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Trumps presser today 1-10

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Doc Savage Fan said:
You have much fear and it's making you irrational imo.
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If the Very Stable Genius were to comment he might say that the preponderance of evidence regarding the foolishness and willful ignorance of our collective selves combined with the ever-increasing ability to destroy combined to increased access to these means reasonably suggests that over time the chances for self-extinction increases. This has nothing to do with fear, it's a dispassionate analysis of the current state of our world. To balance that is Hope, the irrational but real factor, that circumstances or individuals will allow us to improve and outgrow this immature phase of our society. It has happened and it promotes sanity, at least for many.

But VSG's tend to have a quality, the desire for understanding, including their own self, their position in the world, and what they need to know about their situation for themselves and how they relate to others. They understand that fundamentals matter, common terms in use, what they mean and how to respond when presented with them. Yep, that's what a VSG would likely do, or at least seriously attempt.
 
newrigel said:
Man... anyone else you want to hate on today while your at it? I’ve never seen Americans so separated by political bs in my life... listen, if your not FOR the US your against us so why don’t you move somewhere where things are to your liking? I’ve seen NO adverse effects on American soil since he has become president except listening to a bunch of damn whining and bitching about hypothetical shit that simply doesn’t exist or have any direct effect on any TRUE Americans in general... sheesh man!
Get over it!
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There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's an element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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You're silly.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's an element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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The level of self delusion you're showing here is truly remarkable.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
What does this have to do with what I said? A non-politician misunderstanding a political term is a matter of ignorance...not an indication of intelligence.
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A non-politician who's been on the job for almost a year? I don't know anyone here qualified to be POTUS yet we all know what a clean bill means.

When he fucks up every other day it always "he's just joking" or "he misunderstood". He can't even get the easy ones right (aka Charlottesville) that doesn't require being a politician just a human being.

Time to admit he can't do this job
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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Curious thing is that Hillary lost. The one who brings it up on a consistent basis is Trump and the Republicans. Conway said that no one in the WH talks about Hillary and then a few hours Trump mentioned her- twice. It would seem that Trump is one intent on bringing himself down, although he isn't seemingly cognizant of the fact.

I have children and when they were young their diversions used to get what they say they wanted backfired, even though they were of a higher level than "Crooked and BAD SAD Hillary" or whatever emits from Trump at the moment. Note these weren't VSG ploys, but indeed childish. They present superior arguments these days, as do a great many other adults.

I'm afraid the guy in the Office is very bad sad.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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This from the guy who spent the previous 8 years foaming at the mouth about Obama and clinging to every possible attack vector against Hillary no matter how much evidence piled up that the investigations were partisan witch hunts.
 
fskimospy said:
Several people have already tried and you just convinced yourself they were crazy. The level of ignorance Trump is showing about basic elements of his job along with the level of policy incoherence and general instability his administration is showing should be extremely concerning to any rational and objective person.
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Shall we start a pool for the "Pockey-lips"?
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Curious thing is that Hillary lost. The one who brings it up on a consistent basis is Trump and the Republicans. Conway said that no one in the WH talks about Hillary and then a few hours Trump mentioned her- twice. It would seem that Trump is one intent on bringing himself down, although he isn't seemingly cognizant of the fact.

I have children and when they were young their diversions used to get what they say they wanted backfired, even though they were of a higher level than "Crooked and BAD SAD Hillary" or whatever emits from Trump at the moment. Note these weren't VSG ploys, but indeed childish. They present superior arguments these days, as do a great many other adults.

I'm afraid the guy in the Office is very bad sad.
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It is both funny and sad how Republicans are the ones constantly bringing up the election while claiming Democrats are the ones who can't get over it.

I imagine this is the case because deep down even they know this presidency has been a disaster. If they actually had something they could be proud of that happened in the last year they would talk about that but they don't. The election is all they have.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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I'm not afraid, I'm not even a democrat, I just can't believe the american public voted for such a moron.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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IronWing said:
You're silly.
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Perhaps so in this case, but he's not wrong in what he said. The problem with what he said in my opinion is that the point he is making is out of turn.

