Turkey Ataturk airport attack UPDATED

[John Connor]

When will Muslims start to be more out spoken about things like this? Their own faith kills them and is used to kill. It's Ramadan so expect more of this before the end of Ramadan. The only way, and I mean the ONLY way this will ever end is when Muslims finally speak out and teach in their Mosques the social stigma that is created by those that use their faith to kill others.


Now I gotta wonder. If their was a soccer game in Paris with a team from Turkey, will the French boo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imy6bY-mt4s

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Now I gotta wonder. If their was a soccer game in Paris with a team from Turkey, will the French boo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imy6bY-mt4s

I honestly don't know how people can just casually let these swine continue to enter their country with the disrespect and hate that they spew. And then defend them.

 

[ivwshane]

I honestly don't know how people can just casually let these swine continue to enter their country with the disrespect and hate that they spew. And then defend them.

I didn't watch the video, but are we talking about right wing nuts like the bundys or trump?

 

[agent00f]

It's ISIS. There are plenty of leaders here and abroad that wanted regime change throughout the Middle East. The world is paying for that stupidity in terror attacks. One of the men responsible is currently President, and the woman who pushed him into it is likely to succeed him.

Our direct cause of such worldly problems is highly relevant as we appear determined to keep repeating the same mistakes.
You cannot protect from terror attacks unless you change course and stop causing them in the first place.

The US has to keep using its military to justify the expense. Thus we use it to kill the most politically dispensable people and cue surprise if they strike back. The military job/welfare program mostly benefits inland states.

Personally I'm all for dismantling most of it, but I suspect that won't fare well with a lot of "patriotic" americans.

 

[woolfe9998]

What a bizarre, misguided tweet. Trump is a dumbass, he says plenty of stupid crap, but to blame the cancer Islam finds itself rotted with on him is naive and idiotic. It's the narrative, people repeat it, but Trump causes terrorist attacks about as much as you or I do.

You think it's unreasonable to conclude that anti-Muslim rhetoric by western leaders causes resentment among Muslims which could increase the risk of terrorism? I don't know that Trump has specifically caused one or more terrorist attacks. It may be impossible to ever know that. But his remarks are more likely to degrade our security against terrorism than to help it. And his remarks are being used by both ISIS and Al Shahaab in their recruitment videos.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-now-being-used-terrorist-propaganda-v/

Not long after Clinton’s initial comments, Al Shabaab, the East African affiliate of the al-Qaida terrorist group, released a 51-minute video telling "Muslims of the West" that they are not welcome in countries like the United States. Ten minutes into the video, it says the United States has a history of "slavery, segregation, lynching, and Ku Klux Klan, and tomorrow, it will be a land of religious discrimination and concentration camps."

It then cuts to Trump calling for a temporary but "total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S," according to SITE Intelligence Group, which studies jihadist propaganda, as reported by the Wall Street Journal. It urges American Muslims to leave the United States and join the group.

Later, on March 24, Newsweek reported that an ISIS video released in the wake of the Brussels attack featured an audio clip from Trump.

"Brussels was one of the great cities, one of the most beautiful cities of the world 20 years ago. It was amazing, actually, and safe. And now it's a horror show. It's an absolute horror show," Trump says in the video, as ISIS lets the phrase "absolute horror show" repeatedly echo and fade.

Ah well, at least you got the part about Trump being a "dumbass" right.

 

[agent00f]

You think it's unreasonable to conclude that anti-Muslim rhetoric by western leaders causes resentment among Muslims which could increase the risk of terrorism?

This is pretty misleading because the west has had a virtual monopoly on murderous violence for a long time, which rather than rhetoric is the cause for any wish for retaliation.

Frankly, a plurality of westerners are some of the most evil & unethical (by christian standards) people to have every walked the earth, as seen in their gale to criticize anyone else for having a fraction of their ultra-murderous rage.

 

[Oric]

Update : 41 dead, 231 injured

 

[FerrelGeek]

Tell that to the estimated 20 million that died in China thanks to dear Mao. Or the ones that died in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Or the ones forced into the slavery that still goes on in Africa, the ME, and Asia. You're a fine product of our modern education system.

This is pretty misleading because the west has had a virtual monopoly on murderous violence for a long time, which rather than rhetoric is the cause for any wish for retaliation.

Frankly, a plurality of westerners are some of the most evil & unethical (by christian standards) people to have every walked the earth, as seen in their gale to criticize anyone else for having a fraction of their ultra-murderous rage.

 

[PokerGuy]

Obviously another example of how "republican hate kills!". It's all the fault of Trump, the NRA and hateful white republicans

Sad for the victims, just another example of how certain cultures simply can't blend into civilization.

 

[PokerGuy]

You think it's unreasonable to conclude that anti-Muslim rhetoric by western leaders causes resentment among Muslims which could increase the risk of terrorism? I don't know that Trump has specifically caused one or more terrorist attacks. It may be impossible to ever know that. But his remarks are more likely to degrade our security against terrorism than to help it. And his remarks are being used by both ISIS and Al Shahaab in their recruitment videos.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-now-being-used-terrorist-propaganda-v/



Ah well, at least you got the part about Trump being a "dumbass" right.

