Trump warns evangelicals of 'violence' if GOP loses in the midterms

[Viper1j]

Donny is in touch with his inner Jim Jones..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/trump-evangelicals-midterms/index.html

President Donald Trump, facing scrutiny for hush money payments to a porn star and a former Playboy model, pleaded with evangelical leaders for political help during closed-door remarks on Monday, warning of dire consequences to their congregations should Republicans lose in November's midterm elections.

"This November 6 election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment. It's a referendum on so much," Trump told the assemblage of pastors and other Christian leaders gathered in the State Dining Room, according to a recording from people in the room.

"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots. "The level of hatred, the level of anger is very unbelievable."

Evangelicals have provided a solid block of support for Trump, even amid the scandals involving alleged sexual affairs. After news of those purported encounters emerged, his standing among white evangelicals did not slip. But inviting the leaders to the White House only days after the President was newly implicated by his longtime personal lawyer's guilty plea underscored the degree to which Trump is trying to keep his supporters on his side.

"You have to hopefully get out and get people to support us," Trump said. "If you don't, that will be the beginning of ending everything that you've gotten."

Trump will need to maintain that support if he hopes to help Republicans stay in power on Capitol Hill or win re-election himself in 2020. On Monday, he touted the steps he's taken to promote religious liberty, such as loosening restrictions on political speech from the pulpit, which previously could jeopardize religious institutions' tax-exempt status.

The remarks from an attendee's recording offered a more dire view of the upcoming vote than Trump has projected in public. He often trumpets an upcoming "red wave" of Republican victories, downplaying suggestions that Democrats are poised to exploit his divisiveness and retake the House or Senate.
Trump didn't mention a "red wave" on Monday, instead acknowledging that midterms often present new presidents with a turnout challenge.

"The polls might be good, but a lot of them say they are going to vote in 2020, but they're not going to vote if I'm not on a ballot," he said. "I think we're doing well, I think we're popular, but there's a real question as to whether people are going to vote if I'm not on the ballot. And I'm not on the ballot." That's a problem Trump said the evangelical leaders could help solve by galvanizing their congregations and followers to vote.
"I just ask you to go out and make sure all of your people vote. Because if they don't -- it's November 6 -- if they don't vote, we're going to have a miserable two years and we're going to have, frankly, a very hard period of time," he said.

"You're one election away from losing everything that you've gotten," he added. "Little thing: Merry Christmas, right? You couldn't say 'Merry Christmas.' "

 

[UglyCasanova]

He’s having quite the day

 

[fskimospy]

I don’t think anyone wants to go back to the eight year merry Christmas ban we suffered under Obama.

 

[Amused]

Have you ever sat and wondered how Germany slid into Nazi fascism? You're watching it happen to the USA right now. Trump is following Hitler's play book step by step. The threat of violence unless the party wins was one of Hitler's moves to cement single party rule in Germany. Just watch for Trump's version of the Reichstag fire.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

VOTE!!!

 

[Josephus312]

What would you expect from a traitor? Well, you'd expect exactly this. Trying to scare and bully people into not voting?

What a disgrace this man and ALL of his supporters are.

 

[K1052]

I had thought God warned these people about idolatry. I mean...this is a little on the nose.

 

[Josephus312]

Have you ever sat and wondered how Germany slid into Nazi fascism? You're watching it happen to the USA right now. Trump is following Hitler's play book step by step. The threat of violence unless the party wins was one of Hitler's moves to cement single party rule in Germany. Just watch for Trump's version of the Reichstag fire.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

VOTE!!!

Not really, I read up about it. Seems apt that you bring it up now that the authoritarian in chief tries to warn people how to vote by threats of violence.

 

[sportage]

Really.... violence, riots, he could only hope.
I can't tell if his comment is just sad, or humorous coming from this insecure thin skinned little man.
He takes himself way too seriously. That people would really do anything at all if republicans lost.
Makes you wonder what imaginary spooky's hidden in his closet keeps Donald awake at night?
I think he's afraid of Nancy Pelosi.

 

[soulcougher73]

I’m still amazed any religious would have anything to do with this no talent assclown.

 

[Josephus312]

I’m still amazed any religious would have anything to do with this no talent assclown.

Why? Have you ever met a religious man that could defend his beliefs in how slaves should obey their masters according to his Messiah?

They make shit up as they go along and believe that is the actual message, they don't give a flying fuck about anything but using their faith to feel better about themselves by judging others.

If you look at what they are actually doing, that is all they do, they judge others and want to have dominion over their behaviour, thoughts and even bodies.

It's like they never ever even opened a bible and read that if they do this, they will be judged themselves.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeh, Namby-pamby Libs gonna go all Neanderthal... Evangelicals need to be all skeered of that, obviously.

 

[Josephus312]

Yeh, Namby-pamby Libs gonna go all Neanderthal... Evangelicals need to be all skeered of that, obviously.

Son of a bitch, you made me spew whisky out of my nostrils and even though it hurts like hell I can't stop laughing!

 

[Vic]

So the same guy who threatened to censor the media this morning because they don't flatter him enough is now claiming to be a champion of the 1st amendment?

That is.. special.

 

[Josephus312]

So the same guy who threatened to censor the media this morning because they don't flatter him enough is now claiming to be a champion of the 1st amendment?

That is.. special.

He certainly is a special kid.... This is what happens when daddy's little rich kid is bought out of having to ride the short bus.

