Turns out the 911 operator in Pittsbugh did not warn officers who showed up

[Bacstar]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Genx87
Our 911 system is in shambles. How many of these stories have we heard about them not knowing what the fuck to do or flat out arguing with people who are being killed?

Then we find out in some states there is no requirement for training? Excuse me wtf?

I know. We need to privatize 911. Only with competition and no oversite will it truly work.

I can see it now...a call center in some 3rd world country taking 911 phone calls.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: FaaR
Not trying to excuse the dispatcher's behavior, but isn't it standard police procedure to look up information in advance on a possible suspect, and if so, would not legal firearms show up in such a search?

First reaction after something bad happening these days always seem to be 'who can we find to blame this on'. Kinda sad really.

You have a point.....a very good point!!
When I was in the Military many years ago I was a MP and we were trained that the most dangerous situation was to be sent to a private residence for any reason...being dometic dispute...etc....because many times the dispatcher just had no idea what was involved be it weapons or anything else...
We were always ready to protect ourselves of course hoping that we would not have too.

I think the dispatcher is at fault for sure...but the cops could have been to lax in responding to the call....just my opinion.

3 people are dead because.....even 1 death is one to many!!

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: FaaR
Not trying to excuse the dispatcher's behavior, but isn't it standard police procedure to look up information in advance on a possible suspect, and if so, would not legal firearms show up in such a search?

First reaction after something bad happening these days always seem to be 'who can we find to blame this on'. Kinda sad really.

You have a point.....a very good point!!
When I was in the Military many years ago I was a MP and we were trained that the most dangerous situation was to be sent to a private residence for any reason...being dometic dispute...etc....because many times the dispatcher just had no idea what was involved be it weapons or anything else...
We were always ready to protect ourselves of course hoping that we would not have too.

I think the dispatcher is at fault for sure...but the cops could have been to lax in responding to the call....just my opinion.

3 people are dead because.....even 1 death is one to many!!

Would a dishonorable discharge from a military service show up when police look up a person's record?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: FaaR
Not trying to excuse the dispatcher's behavior, but isn't it standard police procedure to look up information in advance on a possible suspect, and if so, would not legal firearms show up in such a search?

First reaction after something bad happening these days always seem to be 'who can we find to blame this on'. Kinda sad really.

You have a point.....a very good point!!
When I was in the Military many years ago I was a MP and we were trained that the most dangerous situation was to be sent to a private residence for any reason...being dometic dispute...etc....because many times the dispatcher just had no idea what was involved be it weapons or anything else...
We were always ready to protect ourselves of course hoping that we would not have too.

I think the dispatcher is at fault for sure...but the cops could have been to lax in responding to the call....just my opinion.

3 people are dead because.....even 1 death is one to many!!

Would a dishonorable discharge from a military service show up when police look up a person's record?

depends on what the police are looking for....

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: FaaR
Not trying to excuse the dispatcher's behavior, but isn't it standard police procedure to look up information in advance on a possible suspect, and if so, would not legal firearms show up in such a search?

First reaction after something bad happening these days always seem to be 'who can we find to blame this on'. Kinda sad really.

You have a point.....a very good point!!
When I was in the Military many years ago I was a MP and we were trained that the most dangerous situation was to be sent to a private residence for any reason...being dometic dispute...etc....because many times the dispatcher just had no idea what was involved be it weapons or anything else...
We were always ready to protect ourselves of course hoping that we would not have too.

I think the dispatcher is at fault for sure...but the cops could have been to lax in responding to the call....just my opinion.

3 people are dead because.....even 1 death is one to many!!

Would a dishonorable discharge from a military service show up when police look up a person's record?

depends on what the police are looking for....

I was asking in reference to this incident or ones like it. Your description of domestic disputes being very dangerous is very believable. So when police are called to a house, I was wondering if they do a check of the occupants on their way. I would think they would be looking for any indication of violent tendencies. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but it seems that with all the data kept on people these days, this would be an actual acceptable use of it.

The reason I'm wondering all this is that it seems unlikely that the lives of these police revolve around one 911 op.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Genx87
Our 911 system is in shambles. How many of these stories have we heard about them not knowing what the fuck to do or flat out arguing with people who are being killed?

Then we find out in some states there is no requirement for training? Excuse me wtf?

I know. We need to privatize 911. Only with competition and no oversite will it truly work.

Just curious, did your knee split your lip on that response?

What a truely stupid response.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: mooseracing

Originally posted by: halik
How come all these people with psychological issues can get CWP and pass background checks at the gun store?

I've got an idea - how about we stop trying to grab guns from normal people, and instead focus on closing the loopholes that let nuts get firearms. Guy that was thrown out of the marines for psychological defects shouldn't be able to buy ammo, much less get a CWP.

While I would hate to have more morons running around with guns the 2nd ammnd isn't supose to discriminate, just like any Nazi, physco person can say anything he wants without being prosecuted.

I would think all 911 calls would mean weapons drawn and ready for action. If I started shooting and the attacker wasn't being phased much, I would go for a head shot or thigh shot to hit a major artery.

Another reason cops shouldn't be armed with 9's that can't penetrate shit.

What pistol cartridge should they be armed with then?

 

[Skitzer]

The Police should be prepared before going to ANY domestic issue ...... they know that things can quickly get out of hand.
I'm not saying the 911 operator isn't culpable in some way but I don't believe he/she should be crucified.
My opinion is that this guy was ready for them regardless of whether they were prepared or not ..... Policemen would still have died that day.