Trump wants to air mass executions on TV.

[iRONic]

The Philippines is calling for you to go live there.

^^^ Came here to post just this.

 

[eikelbijter]

I sincerely doubt the overwhelming majority of homeless people are doing it by choice.

There are some people who are electively homeless, I used to see these shitty young kids playing homeless on Newport Ave. in OB years back but generally speaking homeless people are homeless because they can't afford a house. The reason homelessness has risen so much in CA is because the price of housing has shot up. No greater explanation needed.

Again, you're WAY oversimplifying this, in the typical American black&white way.

First of all, the terrible culture I've described has led to a HUGE increase in drug addiction, which is one of the main drivers of this increase in homeless. It might not be a choice exactly, but it definitely involves bad decisions. When you look at all the failed housing for the homeless projects here in LA you can see that a lot of this new generation of drug addicted homeless DO choose it over being housed even for free.

Bottom line, it's imperative to improve the culture to the point where most WANT to participate again.

 

[thilanliyan]

Read this yesterday and UGH. Aside from disagreeing with the death penalty under any circumstance, this is just ....I dunno a word...insane?

Errr...welcome to...2016...?
Sane people tried to warn everyone about Trump, but 50% of the US population have lost their minds apparently.

 

[fskimospy]

Again, you're WAY oversimplifying this, in the typical American black&white way.

Lol @ the arrogance.

First of all, the terrible culture I've described has led to a HUGE increase in drug addiction, which is one of the main drivers of this increase in homeless. It might not be a choice exactly, but it definitely involves bad decisions. When you look at all the failed housing for the homeless projects here in LA you can see that a lot of this new generation of drug addicted homeless DO choose it over being housed even for free.

Bottom line, it's imperative to improve the culture to the point where most WANT to participate again.

Very interesting that the huge increase in drug addiction that's currently decimating Appalachia didn't lead to a huge increase in homelessness there. Instead, homelessness shot up in high cost, coastal metros where housing prices massively increased. Care to explain why that is? Is LA culture unable to compete with the siren song of West Virginia?

In case you're interested in learning about this subject here's an article from your hometown paper.

Cause of homelessness? It's not drugs or mental illness, researchers say

A lack of affordable housing is a key factor, according to a study of the nation's major areas.

www.latimes.com

 

[Viper1j]

I did nazi that coming....

Paywall link:

Trump Plans to Bring Back Firing Squads, Group Executions if He Retakes White House

The former president wants to expand the use of the death penalty, and expand the federal government's options for carrying out death sentences.

www.rollingstone.com

Archived link

https://archive.is/Pt9Wy

Trump Plans to Bring Back Firing Squads, Group Executions if He Retakes White House

That’s the question Donald Trump repeatedly asked some close associates in the run-up to the 2024 presidential campaign, three people familiar with the situation tell Rolling Stone.
It’s not an idle inquiry: The former president, if re-elected, is still committed to expanding the use of the federal death penalty and bringing back banned methods of execution, the sources say. He has even, one of the sources recounts, mused about televising footage of executions, including showing condemned prisoners in the final moments of their lives.
snip
At an October rally — to cheers and applause from his audience — Trump pitched a form of supposed justice that has been embraced by some brutal dictatorships. “And if [the drug dealer is] guilty, they get executed and they send the bullet to the family and they want the family to pay for the cost of the bullet,” Trump said at the rally. “If you want to stop the drug epidemic in this country, you better do that…[even if] it doesn’t sound nice.”

Trump would have installed Webcams in the crematoriums at Auschwitz.

 

[eikelbijter]

Lol @ the arrogance.


Very interesting that the huge increase in drug addiction that's currently decimating Appalachia didn't lead to a huge increase in homelessness there. Instead, homelessness shot up in high cost, coastal metros where housing prices massively increased. Care to explain why that is? Is LA culture unable to compete with the siren song of West Virginia?

In case you're interested in learning about this subject here's an article from your hometown paper.

Cause of homelessness? It's not drugs or mental illness, researchers say

A lack of affordable housing is a key factor, according to a study of the nation's major areas.

www.latimes.com

I read that article when it came out. I think it misses the point, as so many around here do, and you too apparently.

