Trump's win wasn't about racism

[buckshot24]

lol, and that's all you got... L O L.

All I need, you backed a loser and she did what she always did. Take a break, you're not accomplishing anything.

 

[cubby1223]

What does any of this matter?

The man people chose is a vile person who has zero morals. His wife is almost half his age. He says crude things and still gets blind support from his followers. He calls himself a "Christian." What a joke. Yet, these so-called conservatives who talk about morality VOTED for him.

You don't have to vote, you know. Just because you don't like Hillary, doesn't mean that you must vote for a totally corrupt person like Trump.

Extremely sad that this person got elected. It tells us a lot about our society. A society who views abortion as evil but SUPPORTS killing millions of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis.

I don't know about you, but I thought we were voting who is the better person to lead the country, not the better person to invite over for Christmas dinner.

 

[Commodus]

Many Trump supporters aren't openly racist or sexist. Here's the problem: they didn't see blatant racism or sexism as enough of a deterrent against voting for him. These are supposed to be red flags for any reasonable person, but outright hatred and ignorance are apparently less important than superficial charisma and sticking it to the system.

If you say you're not racist or sexist, please actually live up to that ideal. Don't act like your hatred for Clinton/the Democrats is more important than the lives of minorities and women. Don't pretend that Trump didn't mean what he said, or that his policies aren't grossly discriminatory.

 

[Victorian Gray]

What does any of this matter?

The man people chose is a vile person who has zero morals. His wife is almost half his age. He says crude things and still gets blind support from his followers. He calls himself a "Christian." What a joke. Yet, these so-called conservatives who talk about morality VOTED for him.

You don't have to vote, you know. Just because you don't like Hillary, doesn't mean that you must vote for a totally corrupt person like Trump.

Extremely sad that this person got elected. It tells us a lot about our society. A society who views abortion as evil but SUPPORTS killing millions of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis.

But by voting for him they stopped the Devil Woman from being elected so all is good..

 

[cubby1223]

Many Trump supporters aren't openly racist or sexist. Here's the problem: they didn't see blatant racism or sexism as enough of a deterrent against voting for him.

Trump voters certainly also didn't see blatant racsim or sexism as enough of a deterrent to vote for an alternative who's economic/social/foreign/whatever policies are undesirable.

 

[cubby1223]

If you say you're not racist or sexist, please actually live up to that ideal. Don't act like your hatred for Clinton/the Democrats is more important than the lives of minorities and women. Don't pretend that Trump didn't mean what he said, or that his policies aren't grossly discriminatory.

What exactly do you fear will happen to minorities and women over the next 4 years?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Many Trump supporters aren't openly racist or sexist. Here's the problem: they didn't see blatant racism or sexism as enough of a deterrent against voting for him. These are supposed to be red flags for any reasonable person, but outright hatred and ignorance are apparently less important than superficial charisma and sticking it to the system.

If you say you're not racist or sexist, please actually live up to that ideal. Don't act like your hatred for Clinton/the Democrats is more important than the lives of minorities and women. Don't pretend that Trump didn't mean what he said, or that his policies aren't grossly discriminatory.

What racially discriminatory policies against American citizens has he proposed? (Note: immigrant discrimination based on nation of origin is not an answer being that it discriminates against people that are not yet citizens).

 

[cubby1223]

It's quite interesting, when we all went into work Wednesday morning, it was one of my female co-workers, a very strong & independent woman, who was most ecstatic celebrating the Trump victory.

Reality can be quite different from the bubble MSNBC & The Daily Show are pumping into your heads.

 

[soundforbjt]

What racially discriminatory policies against American citizens has he proposed? (Note: immigrant discrimination based on nation of origin is not an answer being that it discriminates against people that are not yet citizens).

Muslim ban (would effect American muslims) for one.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"Beta male" is now a part of my mom's regular vocabulary, lol. She loves Trump.

Obviously some special snowflakes are triggered as hell right now, but the demographics of the vote show that no one really cared about the various politically incorrect things he said. He performed just about as well as previous Republicans with minorities and women.

Muslim ban (would effect American muslims) for one.

Do you not read parenthetical statements?

 

[Commodus]

What exactly do you fear will happen to minorities and women over the next 4 years?

Repealing freedoms given to LGBT people. Defunding Planned Parenthood based on lies (that abortion is a large chunk of what it does, and that federal funding is used for those procedures). Existing equality/opportunity initiatives either get neglected or scrapped. Fostering racist sentiments... hell, we've seen that last one already with the sudden surge of racist graffiti and harassment.

