tucker carlson

[woolfe9998]

I assume some of you have followed the controversy over Tucker Carlson these past couple days? First Media Matters posted an audio of him making numerous crude, misogynist remarks years ago to a radio shock jock. Carlson basically flipped everyone the bird on that, saying he said something "naughty" years and ago, and so what.

Now they've released a second tape, of racist, Islamaphobic and homophobic remarks.

This guy is a douche. Why is he getting away with this when so many others are not?

Here is a sampling of his remarks:

The new audio highlights about a dozen instances of Carlson using racist language on the “shock jock” show, which he apparently called into for about an hour per week. In 2008, Carlson lamented that “everyone’s embarrassed to be a white man,” before stating that white men deserve credit for “creating civilization and stuff.”

In another instance, Carlson is heard saying that Iraq is a “crappy place filled with a bunch of, you know, semiliterate primitive monkeys,” adding, “That’s why it wasn’t worth invading.” That follows a 2006 segment on the show in which Carlson said he had “zero sympathy” for Iraqi people and their culture because they “don’t use toilet paper or forks.”

“They’re just so awful. Just awful,” Carlson said.

A co-host on the show replies: “They’re animals, dude. They are."

In what appears to be commentary on when the United States should remove troops from Iraq, Carlson says, “The second we, I mean they, can just shut the f--- up and obey, is my view.”

“The second we leave, they’re going to be calling for us to return because they can’t govern themselves,” he adds.

In March 2006, Carlson spoke about his desire for a presidential candidate to blame the “lunatic Muslims who are behaving like animals.” That candidate would be “elected king” if they vowed to “kill as many of them as [they] can,” Carlson added.

Carlson also spoke crassly of immigrants and questioned Barack Obama’s identity as a black man.

"How is he black, for one thing? He has one white parent, one black parent,” he said in 2006. Two years later, he added, “I don’t know how black he is, but I’m sure he’s a good basketball player — he says he is, anyway.”

In a separate posting, Media Matters published a conversation between Bubba the Love Sponge and Carlson from 2006, in which both use homophobic slurs. The host tells Carlson: “I like you. I mean, I’m not trying to f-- out on you or nothing, but I like you. I like you.”

“Well I like you too, and I mean that,” Carlson replies. “You always say, ‘I mean that in a non-f-- way,’ but I actually mean it in a completely f----t way."

Bubba the Love Sponge and a co-host each reply: “I wish I knew how to quit you, Tuck,” apparently referencing the 2005 drama “Brokeback Mountain.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...-set-of-recordings/ar-BBUEAsU?ocid=spartanntp

 

[Thebobo]

lol going to have to watch him as painful as it is and see if he says anything to say about it.

 

[mect]

I'd say its a little early to say that he's getting away with it. I'd say give it some time. Its going to depend on the advertisers. I doubt the demographic he appeals to is going to care about something so trite as sexism, racism, or Islamophobia, but the advertisers might.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Bubba.....haha

Seems BTLS is the source of all scandals

 

[soulcougher73]

Because his "side" doesnt care about those kinds of remarks. In fact i bet most of his "side" think the same thing behind closed doors.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Meanwhile Fox News is in an advertiser enticement blitz with a big event tomorrow. This and Pirro’s comments couldn’t come at a better time.

 

[Moonbeam]

I have always found him to be a supercilious snickering piece of scum quite proud to be a dick head who believes he's better than anybody else. With propaganda machines like Fox News there is money to be made for people who have no personal integrity and feel no shame.

I guess the crap he used to say was before he got the holier than Thou gig. The contrast is refreshing.

 

[soundforbjt]

His remarks about SC Justice Kagan won't gain him any points with women either.
Don Jr. defended Tucker on the tapes, big surprise there.

 

[interchange]

Honestly I've heard many regular people say things just like that. Not necessarily politically active people, either. And not sociopathic monsters who would act in racist, xenophobic, or homophobic ways when actually interacting with people who might be the target of their beliefs.

Not that I'm excusing Tucker. He's actively capitalizing on the tendency of regular people to demonize groups they don't identify with for their psychic benefit. Legitimizing the rhetoric is clearly bad.

 

[Greenman]

Never watched the guys show, and it turns out I haven't missed anything.

 

[Burpo]

Tonight he was on a roll. Conspiracy against FOX.. What a joke.

 

[Fenixgoon]

waiting for the alex jones "i'm playing a personality" defense.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'd say its a little early to say that he's getting away with it. I'd say give it some time. Its going to depend on the advertisers. I doubt the demographic he appeals to is going to care about something so trite as sexism, racism, or Islamophobia, but the advertisers might.

Hannity has gone through a huge loss of advertisers for his Seth Rich bullshit and other BS. Yet he's still around. My bet is nothing happens to Carlson here even if he loses a bunch of advertisers because Fox knows they can get other advertisers and in any event, eventually it will blow over after enough time goes by.

Dunno, maybe it will be different since these are new comments and IMO they are quite a bit worse than the first set they released a few days back.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Honestly I've heard many regular people say things just like that. Not necessarily politically active people, either. And not sociopathic monsters who would act in racist, xenophobic, or homophobic ways when actually interacting with people who might be the target of their beliefs.

Not that I'm excusing Tucker. He's actively capitalizing on the tendency of regular people to demonize groups they don't identify with for their psychic benefit. Legitimizing the rhetoric is clearly bad.