Listen, a LOT of those people who have checked out from society in other places come here to LA because it's simply more feasible to actually be homeless in a big city especially with the good weather we have here. The ones with family they can stay with might stay in Appalachia. It's not that complicated.

 

[Vic]

Yeah but it's "the left" that's the violent mob.

But seriously, it has never ceases to amaze how the "small govt" crowd is always eager to use the govt to kill as many people as possible with as little legal due process as they can get away with.

 

[fskimospy]

I read that article when it came out. I think it misses the point, as so many around here do, and you too apparently.

Listen, a LOT of those people who have checked out from society in other places come here to LA because it's simply more feasible to actually be homeless in a big city especially with the good weather we have here. The ones with family they can stay with might stay in Appalachia. It's not that complicated.

Lol ok. You are immune to evidence.

 

[Vic]

I read that article when it came out. I think it misses the point, as so many around here do, and you too apparently.

Listen, a LOT of those people who have checked out from society in other places come here to LA because it's simply more feasible to actually be homeless in a big city especially with the good weather we have here. The ones with family they can stay with might stay in Appalachia. It's not that complicated.

Homelessness in big cities is the direct result of high housing demand in big cities. Likewise, the lack of homelessness in rural areas is the direct result of the glut of housing supply in rural areas.
This isn't rocket science. Because yes, if you're potentially homeless in Appalachia, the oversupply of housing there makes it practical to move in with family or friends without placing too much burden on them. Whereas that is generally not practical in the cities, due to the high cost of housing caused by the high demand for housing.
While blaming drugs for everything is stupid. In both my personal and professional life, I have encountered countless high-performing alcoholics and drug abusers.

 

[Meghan54]

Homelessness in big cities is the direct result of high housing demand in big cities. Likewise, the lack of homelessness in rural areas is the direct result of the glut of housing supply in rural areas.
This isn't rocket science. Because yes, if you're potentially homeless in Appalachia, the oversupply of housing there makes it practical to move in with family or friends with placing too much burden on them. Whereas that is generally not practical in the cities, due to high cost of housing caused by the high demand for housing.
While blaming drugs for everything is stupid. In both my personal and professional life, I have encountered countless high-performing alcoholics and drug abusers.

Amen to the last statement. I knew an anesthesiologist who was “playing around” with Innovar. Before surgery.

Innovar is a fairly powerful opioid anesthetic…fentanyl and droperidol. Amazing he didn’t kill himself or any of his patients.

 

[eikelbijter]

Lol ok. You are immune to evidence.

That's a ridiculous statement, but par for the course with you guys around here...

 

[eikelbijter]

Homelessness in big cities is the direct result of high housing demand in big cities. Likewise, the lack of homelessness in rural areas is the direct result of the glut of housing supply in rural areas.
This isn't rocket science. Because yes, if you're potentially homeless in Appalachia, the oversupply of housing there makes it practical to move in with family or friends without placing too much burden on them. Whereas that is generally not practical in the cities, due to the high cost of housing caused by the high demand for housing.
While blaming drugs for everything is stupid. In both my personal and professional life, I have encountered countless high-performing alcoholics and drug abusers.

Drugs are not the cause, they are another symptom of the same problem.

 

[gothuevos]

Didn't Trump also recently state that part of his plan to combat homelessness would be to set up literal "camps" outside of the cities where they would be sent to?

And now these statements about mass executions.

Totally normal stuff.

 

[K1052]

Didn't Trump also recently state that part of his plan to combat homelessness would be to set up literal "camps" outside of the cities where they would be sent to?

And now these statements about mass executions.

Totally normal stuff.

This was one iteration that I recall. He also tried to warehouse them in unused government buildings but many of the buildings were adjacent to rich republican areas IIRC (these do exist in big blue cities) so that plan was scrapped.

 

[Vic]

Drugs are not the cause, they are another symptom of the same problem.

Which problem?

 

[Vic]

Didn't Trump also recently state that part of his plan to combat homelessness would be to set up literal "camps" outside of the cities where they would be sent to?

