try a computer science degree at a 4 yr school. not as techinical/programming intensive as computer eninggering, but still technical none-the-less. but honestly dude, if something is "too technical" then you are lazy imho. if you really want to get a decent job in the computer field, you get a technical type degree form a 4 yr school, and u put up with the sh!t to get it. no one said school/life is easy.
Don't become a nerdy programmer, become someone active in the pr0n industry... whether its a pr0n webmaster, or a pr0n distributor, or even a pr0n star. It's "hard" work but somebodies gotta do it!
Its not like that. We started learning about circuits and gates and crap like that. I have no need for that type of stuff. I don't really care what type of gates make up a circuit. I shouldn't really say it was too technical. I guess I should just say, it is not what I was interested in doing for the rest of my life. Like i said, I have no intrest in building chipsets, or circuit boards or anything like that. SO I will leave the AND gates and OR gates to the guys that do that stuff.
Tell me again, what's your degree in? Something that's more programming intensive that Comp Sci? Could you tell me what field that is, exactly?
Did you not consider that before going to school?
The resonating theme of your goals is avoiding that which is "too technical." I can't honestly think of anything, in any industry, that doesn't get "too technical" when you are advanced. You're not going to find a job in computers where you get to play around with things, and if you think designing circuit boards would be bad, wait until you get a taste of what a systems administrator has to go through on a daily basis. Compared to what a lot of system administrators do, circuit design is sexy.
IMO, you should think less about what degree you can get and more about what you'd really like to do.
Yes I do admit, I made a huge mistake taking EE at DeVry. I must have misunderstood them. The way they explained EE made it sound interesting, and like what i wanted to do. But I soon realized it was not. Once again I repeat, I should not have said it was too technical. I should have said it wa sjust not what i wanted to do with my life. I realize that any field I choose can be technical, and I am prepared for that.
I'm really confused as to what you want do.
EE is complex and requires a 4 year degree. CS is just as complex (with different emphasis) and also requires a 4 year degree. System administration is complex - you have to know very technical software in and out, and there is a lot more 'memorization' for certifications than there is for 4 year degrees, which seem to focus on application and not just sptting back facts. Working with software for music/movies is also complex, I mean, those video editors are not something like MS Word. Network infrastructure is also complex, not only is it the memorzation of certifications but also the DSP side of EE, which includes a lot of really freak random process math.
Computers are technical. There are system administrative jobs out there that work for small networks, but even then, in that case you are expected to have at least some knowledge of network infrastructure, operating systems, email systems, database systems, not to mention, be able to troubleshoot a variety of configurations.
Computers are complex. There aren't very many jobs out there that aren't technical. Maybe you need to reconsider your career path if it focuses on computers. It sounds like you might be better off being an administrative assistant if you don't want to deal with the comlexities of today's hardware and software. That way you can feel around in MS Word, Outlook and Excel and that'd be the extent of your job. (this is not meant as an insult or anything)
WTF? State schools and private 4-year schools are primarily research institutions. Devry and ITT aren't. When was the last time you saw advertisements for people to regisgter for a state school on the preview channel?
You are confusing for profit school with schools that advertise.
I went to UC Berkeley (a state school that is a "primarily research institution") and I have seen plenty of ads on tv for Cal (try watching a Cal game on TV and not being bombarded with their stupid ads).
So, I guess my answer to your question is Nov 22 (the cal vs. stanfurd football game).
So you are comparing 'adversiting' during the school's football games to the schools that run ads at 3 AM on the TV Guide channel?
Post that I replied to:
Where does it say "schools that run ads at 3 am on the TV guide"?
To say that public/private non-profit schools don't advertise on TV is wrong and just plain stupid.
IMO, I would find some idea of what you would be interested in, and then try to contact someone operating in a professional capacity to get an idea for what they actually do throughout their day. There's nothing wrong with not being certain of your interests, but it would be hard times for you to spend 4 years on a degree and then realize you didn't actually want to do the work. It's also a very costly mistake. CS, EE, and computers in general might seem like a fun job to some, but the actual work performed by the professionals is often not so sexy. If I had a byte for every CS student who said they didn't like programming I'd have terabytes worth of storage by now. I wonder what they thought CS was about... Counterstrike?
Good luck to you.
Elemental007, please go back and read my past few posts. I wish to hell I had never said EE was too technical. THAT IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. I can handle technical info. I already know my way around word and outlook and all that crap. I also know my way around the inside of a computer, and with the software that runs on it. Probablly not to the extent that some on here have, but more then most other people. I can deal with complexities.
I once again repeat, the reason i did not like EE was just that i didn't like doing that kinda of stuff. It wasn't too hard, or anything like that. I just have no need to know what type of gates make up a circuit. Let me just put it this way, I don't mind doing technical work, I just don't want to be an engineer. I could easily go into mechanical engineering. But I would just rather do architecture. Same for computers. Sure I could go EE or CE, but I would just rather go towards networking or maybe some for of information security type of thing.
