HeroOfPellinor
Lifer
It's funny cause in college I ended up taking several courses in Native American Studies to complete some of my elective requirements. So nobody can say I never had any interest in it before. 🙂
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Turns out I've been oppressed by the white man my whole life
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It's funny cause in college I ended up taking several courses in Native American Studies to complete some of my elective requirements. So nobody can say I never had any interest in it before. 🙂
alkemyst
No Lifer
That's it, my neighbor actually brought this up recently. His grand-father was the last to get any benefits. It's also on a sliding scale with the least percentage getting not much of anything.
He says the reason the drunk indian stereotype is out there is because the purer bloods get so much money, have land and a place to live covered that the only thing left to do is drink (and fuck he added)...
Not a bad life. Now here at least they are doing huge casinos and really making a killing.
moshquerade
No Lifer
we all have oppression in our family tree somewhere, at some point. a lot of our ancestors fled here to escape religious and/or political oppression. shame certain people can use it to get freebies when they themselves weren't oppressed AT ALL.
not directed entirely at you OP, just a general feeling I have about the situation.
not directed entirely at you OP, just a general feeling I have about the situation.
BoomerD
No Lifer
I have quite a few family members on the Sioux reservations in South Dakota, and could qualify for tribal rights if I wanted to. I'm about 3/8 Sioux and a bit of Cheyenne too. MORE than enough for my BIA registration, and some of the tribes get pretty decent checks from the BIA.
I spent part of 2 summers on the res when I was a kid. I learned a lot about the tribal heritage and history...then saw the way these people live.
I spent part of 2 summers on the res when I was a kid. I learned a lot about the tribal heritage and history...then saw the way these people live.
moshquerade
No Lifer
what's it feel like to be discriminated against? :Q
Throckmorton
Lifer
Typical immigrant asking for a handout :|
You're lucky those Native Americans even let you in to their country :|
Throckmorton
Lifer
The profit you extracted from us brown people over the past 500 years isn't enough to pay your tuition?
moshquerade
No Lifer
did *HE* take anything from you? or anyone else who came before you?
nervegrind3r
Lifer
im not asking for a handout, go FUCK YOURSELF! im stating that I have to work my ass of like most other people, and that fact that you get a serious free ride through the education system because your bloodline traces back in such a small part to dancing with wolves astonishes me. I am first generation born in the US, and I take care of shit like my parents had do, with no elses help but family, so again, go fuck yourself!
Where did you an your family come from pal? the stork bring you to america and open up shop before the indians? didnt think so... you, and your family came from somewhere else to, yes, people in your family were immigrants too, and were let in the country by someone else. again, GO FUCK YOURSELF!
now go play in the politics forum u asshole, u sound like you belong there.
legoman666
Diamond Member
son, you need to chill out.
Have a beer.
legoman666 speaks the truth, pale face nervegrind. Smoke peace pipe, consider this a smoke signal warning.
GreatWhiteFatherModerator Perknose
MisterJackson
Lifer
I've known since I was 12 that my Great Grandmother on my Dads side was full blooded Cherokee (it wasn't talked about much, that's why it took me awhile to find out).
I've never once thought of taking advantage of any "benefits" from that heritage because I, me personally, have never had anything to do with any tribe nor has my life been altered because of opression.
I think for me to claim otherwise is not fair to those who truly need it and/or were more directly affected by any discrimination or opression.
I technically qualify for affirmative action, though I look as white bread as it gets (except for getting a great tan easily and never burning in the summer time).
I've never once thought of taking advantage of any "benefits" from that heritage because I, me personally, have never had anything to do with any tribe nor has my life been altered because of opression.
I think for me to claim otherwise is not fair to those who truly need it and/or were more directly affected by any discrimination or opression.
I technically qualify for affirmative action, though I look as white bread as it gets (except for getting a great tan easily and never burning in the summer time).
