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[gopunk]

gopunk

but what makes a civilization worth more than the life of a flea?

This is the crux of the issue. When nothing is sacrosanct and there is no God or definable Good, then we might as well give the life of animals the same weight as the life of a man, or all of civilization. Without the focus on doing Good for people, those looking to do good look in the wrong direction.

wrong direction, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion. personally, i don't see anything wrong about caring for animals as well as humans.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

more worth, from my standpoint, because i enjoy life and want to live, etc etc etc. i don't think we can say that from an objective standpoint, however. the reason i'm talking about objectivity is because it seems to when people talk about how valuable human life is, they are implying that this is an absolute truth since they generally leave out the "to other humans" part.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

datalink7

It wasn't the that you were witnessing. It was how you went about it. It was a arrogant, vs. a humble, approach.

?might you all wish to hear what I have to say about the lord and salvation? Might have been a better way to go about it.

I just wanted to state the facts as I know them, and allow others to think about them, disagree, and ask questions, you know, post a topic.

I posted this topic as I would any other, but people are very touchy when it comes to God, the truth of Salvation, and the better life that could be lived in chasing after the heart of the Lord.


gopunk

wrong direction, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion. personally, I don't see anything wrong about caring for animals as well as humans.

a direction defined by trying to do what is good. If you do not like the idea of a good society, working towards the best life any of us could have, or any of that, then that is the other direction. Others might believe that it is not a good thing to try and do the good thing... but these people will not live the best lives that they can more will they be good for lives of those around them.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

fleas... now that's a solid snack there!

 

[gopunk]

gopunk

wrong direction, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion. personally, I don't see anything wrong about caring for animals as well as humans.

a defined by trying to do what is good. If you do not like the idea of a good society, working towards the best life any of us could have, or any of that, then that is the other direction. Others might believe that it is not a good thing to try and do the good thing... but these people will not live the best lives that they can more will they be good for lives of those around them.

as defined by trying to do what is good, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: MichaelD.........That's just rude.

People like you should just wear a sign around your neck or put a bumper sticker on your car that says:

Ask me about Jesus!!

If I ask, then tell me. If not, STFU. Thanks.

MichaelD, you are who is rude. You do not have to read or post in his thread. Whether LordMagnusKain spells correctly or not, he's actually being considerate in asking for a counter point and furthering discussion. He fairly clearly states something he cares an awful lot about. To him it is fact, to you it is not. That's a difference of opinion, not a reason for you to grill him on petty annoyances or dump on him.

Anyone can retread witty anti-Christian witicisms and slander someone for grammar but it really only shows your ignorance when you do so, not theirs. I am certain that your deep seated issues with spirituality have their proper venue for display - but it is not here. I am sure your considerate concerns would be heard and given due respect, but this...

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
datalink7

It wasn't the that you were witnessing. It was how you went about it. It was a arrogant, vs. a humble, approach.

?might you all wish to hear what I have to say about the lord and salvation? Might have been a better way to go about it.

I just wanted to state the facts as I know them, and allow others to think about them, disagree, and ask questions, you know, post a topic.

I posted this topic as I would any other, but people are very touchy when it comes to God, the truth of Salvation, and the better life that could be lived in chasing after the heart of the Lord.

You could have come in and said "I found what I think is something important about life. I think it is the truth, and I would like to share it with you. But I would also like to hear your opinions." That would have been MUCH better reiceved (or at least it should be).

But instead of that, you came in and said "These are the facts whether you believe them or not." That is what I am talking about. You weren't humble in the first place (which Christian doctrine would teach you to be). Being humble would help spread your message more. People would be more receptive.

Whether you hold the truth or not is irrelevant in this case. You need to work on your message/witnessing before people will even begin to consider what you have to say.

Just trying to help you out buddy

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

Depends on who the dog is saving.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

Depends on who the dog is saving.

Nobody, it already did its heroic act.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

Depends on who the dog is saving.

Nobody, it already did its heroic act.

Then it lived out it's purpose, fvck it. Wait, one more stipulation. Is the useless human on welfare?

 

[LordMagnusKain]

as defined by trying to do what is good, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion.

as defined by Jesus Christ, if you can find one bad thing in anything that Jesus ever said, then I?ll renounce all of my beliefs... but you can not. thus salvation is to chase after what is good:

Chasseing after what is good will lead to the best life for yourself and all those around you.