Er, not sure why you're acting like that's somehow worse. This is someone that seems to play a role in actual government policy (either by dissemenating what conservative politicians want him to say, or being a propagandist trying to change public opinion on matters; granted he's not at...what's his face that Turmp legit gets policy ideas from, but he still plays a role, and that's why this is far more troubling than regular people that aren't involved in politics spouting it). That's because they're massively ignorant (because they legit think most people think like they do and often don't realize how diverse the people they regularly interact with are).

Ok, so you do get it, so I don't really even know what your point is. For instance, obviously without the white supremacists, dogwhistling white supremacist stuff wouldn't be as problematic, but that these assholes are trying to instill that hate and mentality into official government policy is what the problem is. I mean, anti-Semitism was rampant in Europe before Hitler, but it wasn't until he gained power and made it actual policy to turn that hate into Holocaust, that the evil that such hatred is capable of is realized.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Well we have a solid contender for a cabinet position with the trump dumpster fire administration

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Never watched the guys show, and it turns out I haven't missed anything.

This. I honestly think any news station that wants to say they are unbias and that they are reputable media company should axe any of these fucking stupid political pundit shows.

Leave that shit to the comedic-satire folks that are actually GOOD (Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Bill Maher) - Carlson and other shit isn't funny, nor is it informative or unbias

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Apparently Hannity just said Tucker is going on vacation...

 

[1sikbITCH]

Never watched the guys show, and it turns out I haven't missed anything.

Well you have missed the nightly gas-lighting of the GOP base. If you want to act informed, you should be informed. Watch Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Judge Jeanine dumbass who just declared Islam is unconstitutional, and Laura I'm a fucking racist Ingraham who recently decreed that non-whites are polluting America for the rest of us.
You are far too high on your horse and critical of liberals on this forum much of the time to not even know what the hell you are talking about. Lock up your firearms and watch Fox News for a week or two. It's a freak show.

 

[nickqt]

Well you have missed the nightly gas-lighting of the GOP base. If you want to act informed, you should be informed. Watch Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Judge Jeanine dumbass who just declared Islam is unconstitutional, and Laura I'm a fucking racist Ingraham who recently decreed that non-whites are polluting America for the rest of us.
You are far too high on your horse and critical of liberals on this forum much of the time to not even know what the hell you are talking about. Lock up your firearms and watch Fox News for a week or two. It's a freak show.

I believe the canned response to this, if, of course, BothSidesDoIt™

 

[Greenman]

Well you have missed the nightly gas-lighting of the GOP base. If you want to act informed, you should be informed. Watch Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Judge Jeanine dumbass who just declared Islam is unconstitutional, and Laura I'm a fucking racist Ingraham who recently decreed that non-whites are polluting America for the rest of us.
You are far too high on your horse and critical of liberals on this forum much of the time to not even know what the hell you are talking about. Lock up your firearms and watch Fox News for a week or two. It's a freak show.

You go ahead and watch, I have a good book to read.

 

[Moonbeam]

Honestly I've heard many regular people say things just like that. Not necessarily politically active people, either. And not sociopathic monsters who would act in racist, xenophobic, or homophobic ways when actually interacting with people who might be the target of their beliefs.

Not that I'm excusing Tucker. He's actively capitalizing on the tendency of regular people to demonize groups they don't identify with for their psychic benefit. Legitimizing the rhetoric is clearly bad.

I see you got some blowback for this. What I focused on was your first word, “Honestly”. I took your post as if it were directed to me, that my expression of contempt for Carlson was extreme, excessively extreme, something I felt myself. I appreciate your moderating expression of honesty, myself, and am tempted to plea similarly. I hope I’m not quite the monster I sound to be.

You probably know as well or better than I do that any offer of honesty that is in fact honest is going to cause trouble.

 

[fskimospy]

Hannity has gone through a huge loss of advertisers for his Seth Rich bullshit and other BS. Yet he's still around. My bet is nothing happens to Carlson here even if he loses a bunch of advertisers because Fox knows they can get other advertisers and in any event, eventually it will blow over after enough time goes by.

Dunno, maybe it will be different since these are new comments and IMO they are quite a bit worse than the first set they released a few days back.

He’s trying out the new playbook that Trump pioneered: brazen it out and wait for tribalism to reassert itself.

 

[zinfamous]

This. I honestly think any news station that wants to say they are unbias and that they are reputable media company should axe any of these fucking stupid political pundit shows.

Leave that shit to the comedic-satire folks that are actually GOOD (Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Bill Maher) - Carlson and other shit isn't funny, nor is it informative or unbias

right, but that's why Fox News doesn't actually hold a news broadcasting license--they are licensed as an entertainment network. So, they're way ahead of you, my man.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

right, but that's why Fox News doesn't actually hold a news broadcasting license--they are licensed as an entertainment network. So, they're way ahead of you, my man.

Door swings both ways for MSNBC / CNN pundit junk. All the same in my book.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Honestly I've heard many regular people say things just like that. Not necessarily politically active people, either. And not sociopathic monsters who would act in racist, xenophobic, or homophobic ways when actually interacting with people who might be the target of their beliefs.

Not that I'm excusing Tucker. He's actively capitalizing on the tendency of regular people to demonize groups they don't identify with for their psychic benefit. Legitimizing the rhetoric is clearly bad.

Tucker has the moral equivalent of an underactive thyroid. Take him from FOX and put him on MSNBC and he's instantly a flaming liberal socialist. All it requires is money. It's a job and he will fit whatever role given. He is a mask with nothing behind it. That last, the "nothingness" is a great problem.