TSA to allow knives on planes

[CPA]

The conspiracy nut in me (and it's a very small part) suspiciously believes this is a move to appease a certain religion. Not that I care much, since I have no issue with them removing the ban.

I'll just leave this here (from Wikipedia):

United States of America

There have been several court cases in the US regarding the legality of wearing a kirpan in public. Courts in New York and Ohio have ruled that banning the wearing of a kirpan is unconstitutional.[15] In New York City, a compromise was reached with the Board of Education whereby the wearing of the knives was allowed so long as they were secured within the sheaths with adhesives and made impossible to draw. In recent years, the Sikh practice of wearing a Kirpan has caused problems for security personnel at airports and other checkpoints; security personnel may confiscate kirpans if they feel it is necessary, but are advised to treat them with respect.[16] Sikh leaders chose not to attend an 17 April 2008 interfaith meeting with Pope Benedict XVI at the Pope John Paul II Cultural Center in Washington, DC rather than remove the kirpan.[17]

 

[edro]

My new religion allows me to carry a Colt .45 at all times.

The Sikh kirpan ordeal is absolute crap.
Who cares how old or prevalent your religion is. If it endangers lives, too bad.

 

[lxskllr]

The conspiracy nut in me (and it's a very small part) suspiciously believes this is a move to appease a certain religion. Not that I care much, since I have no issue with them removing the ban.

I'll just leave this here (from Wikipedia):

Fixed blade knives are still verboten. The TSA are just a bunch of morons. Trying to make sense of their nonsense is futile.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Every time I fly, I have to get my hands swiped for traces of explosive chemicals.

Why? I bring along my cat.

 

[Howard]

Fixed blade knives are still verboten. The TSA are just a bunch of morons. Trying to make sense of their nonsense is futile.

From what I can tell, fixed blade knives are the only knives that will pass.

 

[lxskllr]

Every time I fly, I have to get my hands swiped for traces of explosive chemicals.

Why? I bring along my cat.

Careful, it's weaponized

 

[Mermaidman]

Wait.....didn't the hijackers take over with box cutters? Which are smaller than 2.36" .....I'm confused... TSA is retarded.

The reason for allowing baby knives now is that cockpits are secured by a reinforced door nowadays, so a hijacker cannot gain access to pilots. However, it is apparently acceptable to kill flight attendants and passengers. :whiste:

 

[lxskllr]

From what I can tell, fixed blade knives are the only knives that will pass.

Not Permitted symbol Knives with locking or fixed blades
Not Permitted symbol Knives with molded grips
Not Permitted symbol Razors and box cutters

http://www.tsa.gov/pil-sharpobjects

 

[shortylickens]

Careful, it's weaponized

Dangerous to go alone?
Take this?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I don't own a spyderco.

You should they're awesome.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Careful, it's weaponized

So adorable!

 

[Rakehellion]

Box cutters, however... Wait, what's your point exactly?

Box cutters aren't allowed either. And box cutters can't steer a plane.

 

[shortylickens]

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Drago.../dp/B00507AJ40

Never rusts.

 

[TheSlamma]

So can I stop getting pulled out of line for SCUBA gear then? it's just a regulator, chill.

 

[MotionMan]

They should arm everyone with a knife as they get on the plane.

As long as no one gets a gun or bomb onboard, the passenger to hijacker/terrorist ratio should be sufficient to keep everyone in line.

MotionMan

 

[phucheneh]

I'm confused...what counts as an 'allowed' knife? It sounds like the TSA got paid off by Victorinox, 'cause Swiss Army knives are all I can think of with tiny, non-locking blades and non-ergonomic handles (not sure what the hell else 'molded grip' would specifically refer to).

 

[mnewsham]

I'm confused...what counts as an 'allowed' knife? It sounds like the TSA got paid off by Victorinox, 'cause Swiss Army knives are all I can think of with tiny, non-locking blades and non-ergonomic handles (not sure what the hell else 'molded grip' would specifically refer to).

A molded grip is anything that has a contour to allow easier handling of the weapon, any sort of orthopedic aid I would assume.

 

[Triumph]

Not reading the thread, but came in to say: As time goes on and terrorist attacks just haven't happened, it makes sense to reduce security, not increase it (as the government would like to have happen). So this is a step in the right direction.

 

[lxskllr]

The fearful, and oppressive are petitioning the White House to rescind the new regulations. I just heard it on the radio, but haven't found a text article yet. My bet is the regulations won't go into effect, because once something is placed to control the population, it doesn't go back to the side of freedom until all in the current regime are dead; IOW decades(maybe).

 

[randomrogue]

I got stopped in London because I was carrying blocks with me in my carry on. Apparently toy blocks can be used as a bludgeoning device and are forbidden.

 

[randomrogue]

I've also been stopped and had my fork confiscated.

 

[edro]

http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Drago.../dp/B00507AJ40

Never rusts.

Point being? It has a locking blade.

 

[DougK62]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/22/17866879-tsa-delays-knives-rule?lite

Apparently the new rule is being delayed. My guess is that it will never be implemented. I had JUST bought a new Swiss Army knife the other day specifically so I could take it on planes. I swear, most people are afraid of their own shadows.

 

[MotionMan]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/22/17866879-tsa-delays-knives-rule?lite

Apparently the new rule is being delayed. My guess is that it will never be implemented. I had JUST bought a new Swiss Army knife the other day specifically so I could take it on planes. I swear, most people are afraid of their own shadows.

What a joke. Like I said above, just arm everyone on the plane.

Even short of that, does anyone really believe their will be another successful hijacking (at least in the US) in the next 100 years? Passengers will not want to be the next missile and will not simply sit idly by assuming that, if they are quiet, everything will be fine. Those days are over.

The security theatre is such a waste of time. Stop the guns and bombs. Everything else cannot be used to hijack anymore.

MotionMan

 

[Farang]

It's funny how paranoid we are about airplanes (and justified, I suppose). But if the Boston attack taught us anything--and the 10 years without an attack preceding it--it might be that we do a pretty good job of keeping the bad guys out.

Here in Southeast Asia, I don't think about what I carry on a plane. I don't even empty my pockets going through security. The buzzer always goes off when I walk through the detector, and the times they do check me (not always) it's a weak slap around my pockets where they trust what I tell is in them ('that's my lighter, that's my wallet').

The other day I got to the boarding gate realizing I had been showing everyone a ticket for the wrong flight. They look at hundreds (thousands?) a day and are paid like a 7/11 clerk so I doubt they actually check what they are staring at.

The low occurrence of airplane incidence worldwide should tell us something. While 9/11 was eye-opening, it seems like the biggest things we have to worry about are securing the pilots and keeping bombs off the plane. Anything else is minor in the grand scheme