BoomerD
No Lifer
If the thought of a few people of Native American heritage getting scholarships at the government's expense riles some of you, you'll REALLY love this:
http://www.indiantrust.com/
The lawsuit over monies owed to the tribes by the US Government has been going on for quite a while, and the latest number I've heard that they claim is owed is $58 BILLION!
Thursday March 20, 2008
Indian Suit Seeks $58 Billion
by Mary Clare Jalonick
Associated Press Staff Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) ? American Indian plaintiffs say the United States owes them $58 billion in a long-running lawsuit over government mismanagement of lands.
Plaintiffs in the 12-year-old lawsuit submitted the filing to federal court this week after U.S. District Judge James Robertson asked for their input.
The suit, first filed in 1996 by Blackfeet Indian Elouise Cobell, claims the government has mismanaged billions of dollars in royalties held in trust from American Indian lands dating back to 1887.
In a January decision, Robertson said Interior Department accounting for billions of dollars owed to American Indian landholders has been "unreasonably delayed" and is ultimately impossible.
At the same time, Robertson said the overall task is not hopeless, and he has set a June trial date to find a remedy for the seemingly endless legal battle. The government will have a chance to respond to the plaintiffs' filing before the trial.
In a statement, the plaintiffs said the $58 billion number represent the accumulated savings the government has earned from dollars that should have been promptly deposited into individual Indian trust accounts.
Cobell said the $58 billion number is reasonable. Earlier estimates by the plaintiffs have had the government owing $100 billion or more.
"We believe that our numbers are very conservative and represent the minimum harm that Indians have suffered under our broken trust system," she said.
The government proposed paying $7 billion partly to settle the Cobell lawsuit last year, but that was rejected by the plaintiffs.
Interior Department aides did not immediately return requests for comment.
Wanna talk about something that might affect your taxable income...
(it's about fucking time the tribes were compensated fairly. They've been robbed and cheated ever since the white man came to this country. The records have been destroyed in an attempt to hide how much has been stolen, and the theft continues today...
http://www.indiantrust.com/
The lawsuit over monies owed to the tribes by the US Government has been going on for quite a while, and the latest number I've heard that they claim is owed is $58 BILLION!
Thursday March 20, 2008
Indian Suit Seeks $58 Billion
by Mary Clare Jalonick
Associated Press Staff Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) ? American Indian plaintiffs say the United States owes them $58 billion in a long-running lawsuit over government mismanagement of lands.
Plaintiffs in the 12-year-old lawsuit submitted the filing to federal court this week after U.S. District Judge James Robertson asked for their input.
The suit, first filed in 1996 by Blackfeet Indian Elouise Cobell, claims the government has mismanaged billions of dollars in royalties held in trust from American Indian lands dating back to 1887.
In a January decision, Robertson said Interior Department accounting for billions of dollars owed to American Indian landholders has been "unreasonably delayed" and is ultimately impossible.
At the same time, Robertson said the overall task is not hopeless, and he has set a June trial date to find a remedy for the seemingly endless legal battle. The government will have a chance to respond to the plaintiffs' filing before the trial.
In a statement, the plaintiffs said the $58 billion number represent the accumulated savings the government has earned from dollars that should have been promptly deposited into individual Indian trust accounts.
Cobell said the $58 billion number is reasonable. Earlier estimates by the plaintiffs have had the government owing $100 billion or more.
"We believe that our numbers are very conservative and represent the minimum harm that Indians have suffered under our broken trust system," she said.
The government proposed paying $7 billion partly to settle the Cobell lawsuit last year, but that was rejected by the plaintiffs.
Interior Department aides did not immediately return requests for comment.
Wanna talk about something that might affect your taxable income...
(it's about fucking time the tribes were compensated fairly. They've been robbed and cheated ever since the white man came to this country. The records have been destroyed in an attempt to hide how much has been stolen, and the theft continues today...
irishScott
Lifer
All I know is I'm 2/3 Irish and I don't get shit. 😛
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