If telling the truth causes resentment and makes them blow themselves and others up at an even higher rate, then it just underscores that what he's saying is true. Keep the nuts out of our country, we have plenty of our own. Since we can't tell the bad nuts from the ok ones coming from some of those countries, we should not bring any more in. Seems very logical.

 

[agent00f]

Tell that to the estimated 20 million that died in China thanks to dear Mao. Or the ones that died in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Or the ones forced into the slavery that still goes on in Africa, the ME, and Asia. You're a fine product of our modern education system.

Comparing victims of famine to war is pretty desperate way to pump up numbers. Speaking of education, I'd suggest history class over conservative media infographics.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So sad

Unless your a Trump supporter like Speedy, then it's all LOL and a win for their side

Muslims have killed over 1200 this month. I honestly don't think they need a reason, it's just "they cultya". Everyone else is to blame, though.

Muslims just cleared Fallujah of Daesh, they killed at least that many

 

[agent00f]

Muslims just cleared Fallujah of Daesh, they killed at least that many

Here's what's so messed up about americans calling anyone else violent. In just the last decade or so the US killed a few hundred thousand in iraq/afghanistan, and has continued destabilizing the region causing the current conflicts. That's quite some blood on the hand with a finger pointing at anyone else.

Something like more than half these people call themselves christian, living the great first world life and tell themselves they're the good guys. Not really all that different to germans manning gas chambers, whining about the evil jews while praying to the same god with the same book thinking they're on the side of history.

 

[Artdeco]

Here's what's so messed up about americans calling anyone else violent. In just the last decade or so the US killed a few hundred thousand in iraq/afghanistan, and has continued destabilizing the region causing the current conflicts. That's quite some blood on the hand with a finger pointing at anyone else.

Something like more than half these people call themselves christian, living the great first world life and tell themselves they're the good guys. Not really all that different to germans manning gas chambers, whining about the evil jews while praying to the same god with the same book thinking they're on the side of history.

So you're comparing genocide to war?

You realize you're way out of line, right?

 

[ivwshane]

So you're comparing genocide to war?

You realize you're way out of line, right?

I think he's saying you should get some perspective before you claim some moral high ground.

 

[agent00f]

So you're comparing genocide to war?

You realize you're way out of line, right?

Seems it's called a war because that makes it easier to sleep with killing people who've limited capacity to fight back.

Sort of like an adult beating a child and claiming it's a good fight.

 

[Artdeco]

Seems it's called a war because that makes it easier to sleep with killing people who've limited capacity to fight back.

Sort of like an adult beating a child and claiming it's a good fight.

I regret asking... Carry on.

 

[agent00f]

Sorry that analogy was way off. It's more similar to a bunch of heavyweight pro fighters beating many children to death under false pretenses, then try to claim at least they're better than nazis.

Oh and they'll mock the kids for illiteracy and hitting back sometimes. If only their god really did carry out divine justice.

 

[sm625]

It's the narrative, people repeat it, but Trump causes terrorist attacks about as much as you or I do.

If you ever voted for a Bush, a Clinton, or an Obama, then you've got at least a drop of that blood on your hands.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Comparing victims of famine to war is pretty desperate way to pump up numbers. Speaking of education, I'd suggest history class over conservative media infographics.

Oh, the irony. I'm not saying that western civ doesn't have it's black marks, dear boy; it certainly has plenty. But you have no idea of what you're talking about wrt the items I mentioned. And I'm not even close to being desperate.

I will throw you a bone, though. Europe has a lot to answer for in how they re-drew the world map after WW1. Definitely some of the mess in the ME can be traced to the mess they created.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think he's saying you should get some perspective before you claim some moral high ground.

Trump suggests that we abandon such notions-

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-responds-istanbul-waterboarding-torture

Freedom is apparently what you have when you get to waterboard everybody else.

 

[soulcougher73]

They clearly need to ban the sale of suicide vests.

 

[Jaskalas]

Trump suggests that we abandon such notions-

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-responds-istanbul-waterboarding-torture

Freedom is apparently what you have when you get to waterboard everybody else.

I do believe he's referring to ISIS, and Bush admin was famous for it... so that seems standard Republican policy. What is NOT standard is his response to Russia's involvement. See, instead of wanting to sow chaos and regime change as American leaders (Republican AND Democrat) want to do, Trump actually values peace and stability.

You knock Trump for wanting to be brutal against ISIS, but do you knock Clinton for wanting regime change? Or have you convinced yourself that repeating the Bush legacy is a great idea?

 

[agent00f]

But you have no idea of what you're talking about wrt the items I mentioned. And I'm not even close to being desperate.

Please do explain your top choice example. Keep in mind I actually know chinese history.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I didn't watch the video, but are we talking about right wing nuts like the bundys or trump?

Anytime someone compares "right wing nuts," Republicans, or Christians to Muslims, it just reminds me how harmless they really are.