And now these statements about mass executions.

Totally normal stuff.

The right-wing utopia is like Duterte's Philippines where political opposition and "undesirables" were extrajudicially executed by govt death squads because they were "drug dealers."

 

[Lanyap]

Yea right, those good ole boy patriots will be the hit squad.

I guess that’s what he meant by ‘stand back and stand by’.

 

[eikelbijter]

Which problem?

The problem is that a increasingly large part of the US population doesn't want to participate in society in the expected way. Last year there were more than 100 thousand drug overdosis deaths; that's indicative of large amounts of people looking for a way out. They don't want to do the dance anymore.

Listen, I've lived in LA for 30 years now, 20 in the same exact place. The homeless population is NOT the same it was for the first 25. In the beginning of the pandemic there was an increase of folks that did just land on hard times, whole families with kids living in tents under freeway overpasses, but those seem to have by and large been housed now. What's left, other than the "crazies" that we always had, is a huge number of people who HAVE checked out, who are largely up to no good. It's a parisitic species if you will; they are living of whatever they can beg for or steal. They don't WANT to be in housing that comes with the typical expected responsibilities; they don't want to work for peanuts and be treated like shit by their bosses AND the customers, and to some extent I understand. In my opinion, there's a HUGE problem with the way American culture treats the little guy, and this is a direct result of that.

Believe me, they tried around here, spending BILLIONS building FREE housing for them, but they end up right back on the street, because they can't do drugs there and get kicked out, or they don't want to live under whatever rules apply there. I'm not making this up, I live right in the middle of it.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Actually, Trump and I see eye-to-eye on this.

I, too, think they should bring back public execution, perhaps with the gallows. And now! I seal my fate under any future Trump regime!

I think . . . . they should execute Trump on Independence Day, for Red-state prime-time and Sesame Street year-long re-run. And they ought to make African-American Studies a required course for ANY high-school graduation, whether it's West Texas, Christian Day School, or Red-neck Florida. No graduation? No f***ing job!

I've got some other ideas, too . . . . Like using Trump's Space Force to deport them all to their home galaxy! Any galaxy!

I keep two first-aid kits in my car at all times. One for ordinary people -- the human beings. For the space aliens, a can of Ronsonol and a box of Ohio Blue-Tips.

 

[Leeea]

The problem is that a increasingly large part of the US population doesn't want to participate in society in the expected way. Last year there were more than 100 thousand drug overdosis deaths; that's indicative of large amounts of people looking for a way out. They don't want to do the dance anymore.

Listen, I've lived in LA for 30 years now, 20 in the same exact place. The homeless population is NOT the same it was for the first 25. In the beginning of the pandemic there was an increase of folks that did just land on hard times, whole families with kids living in tents under freeway overpasses, but those seem to have by and large been housed now. What's left, other than the "crazies" that we always had, is a huge number of people who HAVE checked out, who are largely up to no good. It's a parisitic species if you will; they are living of whatever they can beg for or steal. They don't WANT to be in housing that comes with the typical expected responsibilities; they don't want to work for peanuts and be treated like shit by their bosses AND the customers, and to some extent I understand. In my opinion, there's a HUGE problem with the way American culture treats the little guy, and this is a direct result of that.

Believe me, they tried around here, spending BILLIONS building FREE housing for them, but they end up right back on the street, because they can't do drugs there and get kicked out, or they don't want to live under whatever rules apply there. I'm not making this up, I live right in the middle of it.

This.

100%.

There is a certain percentage of homeless that want to be homeless. They want to shit on society and that is just it.

 

[Pohemi]

That's a ridiculous statement, but par for the course with you guys around here...

The problem is that a increasingly large part of the US population doesn't want to participate in society in the expected way....
....a huge number of people who HAVE checked out, who are largely up to no good. It's a parasitic species if you will; they are living of whatever they can beg for or steal....
....and to some extent I understand. In my opinion, there's a HUGE problem with the way American culture treats the little guy, and this is a direct result of that....
....because they can't do drugs there and get kicked out, or they don't want to live under whatever rules apply there. I'm not making this up, I live right in the middle of it.

