Trump unloads a racist attack against Somalis in Minnesota

[hal2kilo]

We can stop pretending that Republicans give 2 shits about fraud and drugs as Trump pardons every rich grifter and drug cartel leader under the sun.

Notice how even Dem polls are getting reprieved. Can't throw politicians in jail for obvious self serving reasons. I guess Menendez hasn't cough up enough compensation yet.
The blatant corruption is so corrosive to democratic rule.

 

[brycejones]

Notice how even Dem polls are getting reprieved. Can't throw politicians in jail for obvious self serving reasons. I guess Menendez hasn't cough up enough compensation yet.
The blatant corruption is so corrosive to democratic rule.

Fox is celebrating the latest pardon as a nightmare being over. Fox News where accountability for politicians is a “nightmare “

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Better for who, exactly?

- Well not the Somali's that get shipped back to Somalia (or wherever honestly, Trump'd probably send them to Haiti to save a buck).

I think they're referring to the fact that immigrants commit crimes at far lower rates than the population as a whole. If you're referring to the economy improving, you can also thank immigrants since a declining population would hurt it.

- Agreed, Immigrants 100% are the life blood of the country and by their very nature are self-starters and not risk averse, two character traits Americans really value.

Nevertheless, Trump has to do something, and then something tangibly bad has to result from it (Somali's get deported, local businesses or factories where Somali population lived shut down or terminally understaffed) before it's worth getting mad about.

If the bad stuff never happens, or is offset by good stuff happening (say a lot of housing opens up and home prices fall), then I guess the Somali's were not "adding value" to the community in the way that it is being argued.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm just outraged he would refer to a congresswoman like Omar and her constituents the way he did. I can be proudly outraged and ashamed of this presidency, the criminal himself, his entourage and the most extreme people in his base.

"Those people" are not going to make America "Great Again". There's nothing great about them.

 

[UNCjigga]

Yep, there was a lot of fraud in Washington state, but the majority of it probably went to white people so, I don't know if they will go after us. Both our previous AG, who's now governor and the current AG, fight Trump policy as much as possible so, we could still end up being a target too. Being blue always helps.

Oh I’ve heard some firsthand tales of the Covid gravy train and politicians getting their kickbacks. Yes—I’m absolutely positive it happened on “both sides” at every level (federal/state/local) but I heard one story from someone directly impacted. Said person (let’s call him “Bob”) is a MAGA loyalist in a red state who owns a healthcare supply business and made some significant investments during COVID in PPE and oxygen supply.

Bob was awarded a massive state contract to provide PPE and other services for the entire state health system (state university hospitals and other public clinics) in May of 2020. It was going to transform his business overnight and he took on loans, ordered supplies and hired additional staff to get ready for implementation. Three days before it was to go into effect, Bob found out that the governor had personally intervened to rescind his contract and award it to a friend of his—with a smaller business that had very little experience in the sector. Bob also heard through mutual friends that he was SOL—and if he sued he’d be blackballed from doing any work with the state ever again. Bob kept his mouth shut and eventually won a smaller contract with the state health system many months later. Bob is still a Republican, still votes GOP straight ticket but now tells everyone and their mother that the governor is a “crook”.

 

[Brainonska511]

Oh I’ve heard some firsthand tales of the Covid gravy train and politicians getting their kickbacks. Yes—I’m absolutely positive it happened on “both sides” at every level (federal/state/local) but I heard one story from someone directly impacted. Said person (let’s call him “Bob”) is a MAGA loyalist in a red state who owns a healthcare supply business and made some significant investments during COVID in PPE and oxygen supply.

Bob was awarded a massive state contract to provide PPE and other services for the entire state health system (state university hospitals and other public clinics) in May of 2020. It was going to transform his business overnight and he took on loans, ordered supplies and hired additional staff to get ready for implementation. Three days before it was to go into effect, Bob found out that the governor had personally intervened to rescind his contract and award it to a friend of his—with a smaller business that had very little experience in the sector. Bob also heard through mutual friends that he was SOL—and if he sued he’d be blackballed from doing any work with the state ever again. Bob kept his mouth shut and eventually won a smaller contract with the state health system many months later. Bob is still a Republican, still votes GOP straight ticket but now tells everyone and their mother that the governor is a “crook”.

I'm reading this book on soldiers in the Civil War right now, and this attitude reminds me a lot of some of their stories. Specifically, Union soldiers who were Democrats, and would never renounce their party membership, but would get quietly fed up with Copperhead Democrats who were undermining the war - with the words coming out as they wrote home to their families or discussed politics with their peers.

The more things change, the more some things stay the same.

 

[Indus]

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m74fsnkrls2w

She's gonna be a martyr isn't she?

 

[pete6032]

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m74fsnkrls2w

She's gonna be a martyr isn't she?

Ilhan Omar?