 

[Commodus]

What racially discriminatory policies against American citizens has he proposed? (Note: immigrant discrimination based on nation of origin is not an answer being that it discriminates against people that are not yet citizens).

Funny, I thought racism was always wrong whether or not someone was a citizen. Guess you're fine with it as long as the victims don't have the right to vote.

(I know that's not what you're arguing, but don't try to dodge the problem, please)

 

[buckshot24]

Funny, I thought racism was always wrong whether or not someone was a citizen. Guess you're fine with it as long as the victims don't have the right to vote.

(I know that's not what you're arguing, but don't try to dodge the problem, please)

We don't need to let anybody in, why is it wrong to scrutinize some people a little more thoroughly who comes from specific countries?

 

[agent00f]

Not even most. Hell racists have been in the R camp long before Trump.

If Hillary wouldn't have taken the rust belt for granted we would all be talking how progressive America is and how it's the year of the woman. It was a marginal difference either way, and therefore both overgeneralizations are wrong.

Sure, if by "taking for granted" means the party expending considerable political capital to save the only industry there that's worth anything.

Then the birther comes along to hate on muslims and mexicans (you know, those darkies from the other side of the country) and wins the area in unprecedented fashion. And I would emphasize unprecedented because trump's predecessors sure weren't up to the task.

Must be a coincidence.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

We don't need to let anybody in, why is it wrong to scrutinize some people a little more thoroughly who comes from specific countries?

who would jesus block?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Funny, I thought racism was always wrong whether or not someone was a citizen. Guess you're fine with it as long as the victims don't have the right to vote.

(I know that's not what you're arguing, but don't try to dodge the problem, please)

Is "Muslim" a race? Is it discrimination to not want to bring in people from countries that cause disproportionate amounts of political terror and follow laws incompatible with Western culture?

 

[agent00f]

Is "Muslim" a race? Is it discrimination to not want to bring in people from countries that cause disproportionate amounts of political terror and follow laws incompatible with Western culture?

Muslim is a race far as the klan types are concerned.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Muslim is a race far as the klan types are concerned.

Must be a lot of Klan in Eastern Europe right now.

 

[agent00f]

Must be a lot of Klan in Eastern Europe right now.

White nationalism has quite the history around those parts.

 

[Commodus]

Is "Muslim" a race? Is it discrimination to not want to bring in people from countries that cause disproportionate amounts of political terror and follow laws incompatible with Western culture?

Most Muslims are non-white, and there's clearly a "keep the brown ones out" theme running with Trump. And the problem is, your claim would only have some merit if Trump was limiting the ban to people from countries where Muslim extremism is a major problem. But that's not what he's asking for: he's asking for a total ban on Muslim immigration, wherever the immigrants come from. That's over 1.6 billion people, many of whom don't live in problematic countries. And when there's just a vague plan to keep the ban going "until our country's representatives can figure out what's going on," that doesn't suggest that it would be a short-term restriction.

 

[Jhhnn]

What racially discriminatory policies against American citizens has he proposed? (Note: immigrant discrimination based on nation of origin is not an answer being that it discriminates against people that are not yet citizens).

Illegals? Citizen Latinos? How can you tell them apart when you haven't seen their papers?

 

[Jhhnn]

White nationalism has quite the history around those parts.

The Axis included Hungary, Bulgaria & Romania. Huge numbers of Waffen SS troops volunteered throughout Europe. The grandfathers of today's Right Front in Ukraine greeted Axis troops as liberators.

Today, we have Wilders in the Netherlands, Le Pen in France, God knows who in Germany, Eastern Europe & Ukraine. Social media, the democratization of media, has given them all a new voice & new life. It's the same in this country.

 

[bshole]

well I disagree with moore, plus the dem candidate was not as electric as the repub's. and the whole smear campaign against her seemed to be pretty virulent. More talk about pussygate and email and benghazi than actual platforms.
drumpf blew a dog whistle many, many times, and the fucktards answered, en masse.

I agree with you that issues were rarely talked about. None of the smears made much sense to me but apparently I was wrong, Trump got elected. The smears had a real negative effect. Most people were probably unaware of either candidates postions on most issues.

 

[feralkid]

Must be a lot of Klan in Eastern Europe right now.

It's getting that way...

 

[Jhhnn]

It's getting that way...

Orban & Fidesz have altered the political system in Hungary so that it's basically impossible for the opposition to have any power at all. They did, in truth, have a massive mandate coming into power but I doubt that this is what a lot of their supporters bargained for.

Trump sure as Hell doesn't have that kind of mandate but he'll probably act like he did.