Trump will tear Hillary apart in a debate

jihe

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There is no chance Hillary can stand up to Trump in a debate, she's too much of a politician and will try to attack him with the usual political mud slinging. However Trump is just too much of a maniac that he's practically fireproof, and will tear her a new one.
 
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There is no chance Hillary can stand up to Trump in a debate, she's too much of a politician and will try to attack him with the usual political mud slinging. However Trump is just too much of a maniac that he's practically fireproof, and will tear her a new one.

You realize this isn't a GOP primary any more right? GE voters want substance, policies. A clear plan of action. Not name calling.

To date Trump has shown zero capacity for offering anything of substance.
 

jihe

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You realize this isn't a GOP primary any more right? GE voters want substance, policies. A clear plan of action. Not name calling.

To date Trump has shown zero capacity for offering anything of substance.
You over estimate people. Aim for the lowest denomination and you'll still end up over estimating. Who really wants to know the finer details of policies? How many election policies actually get enacted anyways? People are happy with some soundbites that vaguely resemble policies. And name calling is far more effective.
 
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All HRC has to do to "win" a debate against Trump is just be the adult in the room. She did it for 10 hours straight in the Benghazi hearing, she's certainly not going to have a problem here.
 

jihe

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All HRC has to do to "win" a debate against Trump is just be the adult in the room. She did it for 10 hours straight in the Benghazi hearing, she's certainly not going to have a problem here.
I can see Sanders doing that to Trump, because Bernie actually sounds genuine. Can't see Hillary doing it though, she has too much of the 'establishment' baggage. Trump is a genuine ass bandit. He will play the outsider vs establishment line to perfection and go to town with her.
 
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Hillary's team is studying the Comedy Central Donald Trump Roast. He got pissed off that comedians were making fun of him. I watched part of it years ago, he was really getting upset. I wonder how many practice debate partners he will go thru?
 
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There is no chance Hillary can stand up to Trump in a debate, she's too much of a politician and will try to attack him with the usual political mud slinging. However Trump is just too much of a maniac that he's practically fireproof, and will tear her a new one.

because schoolyard bullying and name calling is soooo presidential and considering all the substance and tactile issues drumpf has put forth, I am sure he will come out smelling like a rose after the debates, well a rose that's rotting in some roadkill left in the sun for a few days, while being shit on by passing animals.
Yup, smelling like a rose.
 

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All HRC has to do to "win" a debate against Trump is just be the adult in the room. She did it for 10 hours straight in the Benghazi hearing, she's certainly not going to have a problem here.
I think if she takes every chance she has to respond to Trump with "Do you want that person to have access to the nuclear button?" "Do you want that person to have access to our military secrets?" "Do you want that person having access to your federal data?" Etc. Trump wouldn't stand a chance with voters who actually go off of any level of thought instead of just pure emotion.

Trump's main asset is to incite fury, anger, and emotion. He needs to focus on nothing but xenophobia and how all your problems are "their" fault. Whoever the "they" is doesn't matter. He needs to keep all thought and logic out of the picture.

Of the two, Clinton's task is far easier top maintain through an ~hour long debate.
 

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More Republican Hail Mary passes and wishful thinking. Your party is broken, it's not offering the American people anything that hasn't already failed them. Don't expect some debate miracle, or poll unskewing, or whatever to save you at the presidential level where you can't Gerrymander.
 

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I don't think Trump will do very well. She's about as seasoned a liar ...errr... politician as you're going to find. She won't be rattled that easily, and lets not forget that she's going to have the entire media to help her frame any discussion in her favor and sweep her lies/issues under the rug. I think he's toast.
 

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All HRC has to do to "win" a debate against Trump is just be the adult in the room. She did it for 10 hours straight in the Benghazi hearing, she's certainly not going to have a problem here.

I'll go with that. She's extremely cool under fire & has plenty of practice. Trump can't really get to her whereas the likelihood of the opposite looms large. It won't be difficult to provoke a temper tantrum if that's what she wants to do.
 

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Trump will be completely out of his element. I haven't seen that anyone has done so, but I'd love for someone to transcribe Trump's statements in the previous debates, and other statements in general, and do something like a Flesch–Kincaid analysis to determine the reading level (I presume there's an equivalent for speech.) In my opinion, his vocabulary seems inferior to many of my senior high school students.

edit: never mind. Carnegie Mellon did this. While most politicians speak with a lower grade vocabulary level Trump speaks at the lowest. Only GW had worse grammar, Trump and GW being between 5th and 6th grade.
https://www.cmu.edu/news/stories/archives/2016/march/speechifying.html

An earlier analysis by the Boston Globe used the Flesch-Kincaid readability test, which is based on average sentence length and average number of syllables per word, and found Trump speaking at a 4th grade level, two grade levels below his peers.
 
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HomerJS

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You over estimate people. Aim for the lowest denomination and you'll still end up over estimating. Who really wants to know the finer details of policies? How many election policies actually get enacted anyways? People are happy with some soundbites that vaguely resemble policies. And name calling is far more effective.

Everyone except the GOP base
 

Jhhnn

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I don't think Trump will do very well. She's about as seasoned a liar ...errr... politician as you're going to find. She won't be rattled that easily, and lets not forget that she's going to have the entire media to help her frame any discussion in her favor and sweep her lies/issues under the rug. I think he's toast.

Or maybe she's just eminently more qualified than Trump to be POTUS in every respect. The base didn't go with donald for any reason other than to get up in the face of their own leadership, express their discontent with the plutocracy they've voted for all these years. They seem to think that putting him at the top of the ticket will automagically overcome the effects of Repub ideology down ticket that they'll keep on voting to support.

Trump as Prez? Same Repub circus, different ringmaster.
 

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OP will be sorely disappointed. Hillary will wrap him around her finger. IMO she will act as the mother and him the child. It will piss him off to no end.
 

kage69

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I'm not entirely sure Drumpf could tear his way out of a wet paper bag, much less a real debate at the Grown Up Table.

He pissed himself like a little girl when someone tried to rush his stage. He rarely answers questions with direct answers, has no problem running away from debates, and has the paper thin emotional skin of a 6 year old. Little of what he says ventures beyond boasting, insults, or rambling disjointed anecdotes.

If you think Drumpf can debate, let alone prevail in a real one, then you are publicly admitting that you are an easily impressed brain donor. Good luck with that.
 

ivwshane

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I don't think Trump will do very well. She's about as seasoned a liar ...errr... politician as you're going to find. She won't be rattled that easily, and lets not forget that she's going to have the entire media to help her frame any discussion in her favor and sweep her lies/issues under the rug. I think he's toast.

Lol! And the rationalizing begins!
 

jihe

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I'm not entirely sure Drumpf could tear his way out of a wet paper bag, much less a real debate at the Grown Up Table.

He pissed himself like a little girl when someone tried to rush his stage. He rarely answers questions with direct answers, has no problem running away from debates, and has the paper thin emotional skin of a 6 year old. Little of what he says ventures beyond boasting, insults, or rambling disjointed anecdotes.

If you think Drumpf can debate, let alone prevail in a real one, then you are publicly admitting that you are an easily impressed brain donor. Good luck with that.

That's the point, 95% of America are easily impressed brain donors. Trump's boasting, insults, and ramblings are tailored for the 95%. American voters are not your debate team judges. Most Americans are dumb and Trump is clever enough to realize the uselessness of policies, reasons, and logic. Like it or not, the presidential elections have been giant reality TV shows for last 20 years, and which candidate has the most experience in those?