 

[Vic]

He certainly is a special kid.... This is what happens when daddy's little rich kid is bought out of having to ride the short bus.

I don't believe he's stupid.

 

[Josephus312]

I don't believe he's stupid.

I think that if you measured his IQ it would come back as barely qualified to be a human. I do think he's grossly unintelligent, ignorant and in every sense of the word stupid.

He's been brought up on money with handlers and even though he has had a LOT of them he insisted on some deals himself and blew every last one of them to the tune of bancrupcy. He is a fraud and a liar and you don't need intelligence to be a mythomaniac that gets bought out by Saudi and Russian banks, you just have to be a willing idiot.

One tip is that his handlers came out and said he didn't fire Comey over the Russia investigation and then this complete moron comes out and states on national television that this is exactly why he fired him.

Or how about "NK is no longer a nuclear threat"? Yah, the retard saluted a General of a hostile nation... You can bet he was told how to handle it and didn't understand what he was told.

I could spend all night just listing things that shows the man to be a fucking moron but you get the point I'm sure.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Jesus Christ, we have to worry about Muslim terrorists, Mexican Rapists and now White Christian GOP violence. I hope the Space Force can save us!!!

 

[soulcougher73]

I don't believe he's stupid.

Calling him stupid would be putting it nicely. He is way worse than stupid. Fucking retard comes to mind.

 

[cfenton]

I don't believe he's stupid.

Oh, I don't know. When I was reading this story I was in doubt that he said those things because they seemed too coherent. "This November 6 election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment. It's a referendum on so much..." That's actually a coherent statement. Usually he just repeats claims over and over again in slightly different ways. The later quotes in the story sound a lot more like his usual bluster, though.

 

[fskimospy]

This bears repeating because while I’m not saying Trump is Hitler a lot of this rhymes.

You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that thismust lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

Our country is in danger and we need the opposition to take at least one house of Congress.

 

[Atreus21]

Donny is in touch with his inner Jim Jones..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/trump-evangelicals-midterms/index.html

President Donald Trump, facing scrutiny for hush money payments to a porn star and a former Playboy model, pleaded with evangelical leaders for political help during closed-door remarks on Monday, warning of dire consequences to their congregations should Republicans lose in November's midterm elections.

"This November 6 election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment. It's a referendum on so much," Trump told the assemblage of pastors and other Christian leaders gathered in the State Dining Room, according to a recording from people in the room.

"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots. "The level of hatred, the level of anger is very unbelievable."

Evangelicals have provided a solid block of support for Trump, even amid the scandals involving alleged sexual affairs. After news of those purported encounters emerged, his standing among white evangelicals did not slip. But inviting the leaders to the White House only days after the President was newly implicated by his longtime personal lawyer's guilty plea underscored the degree to which Trump is trying to keep his supporters on his side.

"You have to hopefully get out and get people to support us," Trump said. "If you don't, that will be the beginning of ending everything that you've gotten."

Trump will need to maintain that support if he hopes to help Republicans stay in power on Capitol Hill or win re-election himself in 2020. On Monday, he touted the steps he's taken to promote religious liberty, such as loosening restrictions on political speech from the pulpit, which previously could jeopardize religious institutions' tax-exempt status.

The remarks from an attendee's recording offered a more dire view of the upcoming vote than Trump has projected in public. He often trumpets an upcoming "red wave" of Republican victories, downplaying suggestions that Democrats are poised to exploit his divisiveness and retake the House or Senate.
Trump didn't mention a "red wave" on Monday, instead acknowledging that midterms often present new presidents with a turnout challenge.

"The polls might be good, but a lot of them say they are going to vote in 2020, but they're not going to vote if I'm not on a ballot," he said. "I think we're doing well, I think we're popular, but there's a real question as to whether people are going to vote if I'm not on the ballot. And I'm not on the ballot." That's a problem Trump said the evangelical leaders could help solve by galvanizing their congregations and followers to vote.
"I just ask you to go out and make sure all of your people vote. Because if they don't -- it's November 6 -- if they don't vote, we're going to have a miserable two years and we're going to have, frankly, a very hard period of time," he said.

"You're one election away from losing everything that you've gotten," he added. "Little thing: Merry Christmas, right? You couldn't say 'Merry Christmas.' "

Wait, did he threaten violence? Or was he referring to antifa's violence?

 

[Viper1j]

Why? Have you ever met a religious man that could defend his beliefs in how slaves should obey their masters according to his Messiah?

They make shit up as they go along and believe that is the actual message, they don't give a flying fuck about anything but using their faith to feel better about themselves by judging others.

If you look at what they are actually doing, that is all they do, they judge others and want to have dominion over their behaviour, thoughts and even bodies.

It's like they never ever even opened a bible and read that if they do this, they will be judged themselves.

I was trying to think of a Commandment that Donny hasn't broken..

He's 9 of 10. As far as I know, he hasn't killed anyone.

 

[fskimospy]

Wait, did he threaten violence? Or was he referring to antifa's violence?

Oh come on.

 

[brycejones]

Wait, did he threaten violence? Or was he referring to antifa's violence?

Felix is that you?

 

[Atreus21]

Holy Cow OP. You've got a set on you my friend.

What you quoted in your OP:

"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots.

What was actually in the link from CNN:

"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa -- these are violent people," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots.

You care to explain that discrepancy? No wonder people think I'm crazy for bringing up antifa. They relied on your post, not your link.