing on atot on the other half.

no they are not. human life (no matter how useless YOU may think) >>> any animal.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: ironwing

All cultures are not ethically equal. In respect to treatment of animals, our culture is better than that of those who abuse animals for pleasure. Vick is a douchebag.

All about perspective. YOU think our culture is better than those who abuse animals for pleasure. It might be argued that our attitude toward pets is a symptom of a culture that has grown weak.

 

[ManBearPig]

i think we need harsher sentences for people who hurt helpless animals. what a fucker.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Farang
My point was that your compassion towards animals is all relative. So just because Vick doesn't stand in the same spectrum of animal loving, does not make him a douchebag.

So I brought up examples of other countries where dogs are food, or where other animals are brutalized for sport. Another way of looking at it is how Indians see the cow compared to how we see the cow. They might think you're a douchebag for killing a cow, but here is is completely acceptable and we don't give it a second thought. They are walking steaks to us.

I understand most of you are in the U.S. so we are all supposed to share some outrage, my point is step back for a minute and look at yourself from the outside and you'll see what Vick did really wasn't as outrageous as you'd like to think.

The anger and whatnot directed at me I don't really understand. I'm not killing animals. I guess free expression of ideas is not really something that is tolerated here.

All cultures are not ethically equal. In respect to treatment of animals, our culture is better than that of those who abuse animals for pleasure. Vick is a douchebag.

Ever hear of hunting? Fishing?

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: ironwing

All cultures are not ethically equal. In respect to treatment of animals, our culture is better than that of those who abuse animals for pleasure. Vick is a douchebag.

All about perspective. YOU think our culture is better than those who abuse animals for pleasure. It might be argued that our attitude toward pets is a symptom of a culture that has grown weak.

Vick didn't even have the decency to simply kill "under performing" animals quickly with a gun, they were hung, electrocuted, beaten with a shovel or smashed to the ground until their skulls were crushed. If any "culture" thinks this is entertainment then the whole lot are sick, twisted, sadistic, degenerates..

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Skeeedunt

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

Throwing family pets in with dogs that will kill them isn't abnormal?

Watching animals fight for entertainment is not abnormal, no.

Neither were many other acts in less civilized times. We're still savages at the core, but we've raised the bar of expected human behavior. Some aren't keeping up.

We haven't become more civilized. Same humans and same motives just different tools for the killing.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Ever hear of hunting? Fishing?

Show me even one case of where a hunter drowned, beat, or electrocuted deer .

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Kazaam
i think we need harsher sentences for people who hurt helpless animals. what a fucker.

And I think that we need less sentences, yet I'll be called an asshole for my opinion. I never called you an asshole for your opinion.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Kazaam
i think we need harsher sentences for people who hurt helpless animals. what a fucker.

And I think that we need less sentences, yet I'll be called an asshole for my opinion. I never called you an asshole for your opinion.

You're not an asshole, but you're a soul-less bastard who should have your testicles taken to a cheese grater and thrown into a ring of vicious dogs to finish you off.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Farang
My point was that your compassion towards animals is all relative. So just because Vick doesn't stand in the same spectrum of animal loving, does not make him a douchebag.

So I brought up examples of other countries where dogs are food, or where other animals are brutalized for sport. Another way of looking at it is how Indians see the cow compared to how we see the cow. They might think you're a douchebag for killing a cow, but here is is completely acceptable and we don't give it a second thought. They are walking steaks to us.

I understand most of you are in the U.S. so we are all supposed to share some outrage, my point is step back for a minute and look at yourself from the outside and you'll see what Vick did really wasn't as outrageous as you'd like to think.

The anger and whatnot directed at me I don't really understand. I'm not killing animals. I guess free expression of ideas is not really something that is tolerated here.

All cultures are not ethically equal. In respect to treatment of animals, our culture is better than that of those who abuse animals for pleasure. Vick is a douchebag.

Ever hear of hunting? Fishing?

There's been enough research that shows that a fish's brain isn't developed enough to feel pain like we and other animals do. They have a natural action to get away from danger, but they aren't in pain. Fishing isn't the same as what Vick did.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

There's been enough research that shows that a fish's brain isn't developed enough to feel pain like we and other animals do. They have a natural action to get away from danger, but they aren't in pain. Fishing isn't the same as what Vick did.

Plus the fact that it's a fucking animal and it's being killed for food. If you were a deer would you rather be ripped to shreds by a cougar and possibly eaten while still alive? Wait, there wouldn't even be an opinion because you're a fucking deer!

 

[Kalmah]

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

People fight and kill each other all over the world as well.. I guess that makes it ok to kill people because other people do it?

You are what's fucked up on this planet. Please don't have offspring.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Kalmah

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

People fight and kill each other all over the world as well.. I guess that makes it ok to kill people because other people do it?

You are what's fucked up on this planet. Please don't have offspring.

