Tualatin Celeron & BX vs. P3-1Ghz & 815

[lepton]

Maybe someone can help me. I can upgrade an Asus cusl2 (815e) to P3-1000. Or an Abit bx6-II to Celeron 1200.
I know that on the same M.B the Celeron will be quicker. But in my case the BX is UDMA-33 and AGP*2. And the 815e is UDMA-66 and AGP*4. So what's the best?

P.S.

P3-1000 is vanishing as we speak....

 

[Hulk]

Unless you are using that new Powerleap adapter especially configured for Tualatin processors, you CANNOT use a Celeron 1200 on a bx6. The Celeron 1200 is a Tualatin core.
Now your decision is easy!

 

[Colt45]

you could put a celeron 1.1 on your cusl2

 

[MrMaster]

Gotta agree. I bought a Celeron 1 gig Tualatin and a Slocket III(thought it was III) adapter for my bx motherboard.

No go. So I am going to dish out the $50 for an ECS P6S5AT motherboard instead. I want to still use my pc100 memory.

 

[boyRacer]

BX memory bandwidth will always be a little better than the 815 when clocked to 133... so i say you get the Powerleap... $160 i believe for the CPU and slot?... not sure. AGP 4x doesnt give a night and day difference against AGP 2x.

 

[bacillus]

<< I can upgrade an Asus cusl2 (815e) to P3-1000 >>


if you can get hold of a 100fsb p3 1GHz cpu then hopefully you'll be able to o/clock it to 124 or even 133fsb.

 

[lepton]

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I can by Celeron 1200 with the Powerleap converter.
The Celeron is faster than the P3. But the BX has AGP*2 compare to AGP*4 and UDMA*33 compare to UDMA*66. So what?s the best?

 

[oldfart]

Remember, C1.2 on a BX is 100 FSB. PIIIEB on a CUSL2 is 133 FSB. Bus speed also comes into play for overall performance. I'm not a big fan of the Powerleap setups. Some people get them to work, some don't. Support is supposed to be pretty bad as well. You could buy a decent 815E mobo, a C1.0A and easily overclock it to 133+ FSB, 1.33+ GHz for the cost of a Powerleap setup. If you sel the old mobo, it will cost you less in the end for a better setup.

 

[lepton]

If you'll look at: http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/celeron-1200/
you'll see that the Celeron is stronger (with the same rig). the question is how it is when comparing Celeron + BX vs P3 + 815e.
You can see in the link that old Celeron 1000 overclocked to 1330Mhz won't win the new one at 1200Mhz

 

[oldfart]

That xbit test was an unlocked CPU. So yes, a Tualatin Celeron @ same CPU and same bus speed is faster than a Coppermine, but that is not what you are doing. The Celeron 1.0A I was talking about is the new Tualatin version, not the Coppermine.

 

[lepton]

Sorry oldfart, I don?t understand you, you?re saying there is a Tualatin 1000 Celeron (never saw one) that I can put on my 815 without a converter and overclock it to 1333?

 

[oldfart]

<< Sorry oldfart, I don?t understand you, you?re saying there is a Tualatin 1000 Celeron (never saw one) that I can put on my 815 without a converter and overclock it to 1333? >>


Yes, there is a Tualatin Celeron 1000. Tualatin Celerons come in 1.0A, 1.1A, 1.2 and 1.3 versions. The 1.0A version will easily go to 133 FSB, 1.33 GHz. Its $73 box retail @ Newegg.com. . As you know, they wont work in a CUSL2 though. You need a Tually capable mobo. My point about the Powerleap is they get ~ $70 for the slot1 adapter. You can get a proper 815E mobo for ~ $20 -$ 30 more. Sell the extra mobo and it wont cost you any extra. I just dont see a good reason to use one. The C1.0A @ 1.33 GHz will be faster than either of the other setups you are considering.

 

[lepton]

Thank you oldfart, you made me think it all over again.