It's funny how you blame society for getting down on the little guy and that being the cause of all the homelessness...and then proceed to call the homeless inhuman drug addicts and criminals, as if they're the entire problem because they CHOOSE to remain homeless.

It's contradictory and ridiculous. I don't care what you see near where you live in LA. Of course homelessness is a problem there, nobody is denying that much. That doesn't mean it's like that everywhere. And it isn't caused by drug addicts not wanting to stay in homes.

There is a certain percentage of homeless that want to be homeless. They want to shit on society and that is just it.

There is, but I think it's a small percentage of the total. Also, someone choosing to remain homeless doesn't automatically mean they're shitting on society, at least not intentionally. I've known people who lived in their vehicles, still went to work or at least did temp labor type work, etc.

A few different people had various reasoning for choosing to be homeless, but they all revolved around housing. High rents, shitty landlords, etc.

One guy I was acquainted with was saving up a down payment for a mortgage. The bank had told him if he got a decent down payment, they'd be able to help him get a loan. They gave him a figure of $10K. He scraped it together, and the bank then denied him for a mortgage. He took the $10K, bought a used Sprinter van and outfitted it to live in.

Anecdotal, but these are not unique circumstances.

 

[Vic]

The problem is that a increasingly large part of the US population doesn't want to participate in society in the expected way. Last year there were more than 100 thousand drug overdosis deaths; that's indicative of large amounts of people looking for a way out. They don't want to do the dance anymore.

Listen, I've lived in LA for 30 years now, 20 in the same exact place. The homeless population is NOT the same it was for the first 25. In the beginning of the pandemic there was an increase of folks that did just land on hard times, whole families with kids living in tents under freeway overpasses, but those seem to have by and large been housed now. What's left, other than the "crazies" that we always had, is a huge number of people who HAVE checked out, who are largely up to no good. It's a parisitic species if you will; they are living of whatever they can beg for or steal. They don't WANT to be in housing that comes with the typical expected responsibilities; they don't want to work for peanuts and be treated like shit by their bosses AND the customers, and to some extent I understand. In my opinion, there's a HUGE problem with the way American culture treats the little guy, and this is a direct result of that.

Believe me, they tried around here, spending BILLIONS building FREE housing for them, but they end up right back on the street, because they can't do drugs there and get kicked out, or they don't want to live under whatever rules apply there. I'm not making this up, I live right in the middle of it.

Why are we discussing human beings that you consider to be parasites in a thread about the former POTUS wanting to open up the floodgates of executions?

 

[Vic]

This.

100%.

There is a certain percentage of homeless that want to be homeless. They want to shit on society and that is just it.

Well, facing a harsh reality that society doesn't give a flying F if you die out in the cold does tend to turn people off on society, I'd imagine.

It is irrational IMO to expect people who have been cast out by society to continue to abide by the social contract.

 

[Leeea]

Well, facing a harsh reality that society doesn't give a flying F if you die out in the cold does tend to turn people off on society, I'd imagine.

It is irrational IMO to expect people who have been cast out by society to continue to abide by the social contract.

Perhaps, but then we just need to house those types in a facility with bars on the windows.


Either use the public accommodations made available, or be forced to. Shelter has been provided. Transportation has been provided. Food has been provided. A monthly stipend is provided.


If they still need to shit on my lawn, bath in my pool, and dump their diseased needles where other people have to deal with it just lock them up until they either die or decide to conform.

Either take the handouts or take the prison cell.



To be fair, the police have cleaned the up the area recently and all but eliminated the problem. Just a lingering anger on my part at this point.

 

[Moonbeam]

Well, facing a harsh reality that society doesn't give a flying F if you die out in the cold does tend to turn people off on society, I'd imagine.

It is irrational IMO to expect people who have been cast out by society to continue to abide by the social contract.

Hell, I depend on them. I got a job from a company who hired me over a woman who became homeless because I was willing to work 16 hours a day and she couldn't because she needed to take care of her kids. Thank God the social contract is written for soulless drones, I mean, for people with drive and ambition.