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Trying to Add RH9

Basie

Senior member
I already have Fedora Core 1 and Mandrake 9.2 installed. I have about 9
G free. When I got to the Partitioning in the RH9 install either automatic or
disk druid wouldnt let me create the partitions. With nine gigs free why should RH9
find a problem with creating Partitions?
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Ummm I am guessing here, but:

you have 4 partitions made already, right?

/dev/hda1
/dev/hda2
/dev/hda3
/dev/hda4

Those are all primary partitions? No extended partitions? No logical partitions?

You have a max of 4 primary partitions, if you want more you have to make partition 4 a extended partition and create logical partitions out of that. It's a limitation built into our PCs by a accident of fate.

Of course Fedora and Redhat are pretty much the same OS, anyways.

Fedora Core 1 == Redhat 10.0
Fedora Core 2 == Redhat 11.0, pretty much.
 
Thanks Drag, I totally forgot about the four partition Rule. I created a boot , root and swap in both Fedora
and Mandrake. so of course RH9 couldnt create a Primary. Was wondering if when using Disk Druid is there a way to determine or select the type of partition you want. I didnt seem to notice any except
a selection to force a Primary.
 
I am sure there is a way to do it when your installing it. I haven't used disk druid for a while, so I don't know exactly what you have to do, something probably like create a partition while having it use all remainning space then right click on it and tell it to be a extended partition or whatnot.

Don't remember for sure.

But that would require you to delete partition 4 and create a new one and make it extended instead of a primary, so your going to loose whatever information you have on it.

If it's a swap partition, that's no biggy. Just delete it. When running multiple instances of Linux you don't have to use a different swap partition for each one, just use one for all of them.

How the OS knows which partition on which drive to use for what is with the /etc/fstab file. You just boot into that and edit the fstab file and change the swap partition line to use /dev/hda2 instead of /dev/hda4, or whatever they are. Then just boot up with the next install disk and delete it, the next time you use the OS it will automaticly use whatever changes in the /etc/fstab you made, no questions asked.

But truth be told, a Linux distro is a Linux distro is a Linux distro. Technically they all are the same, differences happen on the gui configuration tools, how they are initially setup, and newer distros are going to use the technical improvements that happened since the older version was put out. Developement the open source world is very rapid, but changes happen gradually, unlike say MS were you have big abrupt changes every few handfull of years. Some are intended for different audiances, but Fedora and Mandrake are for pretty much the same audiance and Fedora is just a newer version of Redhat. (Redhat recently dropped support for RH9 btw. There are people who support it legacy-wise for server installations and such, but there isn't much reason to use it now if you can pick Fedora.)

If you want to try something different give a *BSD a try.

The BSD's are more closer to the original Unix stuff and are decendents of the original BSD operating system were we got things like TCP/IP and the arpanet, before lawsuites from the commercial Unix side put a damper on things. (they effectively bit off the hand that fed them.)

You have NetBSD (universal version), FreeBSD (originally x86-centric), and OpenBSD (hardcore security oriented).

Lots of times people like the BSD-world better then the Linux world because Linux operating systems are comparatively chaotic and are underrefined. With BSD it's classic Unix-style stuff, but it's still open source and free software and all that, so even though they lag behind Linux's developement a ways, they are very professional and have similar benifits to Linux.

The have a leadership driven development model with a few people at the top directing the activities of developers to create a more unified and probably more stable OS.

(personally I like Debian Linux)
 
drag's description of the leadership is a bit off, but not bad for a Linux user. 😉

OpenBSD: Theo de Raadt, NetBSD (1 of 4) and OpenBSD founder is a benevolent dictator. He directs, approves, and denies everything. Looking at CVS logs, you'll see his name all of the place.

NetBSD and FreeBSD have core developers. They're more democratic (or beaurocratic depending on how you look at it 😉).

I'm not sure about ekkoBSD.

HawkinsOS is basically commercial FreeBSD.

And DragonflyBSD is , I believe, another benevolent dictatorship.

I don't know about NetBSD and FreeBSD, but OpenBSD doesn't have an arcane 4 partition limit. I think it's 16 per disk. I know I've got quite a few on most of my machines. 🙂
 
I don't know about NetBSD and FreeBSD, but OpenBSD doesn't have an arcane 4 partition limit. I think it's 16 per disk. I know I've got quite a few on most of my machines.
I thought the 4 partition limit was hardware oriented. Basically the parition table on an IDE drive only has room for 4 entires. Which is why partition tables for extended partitions are stored on the partition itself. I suppose software could be used to simulate all prmary partitions, but why?

What type of drives are those n0c?
 
I did get RH9 running by deleting one of the Swap partitions. I also discovered that I could copy and paste the Mandrake and RH9 Grub Config entries into the Fedora Grub Config file which then gives me a
selection at Bootup. That was much easier than using LiLo which I tried last time and was mainly unsuccessful.
I like these Distros because I grew up on Win98-XPpro and really love the GUIs both Gnome and
KDE. As I was experimenting with Linux I found I had to learn how to use the Bash Shell and Commands.
Especially when I had to install Tarballs and upgrade RPM Packages. But I would rather use a GUI frontend so I think that BSD would not be for me.
But, thanks for all the Information.
 
Originally posted by: Bremen
I don't know about NetBSD and FreeBSD, but OpenBSD doesn't have an arcane 4 partition limit. I think it's 16 per disk. I know I've got quite a few on most of my machines.
I thought the 4 partition limit was hardware oriented. Basically the parition table on an IDE drive only has room for 4 entires. Which is why partition tables for extended partitions are stored on the partition itself. I suppose software could be used to simulate all prmary partitions, but why?

What type of drives are those n0c?

The limit is a bios limitation. Other computer platforms don't nessicarially have the same issues.

The BSD's get around this problem by creating one huge partition then dividing it up into various smaller segments. Each segment is like a pseudo-partition. Kinda like having a extended partition divided up by logical partition.

I like these Distros because I grew up on Win98-XPpro and really love the GUIs both Gnome and
KDE. As I was experimenting with Linux I found I had to learn how to use the Bash Shell and Commands.
Especially when I had to install Tarballs and upgrade RPM Packages. But I would rather use a GUI frontend so I think that BSD would not be for me.
But, thanks for all the Information.

I was in the same boat as you. Moving to Linux from Windows was a refreshing change of pace and a good learning experiance.

But just so you know X windows and KDE/GNOME work well in BSD just like they do in linux. It's very easy to port programs from one unix to another.

Of course the GUI configuration tools that Redhat offers isn't aviable with the BSD.
 
Originally posted by: Bremen
I don't know about NetBSD and FreeBSD, but OpenBSD doesn't have an arcane 4 partition limit. I think it's 16 per disk. I know I've got quite a few on most of my machines.
I thought the 4 partition limit was hardware oriented. Basically the parition table on an IDE drive only has room for 4 entires. Which is why partition tables for extended partitions are stored on the partition itself. I suppose software could be used to simulate all prmary partitions, but why?

What type of drives are those n0c?

It is a hardware limitation. I think it's the BSD disklabel that allows me to have 10 partitions on this IDE disk. 😉
 
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