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Trying to figure out if I believe in g-d

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smokey7722

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Ok, so right off the bat, I'll give ya some info. I was raised Jewish, had a bar mitzvah and all that. However I always kinda figured myself as agnostic. Didn't tell my parents though. So now I am thinking bout stuff and it occurs to me, that with all that I believe in, I am contradicting myself. This is why:

1) I refuse to spell on g-d's name, hense putting a dash there. In the Jewish faith, if you write out g-d's full name, then erase/throw out/discard it, it is concidered a sin and for some reason I believe in this, even though I consider myself agnostic.
2) I do believe in fate. We are all born for a reason, not just because our parents were horny one night. That and everything happens for a reason. Everything I do/have done has some link to the reason I was born. I am not saying that every word I say, every thing I do, is planned. I feel that everything I do though links me to the reason I am who I am. Does that make sense to all of you?

To me, those two reasons are enough to make me realize that I actually DO believe in g-d. What do you all think? I really don't know if i do or not and I've been doing a lot of self reflecting lately.
 
why do you blank out the "o" in god? You didnt capitalize the word, so why blank out a letter? It's not showing some sort of amazing reverence. Does the bible do that?
 
it seems to me that if you believe in fate, you must believe in some sort of force which governs the universe, vis a vis, god.
 
I'm not sure, generally i haven't capitallized g-d's name in years as I never really believed that there was one. But for some reason at the same time I believe that if I write g-d with the o, then erase/throw out/discard whatever i wrote it on, that it would be a sin...
 
Originally posted by: SWScorch
it seems to me that if you believe in fate, you must believe in some sort of force which governs the universe, vis a vis, god.
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Thats what I was thinking. I'm just to confused with everything nowadays I wanted to get some other peoples opinions.
 
Originally posted by: smokey7722
I'm not sure, generally i haven't capitallized g-d's name in years as I never really believed that there was one. But for some reason at the same time I believe that if I write g-d with the o, then erase/throw out/discard whatever i wrote it on, that it would be a sin...
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But wouldn't "G-D" know of your intent to write out "H"is name?

Well if you're afraid of being struck down for using "H"is name in vain and you also believe in fate, which implies that there is some divine power dictating the events of the universe, then give it a try.

Now believing in which "G-D" is whole different question..
 
Originally posted by: smokey7722
I'm not sure, generally i haven't capitallized g-d's name in years as I never really believed that there was one. But for some reason at the same time I believe that if I write g-d with the o, then erase/throw out/discard whatever i wrote it on, that it would be a sin...
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But wouldn't "G-D" know of your intent to write out "H"is name?

Well if you're afraid of being struck down for using "H"is name in vain and you also believe in fate, which implies that there is some divine power dictating the events of the universe, then give it a try.

Now believing in which "G-D" is whole different question..
 
Originally posted by: SWScorch
it seems to me that if you believe in fate, you must believe in some sort of force which governs the universe, vis a vis, god.
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Fate doesn't necessarily imply divine control. It could also imply that events in the past and future are linked, in that the future exists as an already written event.
 
i don't understand why you're asking other people. weather you believe in god is in you. no one here can answer that question for you. if you don't believe then oh well. people can live happy lives with or without god.

 
Originally posted by: cheapgoose
i don't understand why you're asking other people. weather you believe in god is in you. no one here can answer that question for you. if you don't believe then oh well. people can live happy lives with or without god.
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I'm not necessarily asking you all if "I" believe in g-d. I am asking for some input like the others already have provided.
 
I always deemed myself as 'questing'. Not atheist, or agnostic, or undecided. For 22+ years I've quested for what I can believe in, deeply studying most religions and philosophies along the way. Until last year I hadn't decided if there was any divinity whatsoever, be it monotheistic, eastern, collective-uncounscious, etc. Last year some things happened that clinched it for me...and now I know that there is a divinity, there is a responsive consciousness. I don't know enough yet to claim a particular religion as accurate, but I know that there is a God (or something equivalent) and it does want me to learn more about it and believe in it. That's good enough for me to focus my energies towards those pursuits.

What I'm saying is, no one could convince me...not with all the writings in the world. Watching my daughter be born didn't convince me, watching my mother die didn't make me need to fake a belief...it happened when it happened, and it had nothing to do with me trying to figure it out. It took more than two decades. I think that's ok. I think belief comes to each person in the way it has to for them to truly believe it, and understand it. And nothing we can do or say changes that. It's not between you and your parents, or your spouse, or your pastor (or rabbi)...it's between you and God, and he'll decide when and how you come to know him.

And I think, though others may disagree, that that's only the beginning. I have known very few people who's faiths didn't change somewhat over the years. I think that's the way it's supposed to be, constantly growing and evolving and looking for better understanding...just like a spouse struggles a lifetime for a better relationship with their significant other.

Just my feelings on it. Good luck to you.

 
Disbelief in a higher power doesn't necessarly preclude belief in fate. Read about determinism. It's a school of thought that says that all things, humans included, are locked into a rigid cycle of cause and effect. A cup of water cannot choose not to boil at 100C. Our bodies function because of highly complex chemical reactions, and all our thoughts and emotions are controlled by these, so we can no more choose to behave in a way other than circumstances out of our control force us to, any more than the cup of water can choose not to boil.
 
There are only two entities who can know if you believe in God. You and God. We can't figure this out for you.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
There are only two entities who can know if you believe in God. You and God. We can't figure this out for you.

ZV
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As I said earlier, I am not asking you to tell me if I believe or not. I am asking for some input just like lirion, PrinceofWands, and Astaroth33 have provided.
 
Originally posted by: TheBDB
What makes you believe in fate?
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To tell you the truth, I really don't know. I have always believed the fact that all of us are here for a reason, and not just as humans. We are all here individually to do something. I have no proof but it is something that I have believed in as far as I can remember.
 
Originally posted by: smokey7722
Originally posted by: TheBDB
What makes you believe in fate?
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To tell you the truth, I really don't know. I have always believed the fact that all of us are here for a reason, and not just as humans. We are all here individually to do something. I have no proof but it is something that I have believed in as far as I can remember.
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Well then you sound like a perfect candidate to believe in god too. It's all about blind faith in something that you can never disprove to make yourself feel better about what is truthfully a cruel universe. 😀
 
In my experience, when people are asking questions of this nature, they are usually hoping to get a certain answer, or at least an answer that vaguely points in a certain direction.

I can tell you that seven months ago I never thought I could ever be considered a Christian. As of today I am 6 months and 10 days old as a Christian. When it happens, it happens. You'll know.

ZV
 
the way i see it, fate and god have nothing to do with each other. neither do fate and free will. We all control our own destinies, but our future control of them is written in stone the same way our past control of them was. basically the "slaughterhouse five" idea.
 
If that Skywalker guy who consistently posts YAGTs ever gets laid then you know there is no god. Mainly because no loving god would ever let that guy have an opportunity to breed.
 
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