The issue is that Trump is mentally ill and a danger to the nation and the world and this does cause some people to fear. But I explained all that is the post of mine that got a reply DSF responded to. When you have a mad man slumped behind the wheel of a bus that is heading for a cliff it is natural the passengers will panic and experience fear, but that fear is of a rational nature. The kinds of fears that Trump plays on for political support from conservatives is irrational and insane. People with irrational and insane fear project that onto anybody and especially people whose fears are rational because they are incapable of telling the difference. A real understanding of the incapacity leads to surrender and acceptance. You cannot awaken the sleeping insane between the time they grab the steering wheel and run over the cliff. Some other force will have to intervene. Panic and fear alone will not work.

So what DSF should have done was inform newrigel that after reading my post on unconscious projection he should have first explained to him that he was actually doing that very thing. You can tell people they are projecting but because they do it unconsciously below the level of awareness they still won't see it and likely even if you point it out a second time.

The only people for whom the information that Trump fear is pointless are to people for whom the experience of that fear is rational. If you don't see that Trump is insane, you can't properly order the focus of a message. You don't tell children to look both ways if they want to play in the street at a stage where they are still young children. The message that is relevant for children is not to play in the street. Conservatives frequently have a diminished capacity to introspect. That is because they were programmed to conform by fear.
 
Moonbeam said:
This is what is known as a projection. You are irritated and have been made to feel humiliation and self hate for feeling that way so you have learned not to see yourself that way to protect your ego. Protecting ego is ego. The cure for it is humility and egotists see humility as a terrible emotional state, one they are familiar with. Once a person is unable to feel humility because of being humiliated which causes the suppression of that feeling, one wants to humiliate others and make them feel what one has learned to feel. This causes feelings like other people don't get it, that they have lesser intellectual ability when in fact the reason they do that is that they have a lesser ability to accurately judge their own capacity, to feel humility in the proper way, having no need to prove anything. This all arises out of the fact we have been forced to compete, our system is based on competition, and that creates fear, the fear one will lose and not win. So what you are doing is projecting your own fear of losing onto democrats with the thought that will humiliate them and that will make you happy. It can never do that no matter how bad they may actually feel. That's because you have a loser's mentality, you are afraid.

The facts are that Trump is a menace to the human race, a madman who is in a powerful place, and rational people with nothing much to prove can see that. He is dangerously mentally ill. But you are asleep and can't see any of this. It's a real pity you are and that because of millions of others like you he is in power, but there's nothing to be irritated about. Things are exactly as they must be and can't be any different. People have experienced extreme emotional pain as children and we don't want to remember. It's just not fair to hate people who fear pain. Who doesn't? I'm sorry you need to feel important. But people do sometimes get over this.
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Did you say something?? TLDR
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
There's a significant element of our society that cannot accept the election result and believe that that any and everything is acceptable to bring Trump down. These are people who firmly believe themselves to be rational and quite intelligent but are, in reality, well past the point of objectivity. They are afraid...and strong emotions are now driving our nation's discourse.
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You are a scared, simple little man. And the perfect fodder for the ever collapsing GOP ideology.


Suffer. Or find some sort of common humanity and decency. Your hero, St. Reagan, would be puking over what the GOP is today.
 
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Alpha One Seven said:
Did you say something?? TLDR
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I am not offended by the fact that you think my words beneath your dignity to respond to. That is my point. You have an unconscious need to deflect and it's not my responsibility. You are guilty of nothing and therefore beyond recrimination and personal responsibility. Sometimes, however, people in your condition experience events that cause them to change. Nobody knows what those conditions may be but they will likely perform something like a mirror. I have only one care, to do the best I can to help you see. I have no need for you to comprehend. It's all about a feeling of duty. I may not be worth your time in your opinion but you are worth my time to me. I can also project.
 
Moonbeam said:
I am not offended by the fact that you think my words beneath your dignity to respond to. That is my point. You have an unconscious need to deflect and it's not my responsibility. You are guilty of nothing and therefore beyond recrimination and personal responsibility. Sometimes, however, people in your condition experience events that cause them to change. Nobody knows what those conditions may be but they will likely perform something like a mirror. I have only one care, to do the best I can to help you see. I have no need for you to comprehend. It's all about a feeling of duty. I may not be worth your time in your opinion but you are worth my time to me. I can also project.
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LOL
 
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