 

[NWRMidnight]

- The "economy" being hurt needs to have practical consequences. What does "economy" being hurt mean if most people have their jobs, their retirement keeps looking better, but they have to pay more for food (which is obfuscated by the tariffs as well)?

Remember the "vibe" economy that killed Biden's chances (everyone's pocketbook looked good, but they had bad vibes about the economy)? If Trump has people feeling good about their pocket books and feeling good about the general "vibe" then the facts on the ground don't matter.


- Yes, but the President takes credit. AI has been fueling the stock market since 2023. It "saved" Biden's ass from headline inflation (insofar as having something positive to point to) and now it's saving Trump's ass from his comically poor leadership.


- Yeah, you seem to have me confused for some Trump humper just because I'm not rabid and foaming at the mouth on anything Trump related. I've said that Biden will be remembered fondly by history for relatively gracefully handling a totally fucked economic situation that was going to hurt whomever was President (supply line's being utterly fucked post pandemic).


- Yes, and what I am saying is that recession/depression better show up otherwise a lot of folks are going to have egg on their face. Just like Tariffs were supposed to lead to crazy double digit inflation but companies unexpectedly actually ended up eating a bunch of the cost increases and consumers were relatively shielded from the effect, with headline inflation at ~3%.


- That is what this is about, if we deport illegals and the economy shrinks in tandem, then we can find ourselves in a situation where the effect isn't as broadly felt as people are predicting it will be. If the negative effects don't materialize, its hard to run around screaming the sky is falling.

You are way off base of what you where talking about: this what you said, that I was responding too, in which you brought up your retirement investments:

Eh, the proof will be in the pudding.

If he deports everyone and stuff actually gets better... Oh shit what then?

Now, your last sentence still doesn't address what you said, and again, the stock market has NOTHING to do with it, in fact, your response shows just how ignorant you are about immigration, and the effect deporting them all would have on the country. A shrinking economy because of no immigration is not a good thing. Maybe do some research on what takes place when a country is faced with a shrinking economy. The negative effects are already being felt around the country, yet you are so ignorant you don't see it. Also a shrinking economy is not a good thing. Not at all. The stock market would crash, your investments would be gone. Jobs gone, unemployment rises, wages decrease.. the list goes on.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

You are way off base of what you where talking about: this what you said, that I was responding too, in which you brought up your retirement investments:



Now, your last sentence still doesn't address what you said, and again, the stock market has NOTHING to do with it, in fact, your response shows just how ignorant you are about immigration, and the effect deporting them all would have on the country. A shrinking economy because of no immigration is not a good thing. Maybe do some research on what takes place when a country is faced with a shrinking economy. The negative effects are already being felt around the country, yet you are so ignorant you don't see it. Also a shrinking economy is not a good thing. Not at all. The stock market would crash, your investments would be gone. Jobs gone, unemployment rises, wages decrease.. the list goes on.

-Yes, that needs to actually happen. What I'm saying is we keep hearing about how everything is going to shit and I'm just here having a cup of eggnogg.

The most immediately perceptible negative effect I have experienced is a generalized increase in food prices. Beef was headed down at the end of 2024 and now it's back up to old highs.

Just burning out on all the screaching while my own lived experience doesn't align. As the negative effects of Trump's policies grow, so will my outrage.

 

[John1234.]

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America 2025. Officially a racist country. By law and by deed

I'm sorry but we were more racist in the past. History backs that up. We continue to try and right that wrong but we are along way from justice.I am sorry any injustice you have suffered Homer. I am fighting for you.I remember the 60's in the south.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm just outraged he would refer to a congresswoman like Omar and her constituents the way he did. I can be proudly outraged and ashamed of this presidency, the criminal himself, his entourage and the most extreme people in his base.

"Those people" are not going to make America "Great Again". There's nothing great about them.

But what if the moral characteristics by which you separate and define the good from the bad, the criminal, the extreme, are determined by and fixed into one’s character by the cumulative effects of various impact sustained as a result of life experiences. If impacts can have a positive or negative effect colored by an emotional attitude toward the nature of impacts experienced previously, such that negative experiences experience inversely impact the perceptions of new ones, then the attitude and character of the people you define as nothing great about them could be imagined as the result of a kind of Galton’s box where the more negative experiences pile up the more they affirm perpetuate and confirm a negative view.

This would imply, seems to me, that the more difficult, harsh, stressful, the environment one was born and develop in, the worse the character produced in your idea os bad, people would grow up with. A further implication, if we make the broad categorical statement that all people are created equal, the more obvious it becomes that you are what you eat, in the sense that your world view is self affirming according to the experiences by which you were conditioned.

How then do you hold in contempt people who are contemptuous in your opinion when their life experiences and not some inner character flaw made them how they are. My guess is that a your own personal experiences made you that way. As long as you admit to no self control over how negatively you wish to see the world, the less the difference between you and them when it comes to having excuses for why you are entitled to blame.