Sketcher:

It's just my job to say what I know, if God moves then it's out of my hands.. and if the other side moves, that to is out of my hands.

I have only to inspect myself to make sure I?m doing as best as I can in delivering the Good news as I know it.
*the thread wasn't closed, although some tried to crap on the thread, and I?ve gotten to say what needs be said as I was moved to say*

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

Depends on who the dog is saving.

Nobody, it already did its heroic act.

Then it lived out it's purpose, fvck it. Wait, one more stipulation. Is the useless human on welfare?

I can see where this is going so I'll say yes and no. Thinking yes would mean save the dog get rid of the drag on society. Not sure about no. And not sure about dog being able to be trained to be a blind seeing dog either.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

as defined by trying to do what is good, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion.

as defined by Jesus Christ, if you can find one bad thing in anything that Jesus ever said, then I?ll renounce all of my beliefs... but you can not. thus salvation is to chase after what is good:

Chasseing after what is good will lead to the best life for yourself and all those around you.

right, his opinion. i don't really have time to go through every word he uttered, but i'll take your word that he never said anything "bad" (i'm assuming this would be something like "your mom's a whore" or something). that doesn't mean his opinion is necessarily right though.

 

[Pastore]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Beast1284

Originally posted by: gopunk

Well then, what makes a civilization and a fleas worth the same/different (whatever your belief might be)?

i don't think that there is any set value on anything, at least none that we can discern, from an objective standpoint.

from my own standpoint, i assign values however i feel... which is probably a result of what things i perceive to benefit me the most.

Exactly, so put yourself in this situation. You are walking down the street with highrises all around you. Some dude decides to kill himself, so he throws himself out the 50th story. Right before he lands on you, some guy runs up behind you and grabs you and moves you out of the way right before the suicidal dude kills you by falling on you. If that guy wasn't there you would have been dead. So rewind 5 years and say that guy got shot in the head in a drug deal gone bad, now 5 years later that dude won't be there to save your life. So I think in you saying that generally your values correlate to what would benefit you, I would hope you would agree that a humans life has more worth than a fleas.

Depends, am I a flea or a human.

Human as far as I can tell.

Trying to make a point that the value of a humans life is only sentimental

But a human can have a direct effect on your life. That holds more value in my book, no sentimental feelings involved.

So can a flea. What if I am driving and it bites me and i fly off a cliff? Same effect on my life as a man jumping off a building on to me.

Sentimental wasn't the word I really wanted either, more that our value of human life is obviously biased by our very own humanity and that each living being would hold value of there life over anothers.

If a dog could save my life in some way, it's life would be more important than some stupid homeless shmuck that will never do anything.

I agree with you there, but if you had the choice of a hero dog dying or a useless human dying? I would have say down with the dog.

Depends on who the dog is saving.

Nobody, it already did its heroic act.

Then it lived out it's purpose, fvck it. Wait, one more stipulation. Is the useless human on welfare?

I can see where this is going so I'll say yes and no. Thinking yes would mean save the dog get rid of the drag on society. Not sure about no. And not sure about dog being able to be trained to be a blind seeing dog either.

lol, too many variables. Fvck them both.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

as defined by trying to do what is good, as defined by you, your religion, or some other opinion.

as defined by Jesus Christ, if you can find one bad thing in anything that Jesus ever said, then I?ll renounce all of my beliefs... but you can not. thus salvation is to chase after what is good:

Chasseing after what is good will lead to the best life for yourself and all those around you.

Read some Nietzsche.

 

[bigredguy]

posts are too long

lol, too many variables. Fvck them both.

I think I lost the initial meaning of what I said too, lol.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

datalink7

You could have come in and said "I found what I think is something important about life. I think it is the truth, and I would like to share it with you. But I would also like to hear your opinions." That would have been MUCH better received (or at least it should be).

like I said, I posted it as thou it where any other topic.
It is inferred, fact or opinion, that you ?think? something you state, whether or not you state ?I think??;

That I know these things also is that it is true a truth I have been shown, and I?d like to show others.

Pride separates us from God, and I suppose that if I presented no pride in the lord others would not have there own pride in them selves questioned.

God?s salvation thou the sacrifice of Christ is a truth that set?s your soul free. Humbleness unto the Lord is what allows you to be free of sin. Accepting personal imperfection and a need of salvation, and accepting that salvation is all that is necessary.