Tuesday, August 1 on C-SPAN: panel challenges the government's official story of what happened on 9/11

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Anandtech is not a government forum. It is privately owned and the owner can set any rules he likes.

Don't like it? Don't post here.

/thread

So where is there a popular forum that is ruled democratically? One more sign that this society is not democratic, and it will not become really democratic as long as people keep on accepting being undemocratically ruled like obedient sheep. Congress, media, corporations, forums,...no democracy. Only compliance with the order set by the oligarchy and enforced by its puppets.

So, did you just finish a political sociology course at Berkley?

 

[Votingisanillusion]

Originally posted by: jjones
Got to love threads like these. Just when you think OT is getting boring someone from the tinfoil crowd livens things up. :beer:

According to a zogby poll, less than 50% of the US population believes in the Bush appointed 9/11 commission. So a majority of the US population wears tinfoil hats.
It is funny how people used to try to ridicule and silence those who dared criticize official truths/lies by calling them communists. Now tinfoil is being used. That is so boring. As if the word tinfoil prevented 42% of the US population from believing the 9/11 commission was a cover-up. Maybe debating rationaly would be more effective? The tinfoil word has no magic power, sorry. Welcome back to reality.

You had better ask yourself why so many people believe the 9/11 commission was a cover-up. That commission did not publish all of its findings. The Warren commission did. The 9/11 commission only published a little report that censored so many testimonies and facts that it is by itself a cover-up. FBI whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds, who testified but was not in the published report, says so. And she concludes that all that was covered-up leads her to think that it was an inside job, that the terrorists, funded by the ISI (the Pakistani secret services; they sent 100,000$ to Atta; it was acknowledged by the FBI), were indirectly puppets of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, because the ISI is a puppet of the CIA (it was used to fund the muslims who fought the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and then to take control of Afghanistan through the Taliban, ISI puppets). The director of the ISI was meeting very powerful politicians in Washington during the week before 9/11. Do you know who? Reality is sometimes stranger than fiction.

 

[spidey07]

bwhahahahhaha...

stop using conspiracy theory nutjob sites for your information.

The overwhelmingly huge percentage majority DEFINATELY DOESN'T BELIEVE LIKE YOU.

You're the crazy nutjob tinfoil guy that the rest of society normally just ignores. But thanks to the Internet you can spew your craziness.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

I stopped sharing my 9/11 views with the children of ATOT months ago, but I'll defend others who attempt to and get trolled down just because they think differently.

Yes I believe Al Qaeda was responsible, but if you think they're the only ones who got what they wanted on 9/11, then you need to do some research my friend.

Poor BrokenVisage, he believes anything and everything he reads on the internet and expects other people to agree with him. No wonder he stopped sharing his 911 views. I would get tired of being ridiculed like that too.

But that?s not it, here are a few of his other views:

On Ken Lay's death:

"Death staged, politicians paid, Lay will spend the rest of his days in Aspen."

in this tread.
What a surprise, he believe it's a conspiracy.

On when you die:

"You lose 21 grams when you die, aside from that I don't know much about death."

in this tread.

OK, are you sure?

Anyway, Broken, your credibility IS broken.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion

Originally posted by: jjones
Got to love threads like these. Just when you think OT is getting boring someone from the tinfoil crowd livens things up. :beer:

According to a zogby poll, less than 50% of the US population believes in the Bush appointed 9/11 commission. So a majority of the US population wears tinfoil hats.
It is funny how people used to try to ridicule and silence those who dared criticize official truths/lies by calling them communists. Now tinfoil is being used. That is so boring. As if the word tinfoil prevented 42% of the US population from believing the 9/11 commission was a cover-up. Maybe debating rationaly would be more effective? The tinfoil word has no magic power, sorry. Welcome back to reality.

You had better ask yourself why so many people believe the 9/11 commission was a cover-up. That commission did not publish all of its findings. The Warren commission did. The 9/11 commission only published a little report that censored so many testimonies and facts that it is by itself a cover-up. FBI whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds, who testified but was not in the published report, says so. And she concludes that all that was covered-up leads her to think that it was an inside job, that the terrorists, funded by the ISI (the Pakistani secret services; they sent 100,000$ to Atta; it was acknowledged by the FBI), were indirectly puppets of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, because the ISI is a puppet of the CIA (it was used to fund the muslims who fought the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and then to take control of Afghanistan through the Taliban, ISI puppets). The director of the ISI was meeting very powerful politicians in Washington during the week before 9/11. Do you know who? Drugs are sometimes stronger than reality.

Gold! Keep it coming tinfoil boy! :laugh:

Oh, and I fixed that last part for you.

