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Tualatin wh00ps some mayor ass

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he is right.. the palomino would beat it, but you have to say.. this is a nice step for the P3.. and it keeps it around longer.. and for alot of people that is GOOD.. that way we dont need a whole new MOBO/CPU combo..
 
bjc: hopefully that's true.. but everthing said so far is that Tualatin needs a whole need MB. There are rumors that it works on BX, but so far they're no more than that.
 
Insane wrote:

"Just read Tom's early look on Tualatin. Man this is one hot CPU. Where as P4 is lacking (beating AMD in Sandra) Tualatin wh00ps their ass. Check this:"

Huh? Did I miss something? I see a CPU clocked almost 100MHz faster, with a faster FSB still losing to an Athlon at stock 1333 on a 133 FSB, in the cherished Quake 3 Arena, of all areas. Again, did I miss something?

"Sandra CPU performance

AMD Tbird 1.33 1822/3747
Tualatin@1419 1905/3988

Sandra MUltimedia performance

AMD Tbird 1.33 9082/7469
Tualatin@1419 9595/7729"

Evidently you missed (or conveniently didn't include) the sentence Tom adds "...remember that these numbers did NOT reflect in our benchmarks, however..." What a surprise. The Tualatin tested has a clockspeed and bus speed advantage, yet loses to the Athlon at stock clock/bus speed. I'm not impressed.

"Yeah for sure it's a damn fast CPU and i wonder how well the new Northwood will be. If it's the same performance boost as P3 the P4 will whipe the floor with the competition. All the heavy investments of intel is starting to pay off after all. Long life Intel (i own a AMD which is suck)"

ROFLMAO. It's still Pentium III, no matter what name they give it. Tualatin, Coppermine-T, whatever. It's Pentium III at higher clock speeds. Which means it still loses to Athlon. Their heavy investment has payed off (apparently) in only one area: an ageing architecture outperforms their "state of the art" processor. I'm guessing we won't see these CPUs on the market for a while. Probably not until after Northwood ships.


 
he is right.. the palomino would beat it, but you have to say.. this is a nice step for the P3.. and it keeps it around longer.. and for alot of people that is GOOD.. that way we dont need a whole new MOBO/CPU combo..

According to Tom's, you *WILL* need a new mobo for that cpu.
 
"I'm guessing we won't see these CPUs on the market for a while. Probably not until after Northwood ships."

With your track record of "guesses", you probably ought not gamble too often.
 
I never thought I'd say this, but this core looks to be a sweet upgrade if you can get it running on your existing board..

however, if you need a new mobo, I suggest you avoid it like the plague, and go with something that'll last longer (an Athlon or P4, of course we have to wait for the newer P4 first) upgrade wise..

as for those talking about the overclocked P3, perhaps you should remember that the Athlon is running a double pumped bus, which means it has more bandwidth available to it. the Athlon should be able to stomp all over the P3, yet doesn't. why? cause AMD wants more money (they like to milk the market). The Athlon has been disabled from the beginning. only when the final version (Barton if I'm not mistaken) comes out will we see what the engineers truly had in mind. this will probably hold true to the P4, and appears to have held true for the P3 (though the P3 IMHO is pretty much the maxed out P6 core).
 
If anyone hasnt picked up, insane is just this little troll that will praise Intel and bashes AMD whenever he gets a chance. The numbers show that the Tualatins are far form dominating the Tbirds and yet insane sees it as whooping ass, confused 😕.
 
Wingznut Pez wrote:

"With your track record of "guesses", you probably ought not gamble too
often."

Yeah, but it's an addiction. 😀


 
Intel stated it required a new chipset to support the Tualatin. Something about some of the pins are different and therefore can not be supported by current socket 370 MB.

I fail to find this terribly impressive myself. it's got almost a 100MHz clockspeed advantage on the T-Bird, it has the FSB overclocked to 166MHz which probably helps an awful lot, and it still get's beaten by the T-Bird in almost all of the benchmarks.

Not to mention I don't think it will ramp much beyond 1.6GHz approximately, something that the T-Bird core is managing in overclocked situations at .18u, it will clock MUCH higher then the Tualatin once it goes to the .13u process.


Besides that I'm personally doubting the many rumours that the released Tualatin's will run on the BX chipset. Everything I've heard indicates the different pin-outs to be the reason for it's incompatibility with current chipsets.

As for everyone screaming about the amazing SiSoft Sandra scores... well, besides it's memory benchmark Sandra scores typically are more then a little unreliable.


If it does indeed work with the BX chipset then it will be a FANTASTIC processor for upgraders, but little beyond that.

On the topic of a prospective 512KB L2 Tualatin, everything I've heard indicates the Tualatin w/512K L2 cache is for mobiles only.
 
Mayor Problem?
No mayor problem here. In fact he lives across the raod and is doing quite well.

As far as Tualatin and AMD is concerned, the scores look almost identical. Just go with whatevers cheaper and be happy.
 
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There I got it out of my system 😛
 
Intel did good. They should be commended. Heh, it does make the P4 even less necessary IMHO though. PIII is still a good chip!

 
Buahahaha (laughing tears and pointing with the finger at Intel)...buying a new PIII Motherboard for that ridiculous speed increase...? Buahahaha...
(slowly walking away, continuing to wait for Northwood...) 😀
 


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Those are pretty impresive. Considering the mobo is prerelease. It was at the same clockspeed and same bus-spead and looks like the tualitin took the cake. Nice to see intel still has something up thier sleeve 😉
 
. Man i am so happy intel is Finally back in biz with same great product coming. The Athlon4 isn't that muchg faster then the Athlon come on AMD fans your pretty quite right

<confused look> That's news to me .... When did Intel go out of business??????? </confused look>
 
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