This is the microcomputing associates degree, networking technician tarck from columbus state. I'm not saying thats what i am gonna do, that just seems mor elike something I would want to do.
COURSE CR
Quarter 1
CPT 101 PC Applications 1 3
MCT 121 Operating Systems 3
xxx xxx Basic Education Electives 3
SSCIXXX SSCI 101, 102, 103, 104 5
ENGL 101 Beginning Composition 3
CPT 108 CIS Concepts 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 20
Quarter 2
MCT 215 PC Maintenance 3
MCT 141 Expert Access 3
MCT 221 Networking 1 3
MATH103 Beginning Algebra 2 4
ENGL 102 Essay & Research 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 16
Quarter 3
MCT 122 Work Station Operations 3
CPT 261 Network Comm. Systems 5
MCT 141 Expert Access 3
ACCT106 Introduction to Accounting I 5
CPT 211 Systems Analysis 1 4
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 20
Quarter 4
MCT254 Database Administration/SQL 4
CPT 263 Networking 2 3
CPT 264 Advanced Networking 5
ACCT107 Introduction to Accounting II 5
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 17
Quarter 5
MCT 223 Server Admin I 5
MCT 256 Data Mining and Warehousing 4
BMGT101 Introduction to Business 5
ENGL204 Technical Writing 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 17
I once again repeat, the reason i did not like EE was just that i didn't like doing that kinda of stuff. It wasn't too hard, or anything like that. I just have no need to know what type of gates make up a circuit. Let me just put it this way, I don't mind doing technical work, I just don't want to be an engineer. I could easily go into mechanical engineering. But I would just rather do architecture. Same for computers. Sure I could go EE or CE, but I would just rather go towards networking or maybe some for of information security type of thing.
This is the microcomputing associates degree, networking technician tarck from columbus state. I'm not saying thats what i am gonna do, that just seems mor elike something I would want to do.
COURSE CR
Quarter 1
CPT 101 PC Applications 1 3
MCT 121 Operating Systems 3
xxx xxx Basic Education Electives 3
SSCIXXX SSCI 101, 102, 103, 104 5
ENGL 101 Beginning Composition 3
CPT 108 CIS Concepts 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 20
Quarter 2
MCT 215 PC Maintenance 3
MCT 141 Expert Access 3
MCT 221 Networking 1 3
MATH103 Beginning Algebra 2 4
ENGL 102 Essay & Research 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 16
Quarter 3
MCT 122 Work Station Operations 3
CPT 261 Network Comm. Systems 5
MCT 141 Expert Access 3
ACCT106 Introduction to Accounting I 5
CPT 211 Systems Analysis 1 4
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 20
Quarter 4
MCT254 Database Administration/SQL 4
CPT 263 Networking 2 3
CPT 264 Advanced Networking 5
ACCT107 Introduction to Accounting II 5
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 17
Quarter 5
MCT 223 Server Admin I 5
MCT 256 Data Mining and Warehousing 4
BMGT101 Introduction to Business 5
ENGL204 Technical Writing 3
TOTAL CREDIT HOURS 17
People consider ITT and Devry, etc, to be garbage because they aren't accredited. They may say they are, but they aren't on the same level as any "real" college. Just try to transfer credits from one of those franchise schools to a public or private university, you'll see that you wasted a lot of time. Personally if I saw deVry or ITT or an MBA from some internet school on a resume I wouldn't take it seriously at all. Go to a real school and take a business class, any IT job you could get besides networking is going to be in India soon anyways.
Physics, chem, etc... stuff that doesn't have to do with your major but colleges requires them anyway because they are excellent at weeding out students who can't handle long weekly hws and impossible tests. And it's not the regular classes for most students; engineering colleges require advanced classes with 2 semesters of material condensed into 1 semester just to pressure you. Every major engineering major I have looked at requires at least 2 semesters worth of physics and 1 semester of chem (and it's double for me) so I'm wondering where is yours.
He said the courses listed were for the microcomputing associates degree, not engineering. They are geared more around the practical than the theoretical, as is obvious by the course descriptions.
Yeah this is just an associates degree from a community college. Like i said, I don't want to be an engineer.
Why waste your money on getting a degree in stuff you can learn through books? If it's pratical stuff you want to learn, you could just access those classes webpages and find out which books you will need and which chapters they cover. Then you should get a 4-year major in something else; looks better on a resume.
I would have no idea what field to get a 4 year degree in. And I know you will all start saying I'm lazy again, but i don't see why I would need to take a ton of general education classes to work with computers. I mean how does chemistry figure into networking?
Microcomputers are just standard computers BTW
Microcomputers are just standard computers BTW
No, you definately don't want to do this....
...because it'll be harder for to get jobs with more people out there
Computer Graphics PWNS like warm, fresh bedsheets on a winter day.
How far are you willing to go for your education?
Althought Cincinnati State (my school) is a community college its program is very challenging and the work level has been rising to the standards of UC's DAAP program in the past couple years. CG is one of the very few good courses at CinState.
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