 

[Fingolfin269]

What an idiot. Since when do you have 'freedom of speech' on Anandtech?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
What an idiot. Since when do you have 'freedom of speech' on Anandtech?

since he doesnt understand the constitution, and the fact that he wears about 10 layers of tinfoil hat.

o wait, i forgot, hes gunna call me out now for another thread i never responded again in.

 

[Insane3D]

This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

 

[Insane3D]

As I said, I don't particularly believe any of it...but I will still read it and decide for myself.

Apparently, the concept is hard for some people to grasp...

 

[Votingisanillusion]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Mainstream? Mainstream media are still lying about the assassination of JFK!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Mainstream? Mainstream media are still lying about the assassination of JFK!

Don't forget the moon landing...that was obviously faked too.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Excellent post Insane3D, that's why you're an Elite Member on here and these two jokers disguised as Lifers with blackman avatars only spout trolling flames and one-sided comments.

Sure MIKEMIKE, they're all the same links.. especially the one this thread is about which is all of 1 week old. And Jules, you act like such an elitest asshole in these threads it makes me sick, you offer no informative points of view nor do you back up the official version of 9/11 which these links refute, since you're so adamant about 9/11 conspiracies being non-sense (I guess you already researched them all and found each one to be false) And MIKEIKE.. you're hopeless, I'm only glad I don't see you on here as much anymore at this point

Insane has the right idea, actually read/listen/watch what's being posted, discuss it, and have a nice conversation. Not out-right flame someone who you have no idea what their beliefs are, and make an ass out of yourself in the process just because you think differently. Face this Jules, the mainstream media outright refuses to pick up almost anything involving theories about 9/11, so obviously you won't see it on Faux News after work. This is the first time C-SPAN even carried a meeting like this. So please, check your flamethrower and pre-conceived notions about 9/11 at the door, because we all have high emotions over what happened that day, or STFU and GTFO.

kkthxbye.

Originally posted by: Insane3D
As I said, I don't particularly believe any of it...but I will still read it and decide for myself.

Apparently, the concept is hard for some people to grasp...

That.. or they just prefer to grasp it, crumple it up, and throw it in the waste basket without looking. And with how seriously most of the people on here take these threads I'm willing to bet on the latter for most.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Mainstream? Mainstream media are still lying about the assassination of JFK!

Don't forget the moon landing...that was obviously faked too.

QFT!!! Just ask Neil Armstrong.

 

[JulesMaximus]

nm

 

[Votingisanillusion]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Votingisanillusion

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Mainstream? Mainstream media are still lying about the assassination of JFK!

Don't forget the moon landing...that was obviously faked too.

Who cares about the moon? When five of the 19 hijackers trained at US millitary bases:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050407hijackersmilitarytraining911

When Bush ORDERED the FBI off the trail of al Qaeda hijackers and Osama
as of January 2001 under Order WF-199I:
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=195
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,589168,00.html

Khalid Shaik Mohammed is a Pakistani ISI operative, and Pakistan ultimately controls al Qaeda and was behind 9/11:
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2003/10/22/pearl/index.html

Ahmed Omar Saaed, the main funder of 9/11. He is a top Pakistani Intelligence operative, an operative for British MI6, and a protected CIA asset:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_20141.html
Omar was the one, under orders by the head of Pakistani Intelligence Mahmoud Ahmed, to wire $100,000 to Mohammed Atta.

Mamoun Darkazanli, Hamburg Cell planner, was a CIA asset:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=311

Luai Sakra, #5 guy in al Qaeda who helped plan and facilitate the attacks:
Turns out he worked for the CIA:
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=national&alt=&trh=20050815&hn=22982

Top Secret Pentagon Operation Monitoring and possibly manipulating 4 of the 19 hijackers under "Able Danger":
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167130,00.html
Republican Congressmen Curt Weldon calls Able Danger "sinister", and says it may have been used to control the hijackers:
http://khon.com/khon/display.cfm?storyID=6727&sectionID=1161

9/11 hijackers lived with well known FBI informants:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/09/attack/main521223.shtml

Head of Pakistani Intelligence funded 9/11 with other ISI officials:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1266520,00.html

This SAME ISI official MET WITH the heads of the CIA on 9/11:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy...ntentId=A36091-2002May17&notFound=true

CIA meets with Osama TWO MONTHS before 9/11:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html

CIA tells Federal informant who sits in on Pakistani ISI/al Qaeda
9/11 planning meeting in 1999 to "keep quiet"
http://www.buffalobeast.com/86/big_wedding.htm

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
F You. Douchebag.

Hehehehe! But my tinfoil protects me from your insults! tinfoil, Tinfoil, TINFOIL! Keep with the flock little sheepie! Baaah, Bahhhh!

There, now I'm at your level, welcome to being treated like you treat us. Elitest asshole.

 

[JulesMaximus]

nm

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
F You. Douchebag.

