TSA Agents Thwart Possible Terrorist.

DCal430

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WICHITA, Kan. -- The grandmother of a 4-year-old girl who became hysterical during a security screening at a Kansas airport said Wednesday that the child was forced to undergo a pat-down after hugging her, with security agents yelling and calling the crying girl an uncooperative suspect.

The incident has been garnering increasing media and online attention since the child's mother, Michelle Brademeyer of Montana, detailed the ordeal in a public Facebook post last week. The Transportation Security Administration is defending its agents, despite new procedures aimed at reducing pat-downs of children.

The child's grandmother, Lori Croft, told The Associated Press that Brademeyer and her daughter, Isabella, initially passed through security at the Wichita airport without incident. The girl then ran over to briefly hug Croft, who was awaiting a pat-down after tripping the alarm, and that's when TSA agents insisted the girl undergo a physical pat-down.
Isabella had just learned about "stranger danger" at school, her grandmother said, adding that the girl was afraid and unsure about what was going on.

"She started to cry, saying 'No I don't want to,' and when we tried talking to her she ran," Croft said. "They yelled, 'We are going to shut down the airport if you don't grab her.'"

But she said the family's main concern was the lack of understanding from TSA agents that they were dealing with a 4-year-old child, not a terror suspect.

"There was no common sense and there was no compassion," Croft said. "That was our biggest fault with the whole thing - not that they are following security procedures, because I understand that they have to do that."

Brademeyer, of Missoula, Mont., wrote a public Facebook post last week about the April 15 incident, claiming TSA treated her daughter "no better than if she had been a terrorist." The posting was taken down Wednesday. Another post said the family had filed formal complaints with the TSA and the airport.

The TSA released a statement Tuesday saying it explained to the family why additional security procedures were necessary and that agents didn't suspect or suggest the child was carrying a firearm.

"TSA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper screening procedures in conducting a modified pat-down on the child," the agency said.

The statement noted that the agency recently implemented modified screening procedures for children age 12 and younger to further reduce the need for pat-downs of children, such as multiple passes through a metal detector and advanced imaging technology.

"These changes in protocol will ultimately reduce - though not eliminate - pat-downs of children," the statement said. "In this case, however, the child had completed screening but had contact with another member of her family who had not completed the screening process."

U.S. Sen. Jon Tester, a Montana Democrat, pressed the TSA for more information Wednesday. Tester, a member of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said he was concerned the TSA went too far.
"I am a staunch advocate for effective transportation security, but I'm also a strong advocate for common sense and the freedoms we enjoy as Americans," Tester wrote to TSA Administrator John Pistole. "Any report of abuse of the power entrusted to officers of the TSA is especially concerning - especially if it involves children."

In a phone interview from her home in Fountain Valley, Calif., Croft said Brademeyer tried to no avail to get TSA agents to use a wand on the frightened girl or allow her to walk through the metal detector again. She also said TSA agents wanted to screen her granddaughter alone in a separate room.

"She was kicking and screaming and fighting and in hysterics," Croft said. "At that point my daughter ran up to her against TSA's orders because she said, 'My daughter is terrified, I can't leave her.'"

The incident went on for maybe 10 minutes, until a manager came in and allowed agents to pat the girl down while she was screaming but being held by her mother. The family was then allowed to go to their next gate with a TSA agent following them.

Croft said that for the first few nights after coming home, Isabelle had nightmares and talked about kidnappers. She said TSA agents had shouted at the girl, telling her to calm down and saying the suspect wasn't cooperating.

"To a 4-year-old's perspective that's what it was to her because they didn't explain anything and she did not know what was going on," Croft said. "She saw people grabbing at her and raising their voices. To her, someone was trying to kidnap her or harm her in some way."

LMFAO, they treat a 4 year old like a terrorist suspect now.