That isn't a valid comparison. I am talking about what is socially acceptable, murder is generally not acceptable universally. However two animals fighting for entertainment is not too far out of the mainstream of what has generally been acceptable social behavior.

Again I don't understand the personal attacks. Really childish. I personally do not hurt animals unless I am going to eat them. I shouldn't even need to say that, though.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

There are no cockfighting laws in the Philippines. Here in the United States of America where the acts took place, there are laws against this type of stuff. Fsking animals or not... he broke the law and is a douche who should never play in the NFL again.

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Elstupido
Farang, damned straight bro! I'd pay good money to see you in a ring with a half starved crocodile, just to bet on how long you'd last. Now that would be some prime entertainment.

I =/= dog. If you can equate a human with a dog I think you're the one with the problem.

Well you are an animal, and it is entertainment. If I feel you are as worthless as a dog... then what is the problem?

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Elstupido
Is a human not an animal? If not, we should be above this bullshit.....talk about problems, lolz

I'd pay to watch humans fight to the death.

As far as Vick goes, I really don't give a crap about dog fighting. It doesn't interest me nor does it disgust me.

Trying to save the dogs in a shelter afterwards pissed me off these. These are trained killing dogs. Put them down.

They are trained to fight other dogs, not people. Almost all of the Vick dogs were successfully placed in homes after time spent getting them used to a more normal environment. Vick was forced to pay the costs for the re-hab and rightly so IMO.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
This provides more ammunition for Goodell to ban his ass permanently.

Ain't gonna happen

 

[TheInternet1980]

Originally posted by: tboo

Originally posted by: toekramp

Originally posted by: Turkish

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat

Originally posted by: Farang
Just because you own one or have owned one or think they are cute doesn't mean they aren't fscking animals. Cockfighting is the national sport of the Philippines. People eat dogs in Vietnam. This isn't abnormal behavior, although I can't say I'd do it myself.

Throwing family pets in with dogs that will kill them isn't abnormal?

Watching animals fight for entertainment is not abnormal, no.

You are a fuckin moron. I don't care if I get banned for saying this.

who the hell cares Basar. It's an animal.

I care.

I lost a dog to people who fight dogs. Someone stole my gentle lab from our back yard & threw him in a ring for their fighting dogs to practice on. He was found by the side of a road with his throat torn out(along with many other injuries). Cops told us that this has been happening lately in our area & suspect a local dog fighting ring. They have been stealing local family pets to use for practice for their fighting dogs.

I loved that dog. He was a part of my family. Its obvious from your statement(& some others besides yourself) that you dont understand the love & joy a pet can bring.

Dude that's fucked up. I'm so sorry. Losing a pet to natural causes or an illness is traumatic enough. I'd want to hunt and kill the people who did that, had it happened to my pet. :|

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: TheInternet1980

Dude that's fucked up. I'm so sorry. Losing a pet to natural causes or an illness is traumatic enough. I'd want to hunt and kill the people who did that, had it happened to my pet. :|

There is a good movie where some kids kill a old mans dog and he gets revenge.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0972883/

 

[tk149]

Vick performed illegal acts, and by the standards of most cultures, immoral acts. Fighting dogs is one thing. Torturing and killing higher animals for the sake of torturing animals is another. I wouldn't mind seeing him caned.

But those of you who say he (or other AT posters) should be killed are equating killing a human with killing an animal. Do you realize that by doing so, you are devaluing human life? Are you all vegans who won't even touch eggs or fish? Do you know that just by breathing, you're killing microbes? At what point do you draw the line where a human life is worth more than another living creature?

A long time ago, I saw a flyer posted in an animal research lab. It said something like, "A child is not a monkey is not a pig is not a dog is not a rat is not a fish is not a plant. A child is worth more." I agree with that. Do you?

That being said, I'll be the hypocrite and say that if anyone tried to kill my dog, I'd shoot him in the head in a heartbeat. Pets are family.

In response to the people who don't believe our food supply is regularly tortured before being killed. Ever seen an industrial chicken farm?

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
no they are not. human life (no matter how useless YOU may think) >>> any animal.

You'd like to think so. Sadly that's not true, no matter how hard you try to make it true. The value of a human life isn't "infinite." Everyone has a value. When dividing up all the money after 9/11 for victim's families, values were attached to people, and some people were considered to have more value than others. In cost-benefit analysis, there has to be a value attached to human life. If we outlawed all vehicles, then no one would be hit by drunk drivers, etc. But, there are benefits to having the vehicles. Those benefits outweigh the value of the lives that are lost.

There are plenty of animals in the U.S. that have values exceeding the values placed on human lives in this country. And, those lives are considered more valuable than the lives of many other people around the globe. As much as you'd love for a perfect world, not everyone has the same value. And, not everyone places the exact same value on the same things. Hence, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to place a higher value on their pet than some stranger.