Hehehehe! But my tinfoil protects me from your insults! tinfoil, Tinfoil, TINFOIL! Keep with the flock little sheepie! Baaah, Bahhhh!

There, now I'm at your level, welcome to being treated like you treat us. Elitest asshole.

now, thats just funny.

you moronic tinfoil hat wearer.

maybe you should stop worrying about ****** and just live life?

BAHHHHHH follow the shepherds and listen to them tell you more falsities, and listen to other people who claim things they cant back up.

 

[noto12ious]

Ah Sibel Edmonds. What a babe.

9/11 = inside job. Sibel Edmonds is proof


Edit: Notice how the sheep attack the messenger but can't refute any of the links he provided. :thumbsup: to the truth. 9/11 truth has made tremendous steps in the mainstream media the last 6 months. All because of people like the OP. Keep chuggin.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
F You. Douchebag.

Hehehehe! But my tinfoil protects me from your insults! tinfoil, Tinfoil, TINFOIL! Keep with the flock little sheepie! Baaah, Bahhhh!

There, now I'm at your level, welcome to being treated like you treat us. Elitest asshole.

You call me an elitist asshole and expected what? An apology? Go fvck yourself.

No, I expect you to be civil and take this thread seriously since you're older, wiser, and been around longer then most of the kiddies here, is that too much to ask?

Edit: I guess not after seeing that second post.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Insane3D
This thread is interesting... I don't agree with the OP, nor do I think there is some vast conspiracy in regards to 9/11, but I will check out his links. Why? Because I learned long ago, if you only read information that you agree with, and anything you don't you just ignore and write off as crap without even bothering to decide for yourself, you usually end up with a very one-sided view of things. I prefer to listen and read a POV that may be much different than what I consider "normal" because I learn more that way, and tend to have more of a well rounded opinion of things because of it.

Just my .02. Feel free to carry on with the insults to the OP....whatever makes you feel happy/superior/whatever...

i have read 99% of what they post, as its always the same links.

and i still dont believe it.

Same here. I actually clicked on some of his links but saw stuff I've already seen before. Face it, if there was any truth to it don't you think it would be a little more mainstream?

Tinfoil hats for sale!! Git your tinfoil hats right here!!!

Excellent post Insane3D, that's why you're an Elite Member on here and these two jokers disguised as Lifers with blackman avatars only spout trolling flames and one-sided comments.

Sure MIKEMIKE, they're all the same links.. especially the one this thread is about which is all of 1 week old. And Jules, you act like such an elitest asshole in these threads it makes me sick, you offer no informative points of view nor do you back up the official version of 9/11 which these links refute, since you're so adamant about 9/11 conspiracies being non-sense (I guess you already researched them all and found each one to be false)

Insane has the right idea, actually read/listen/watch what's being posted, discuss it, and have a nice conversation. Not out-right flame someone who you have no idea what their beliefs are, and make an ass out of yourself in the process just because you think differently. Face this Jules, the mainstream media outright refuses to pick up almost anything involving theories about 9/11, so obviously you won't see it on Faux News after work. This is the first time C-SPAN even carried a meeting like this. So please, check your flamethrower and pre-conceived notions about 9/11 at the door, because we all have high emotions over what happened that day, or STFU and GTFO.

kkthxbye.

Originally posted by: Insane3D
As I said, I don't particularly believe any of it...but I will still read it and decide for myself.

Apparently, the concept is hard for some people to grasp...

That.. or they just prefer to grasp it, crumple it up, and throw it in the waste basket without looking. And with how seriously most of the people on here take these threads I'm willing to bet on the latter for most.

F You. Douchebag.

I would not worry to much about what Broken or his body Voting have to say. I read their posts and I checked their links and it's all nonsense. That is the reason none of the mainstreem media takes any of this shitt seriously.

 

[noto12ious]

CNN picks up 9/11 Conspiracy on 3/22/06
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/ShowbizTonight20060322.wmv

CNN followup interview with Alex Jones on 3/23/06 Video:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/...ght20060323/ShowbizTonight20060323.wmv

CNN's third straight night of 9/11 Conspiracy coverage. Primetime baby!
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/...ght20060324/ShowbizTonight20060324.wmv

 

[Votingisanillusion]

The government is caught in so many lies.
Here Cheney says he came to the emergency command bunker late:
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/11/ar911.king.cheney/

But here we have the transportation secretary saying Cheney was already in the bunker way before him, monitoring Flight 77 and giving secret orders that sound pretty suspicious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Vs7KNlpXU&search=mineta

Also, none of the white house aides believe Cheney's story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11436302/site/newsweek/page/6/

Coincidentally, Cheney moved massive coordinated war games between the Pentagon, NRO, New York City, and NORAD from october to 9/11.
And the mainstream news reports about Cheney and these war games going on on 9/11 are chilling:
http://911proof.com/9.html