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Baked

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That's where you're wrong. TSA agents are trained professionals, and when they sense something is off, they will take action to protect the public from terrorist plots. What you don't understand is the terrorists are using children as mules. What if the 4 year old is actually a midget carrying explosives! Just 'cause you look like a 4 year old, doesn't exempt you from a pat down! Now, get in line and spread your damn arms and legs before I taz you!
 

natto fire

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The only thing that would make me sad about the TSA disappearing is all the work it would take from illegals when former agents realize they are no better than glorified mall cops.
 

Newbian

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It only takes one child bomber to switch peoples mind and then blame the tsa for letting the kid pass.

Favoritism is not something that they should practice.
 
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Meh....if they were let a little girl run around the airport and she ended up being the carrier for dangerous weapons or explosives that ended up killing people, then everybody would be crying foul against the TSA people.

NOT that I agree with the security policies of airports, but it's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation here. You have to treat everybody as equals or the system is diminished and not working (not that it's working now).
 

Ketchup

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I hope they file a successful lawsuit. I think anyone could have seen this coming when the TSA was first formed, but it is still extremely frustrating to read about it.
 

mmntech

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Incidents like this is why people need to organize to get these government agencies shut down. The scary part is a lot of people still believe this kind of thing keeps them "safe." This from of Texax-style, in your face, zero tolerance security does not protect anyone. It just wastes money and puts wannabe cops on a power trip. It's a bureaucratized institution that runs like every other bureaucratized institution.

Israel on the other hand uses profiling at airports. Security walks the terminal checking form people who appear suspicious, or dare is say, look like a potential terrorists. Each passenger is asked a few basic questions on the basis that terrorists would be unable to remain composed. Those that fail are taken for further questioning. Still intrusive but not as invasive. El Al is a ripe terrorist target but has never had a terrorist attack. Unlike the TSA, numerous real attempts have been thwarted.
 

JulesMaximus

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I always hide my drugs and firearms on my 10 year old son before going through airport security. Works every time!
 

CPA

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Incidents like this is why people need to organize to get these government agencies shut down. The scary part is a lot of people still believe this kind of thing keeps them "safe." This from of Texax-style, in your face, zero tolerance security does not protect anyone. It just wastes money and puts wannabe cops on a power trip. It's a bureaucratized institution that runs like every other bureaucratized institution.

Israel on the other hand uses profiling at airports. Security walks the terminal checking form people who appear suspicious, or dare is say, look like a potential terrorists. Each passenger is asked a few basic questions on the basis that terrorists would be unable to remain composed. Those that fail are taken for further questioning. Still intrusive but not as invasive. El Al is a ripe terrorist target but has never had a terrorist attack. Unlike the TSA, numerous real attempts have been thwarted.

And that's our problem, we are too worried about hurting the feelings of certain groups to be able to effectively profile.
 

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Incidents like this is why people need to organize to get these government agencies shut down. The scary part is a lot of people still believe this kind of thing keeps them "safe." This from of Texax-style, in your face, zero tolerance security does not protect anyone. It just wastes money and puts wannabe cops on a power trip. It's a bureaucratized institution that runs like every other bureaucratized institution.

Israel on the other hand uses profiling at airports. Security walks the terminal checking form people who appear suspicious, or dare is say, look like a potential terrorists. Each passenger is asked a few basic questions on the basis that terrorists would be unable to remain composed. Those that fail are taken for further questioning. Still intrusive but not as invasive. El Al is a ripe terrorist target but has never had a terrorist attack. Unlike the TSA, numerous real attempts have been thwarted.

Pft yeah, what do they know about security and terrorists? I'll bet they don't molest nearly enough children and adults to be effective!
 
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The TSA is proof that the terrorists won. We're living in a state of fear because of the actions of a handful of evil bastards from 10 years ago. We're terrified that we might be next. And so we allow an organization with a track record of preventing exactly nothing and making nobody any safer to rifle through our belongings, strip us down, probe us, molest our children and generally do the sorts of actions that would get a city sued if done by actual police officers. The TSA is a sham, a joke, one of the most despicable acts of cowardice in our country's history and we should all be fucking ashamed that we've allowed it to go on.