We have all been fucked and there is nobody to blame. The world is exactly as it has to be. The great secret, the truth denied, the simple joy and wonder of it all is that is that it doesn’t have to be other than as it is. This is a mystery and a state of consciousness anybody can experience.

 

[HomerJS]

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I'm sorry but we were more racist in the past. History backs that up. We continue to try and right that wrong but we are along way from justice.I am sorry any injustice you have suffered Homer. I am fighting for you.I remember the 60's in the south.

That may be true but since Trump has come on the political scene we've moved back towards those times. Its now law people can be arrested based on how they look.

Look at the picture of ICE abusing not only immigrants but residents and citizens, almost exclusively people of color.

Go look at the pictures of police turning dogs and fire hoses on black people back in the 60s. We not only have that again, but the President of the United States regularly engages in open racist rhetoric. Giving a permission structure for his followers to do the same.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

That may be true but since Trump has come on the political scene we've moved back towards those times. Its now law people can be arrested based on how they look.

Look at the picture of ICE abusing not only immigrants but residents and citizens, almost exclusively people of color.

Go look at the pictures of police turning dogs and fire hoses on black people back in the 60s. We not only have that again, but the President of the United States regularly engages in open racist rhetoric. Giving a permission structure for his followers to do the same.

Let's say we might call it "hypocrisy" that we lived so many decades where the ideal seemed to exist on the surface and the people of our "Dark Side" lived in the shades and under the rocks. So now the cat is out of the bag.

How do we get back to the way things were? So that we actually believed that greater progress had been made? So that people are no longer normalized to a Lunatic and Racist in the White House? I'd rather accept and acknowledge a level of the hypocrisy, than to daily face Trump and his Base as indicative of an American underbelly turned up to face the light.

The actions of the Judicial system involve human labor. This is costing the country a lot of money, as the Criminal attempts to test the system and obstruct its progress at every turn. Those changes or orders in which he has actually succeeded -- for instance, turning the Smithsonian upside down and attempting to purge our history -- will all involve a cost to fix in his wake.

I only hope the history books of 20 to 50 years from now actually reflect the damage of these times.

 

[hal2kilo]

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m74fsnkrls2w

She's gonna be a martyr isn't she?

So there are ruins everywhere?

 

[feralkid]

So there are ruins everywhere?

Ignore him. He's never met a Muslim he doesn't already hate

 

[nOOky]

I've already heard 2 or 3 people at work whining about the Somalians, my employer is in Minnesota. I simply ask them at what point the Somalian invasion became an issue for them, was it several years ago, or only when Trump told you they were bad hombres? You can imagine their reactions. There is literally zero Somalian presence outside of the twin cities in Minnesota and the suburbs.

 

[DZero]

I've already heard 2 or 3 people at work whining about the Somalians, my employer is in Minnesota. I simply ask them at what point the Somalian invasion became an issue for them, was it several years ago, or only when Trump told you they were bad hombres? You can imagine their reactions. There is literally zero Somalian presence outside of the twin cities in Minnesota and the suburbs.

So... is just an excuse to cause chaos on there then.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

So... is just an excuse to cause chaos on there then.

Is Somali cuisine like Ethiopian cuisine? I'd had the latter in a Washington DC restaurant. Very nice.

If I had a lot of money, I would invest toward establishing Afghan, Somali, Mexican, Indian or beloved patriot restaurants in the towns of red counties and red states. I'd establish a "Pinkerton" agency for the security of those establishments.

Here's a bumper sticker: "Replace any MAGA with any human being"

And another: "Replace Donald Trump with Ilhan Omar"

 

[outriding]

Ignore him. He's never met a Muslim he doesn't already hate

* unless they give him a free plane

 

[Indus]

Ignore him. He's never met a Muslim he doesn't already hate

As much as I'd love to agree.. the truth is if he meets with muslims personally, the US and he are getting money.

If he meets with Jews, the US is giving money away.

What was that he said about Sheikh Mansour.. he has a lot of money??

 

[NWRMidnight]

-Yes, that needs to actually happen. What I'm saying is we keep hearing about how everything is going to shit and I'm just here having a cup of eggnogg.

The most immediately perceptible negative effect I have experienced is a generalized increase in food prices. Beef was headed down at the end of 2024 and now it's back up to old highs.

Just burning out on all the screaching while my own lived experience doesn't align. As the negative effects of Trump's policies grow, so will my outrage.

Wow! Your ignorance is blinding.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Wow! Your ignorance is blinding.

-Thanks

 

[HomerJS]

I've already heard 2 or 3 people at work whining about the Somalians, my employer is in Minnesota. I simply ask them at what point the Somalian invasion became an issue for them, was it several years ago, or only when Trump told you they were bad hombres? You can imagine their reactions. There is literally zero Somalian presence outside of the twin cities in Minnesota and the suburbs.

Classic brainwashing.

 

[DZero]

Classic brainwashing.

Now it's is failing and since Trump sent the army to certain places, is likely to happen on those places too