TS: Rita

[Mill]

Originally posted by: DaWhim
fill up your tank or be sorry. I can see gas price will jump a buck.

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[Mill]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Ryan
Thank you - exactly what I was saying. There is NO WAY there was a deviation from the average of .81 cents - gas prices do vary, but LikeLinus was likely not even paying $1.80 for gas at anytime during this summer.

I say LikeLinus still wins. His number may be slightly off, but his point was correct (gas was cheaper nationwide before Katrina than it is now). Your point is incorrect (gas is not cheaper now than before Katrina).

Browse that website more, and you'll see LikeLinus is considered in the Midwest. In June 2005, the average price for the cheapest gas in the Midwest was $2.00/gallon as reported by that website. I don't know Tennessee gas tax laws (are they high or low for the midwest?), but there is a good chance that portions of the midwest near him were near $1.80/gallon.

Or you could just look here and see that gas prices in Nashville haven't been around 1.80 since a year ago.

 

[DaWhim]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: DaWhim
fill up your tank or be sorry. I can see gas price will jump a buck.

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heh

crude oil price future

the gasoline price more or less follow the price of the crude oil futures.

 

[Mill]

You can use this graph to see that prices were over 2.00 dollars before Katrina hit.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Ryan
Thank you - exactly what I was saying. There is NO WAY there was a deviation from the average of .81 cents - gas prices do vary, but LikeLinus was likely not even paying $1.80 for gas at anytime during this summer.

I say LikeLinus still wins. His number may be slightly off, but his point was correct (gas was cheaper nationwide before Katrina than it is now). Your point is incorrect (gas is not cheaper now than before Katrina).

Browse that website more, and you'll see LikeLinus is considered in the Midwest. In June 2005, the average price for the cheapest gas in the Midwest was $2.00/gallon as reported by that website. I don't know Tennessee gas tax laws (are they high or low for the midwest?), but there is a good chance that portions of the midwest near him were near $1.80/gallon.

Or you could just look here and see that gas prices in Nashville haven't been around 1.80 since a year ago.

Haha - the Average for his area was like $2.55 before the hurricane, and you can find gas for $2.4X on their front page. Thanks Mill

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Mill
You can use this graph to see that prices were over 2.00 dollars before Katrina hit.

$1.95 average near June 1
I said his numbers were probably a bit off. But still he wasn't off by much.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Ryan
Haha - the Average for his area was like $2.55 before the hurricane, and you can find gas for $2.4X on their front page. Thanks Mill

Look at this chart and rewrite that.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Mill
You can use this graph to see that prices were over 2.00 dollars before Katrina hit.

$1.95 average near June 1
I said his numbers were probably a bit off. But still he wasn't off by much.

JUNE! He was only nearly 3 months off.......

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Ryan
JUNE! He was only nearly 3 months off.......

Hey it was you who brought up summer:

Originally posted by: Ryan
gas prices do vary, but LikeLinus was likely not even paying $1.80 for gas at anytime during this summer.

I'm just showing that he was paying quite close to that number. Remember if $1.95 is the average, some places were cheaper. He probably paid $1.90 not $1.80. But his number isn't that far off.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Ryan
JUNE! He was only nearly 3 months off.......

Hey it was you who brought up summer:

Originally posted by: Ryan
gas prices do vary, but LikeLinus was likely not even paying $1.80 for gas at anytime during this summer.

I'm just showing that he was paying quite close to that number. Remember if $1.95 is the average, some places were cheaper. He probably paid $1.90 not $1.80. But his number isn't that far off.

But it wasn't before Katrina. His argument was that "right before Katrina" he was paying 1.80 to 1.90. This is simply not true unless he bought a contract at that lower price and was using that fuel.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Mill
But it wasn't before Katrina. His argument was that "right before Katrina" he was paying 1.80 to 1.90. This is simply not true unless he bought a contract at that lower price and was using that fuel.

No where did he say "right before". And it was Ryan that opened up the argument to the whole summer. But his point is still correct even if he falsely claimed that gas was $0.01/gallon. His point was that there was a spike when Katrina hit and they haven't reached the pre Katrina price yet. Show me one graph where it has hit the pre-Katrina prices and I'll show you 100 where it hasn't.

Here is the argument as I see it.

Ryan: Most cats have three legs.
LikeLinus: Most cats have four legs and the sky is green.
Ryan: The sky is not green thus most cats do not have four legs.
Mill: LikeLinus is wrong, the sky is not green.
Dullard: LikeLinus is correct that most cats have four legs, his point on the sky color is meaningless.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Mill
But it wasn't before Katrina. His argument was that "right before Katrina" he was paying 1.80 to 1.90. This is simply not true unless he bought a contract at that lower price and was using that fuel.

No where did he say "right before". And it was Ryan that opened up the argument to the whole summer. But his point is still correct even if he falsely claimed that gas was $0.01/gallon. His point was that there was a spike when Katrina hit and they haven't reached the pre Katrina price yet. Show me one graph where it has hit the pre-Katrina prices and I'll show you 100 where it hasn't.

Here is the argument as I see it.

Ryan: Most cats have three legs.
LikeLinus: Most cats have four legs and the sky is green.
Ryan: The sky is not green thus most cats do not have four legs.
Mill: LikeLinus is wrong, the sky is not green.
Dullard: LikeLinus is correct that most cats have four legs, his point on the sky color is meaningless.

He kept saying pre-Katrina, and we all know the implication of that is directly before -- not six months before, otherwise he would have stated that explicitly. No one is denying a price spike due to Katrina. I simply deny that Nashville had gas prices of 1.80-1.90 before Katrina -- they didn't. Sure, if you make the time period large enough you can make your outcome anything you want, but the implication of his post was that prices went from 1.80 to 1.90 to the mid to high 2.00's. That simply isn't true.

I never argued that prices were back to pre-Katrina levels because they aren't. They are still about 20-30 cents higher here than they were.

 

[Ulukia]

Pre-Katrina (right before) prices were around $2.50 and are now back to them ($2.55 last I looked). Went as high as $3.09.