Trump University - a fraud according to students

[fskimospy]

No, he didn't commit fraud. He allegedly committed fraud.

He just paid thousands of people millions of dollars because they brought suit against him for committing fraud. I couldn't care less how you try to deflect from that.

I guess english/law isn't a strong suit of yours either, much like statistics.

It must be even more embarrassing that someone whose strong suit isn't statistics still knows so much more about it than you do then huh? Hahaha.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Bill Clinton didn't make those claims, unlike Trump. That's why Trump had to pay out tens of millions of dollars in settlements for fraud and Clinton didn't.

Think about that. The president elect just had to pay thousands of people millions of dollars because he committed massive fraud against them. The corruption is just starting too I bet, haha.

Poor LK and his fellow Trump supporters. Must be tough to deal with real actual wrongdoing vs Trumped up Clinton witch hunts.

Trump also vowed for years he would not settle any of the lawsuits. “I could have settled this case numerous times,” he told supporters at a campaign rally on May 27. “But I don’t want to settle cases when we are right.” For years on Twitter, Trump played up every procedural success as a stunning victory, claimed without evidence that Schneiderman had launched the investigation for political reasons, and forecast a triumph that never came.

"Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!" - 2:48 PM - 29 Feb 2016

"Lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman sued school with a 98% approval rating while billions in corruption goes unpunished. A total crook?" - 6:17 PM - 18 Sep 2013

"I hope the NY tax payer appreciates the millions Schneiderman is about to waste on a small case. I will litigate to victory." - 1:05 PM - 26 Aug 2013
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Friday’s settlement does not end the legal battles surrounding Trump University: Two separate class-action lawsuits by former customers are also under way in federal court in California, with one scheduled to begin a jury trial next week. Those cases rose to national prominence this summer after Trump accused Judge Gonzalo Curiel of handing down biased rulings against him because Curiel is “a Mexican.” (Curiel is from Indiana.) Recent reports suggest a similar settlement could be imminent in those cases as well.

Lets file this under "shit that would never happen to Obama"

 

[fskimospy]

Poor LK and his fellow Trump supporters. Must be tough to deal with real actual wrongdoing vs Trumped up Clinton witch hunts.

Trump also vowed for years he would not settle any of the lawsuits. “I could have settled this case numerous times,” he told supporters at a campaign rally on May 27. “But I don’t want to settle cases when we are right.” For years on Twitter, Trump played up every procedural success as a stunning victory, claimed without evidence that Schneiderman had launched the investigation for political reasons, and forecast a triumph that never came.

"Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!" - 2:48 PM - 29 Feb 2016

"Lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman sued school with a 98% approval rating while billions in corruption goes unpunished. A total crook?" - 6:17 PM - 18 Sep 2013

"I hope the NY tax payer appreciates the millions Schneiderman is about to waste on a small case. I will litigate to victory." - 1:05 PM - 26 Aug 2013
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Friday’s settlement does not end the legal battles surrounding Trump University: Two separate class-action lawsuits by former customers are also under way in federal court in California, with one scheduled to begin a jury trial next week. Those cases rose to national prominence this summer after Trump accused Judge Gonzalo Curiel of handing down biased rulings against him because Curiel is “a Mexican.” (Curiel is from Indiana.) Recent reports suggest a similar settlement could be imminent in those cases as well.

Lets file this under "shit that would never happen to Obama"

It is kind of amazing to see America going from one of the most thoughtful and intelligent presidents in history to an emotionally unstable con man.

On the other hand you know the scandals are going to be pretty entertaining. Not only is Trump already obviously corrupt, he can't let anything drop so he's going to go down swinging.

 

[LegendKiller]

He just paid thousands of people millions of dollars because they brought suit against him for committing fraud. I couldn't care less how you try to deflect from that.



It must be even more embarrassing that someone whose strong suit isn't statistics still knows so much more about it than you do then huh? Hahaha.

He didn't commit fraud, he allegedly did. It isn't deflecting, it is fact.

 

[LegendKiller]

Poor LK and his fellow Trump supporters. Must be tough to deal with real actual wrongdoing vs Trumped up Clinton witch hunts.

Trump also vowed for years he would not settle any of the lawsuits. “I could have settled this case numerous times,” he told supporters at a campaign rally on May 27. “But I don’t want to settle cases when we are right.” For years on Twitter, Trump played up every procedural success as a stunning victory, claimed without evidence that Schneiderman had launched the investigation for political reasons, and forecast a triumph that never came.

"Trump University has a 98% approval rating. I could have settled but won't out of principle!" - 2:48 PM - 29 Feb 2016

"Lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman sued school with a 98% approval rating while billions in corruption goes unpunished. A total crook?" - 6:17 PM - 18 Sep 2013

"I hope the NY tax payer appreciates the millions Schneiderman is about to waste on a small case. I will litigate to victory." - 1:05 PM - 26 Aug 2013
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Friday’s settlement does not end the legal battles surrounding Trump University: Two separate class-action lawsuits by former customers are also under way in federal court in California, with one scheduled to begin a jury trial next week. Those cases rose to national prominence this summer after Trump accused Judge Gonzalo Curiel of handing down biased rulings against him because Curiel is “a Mexican.” (Curiel is from Indiana.) Recent reports suggest a similar settlement could be imminent in those cases as well.

Lets file this under "shit that would never happen to Obama"

How was it wrongdoing? He admitted no wrongdoing. Companies settle all of the time.

 

[fskimospy]

He didn't commit fraud, he allegedly did. It isn't deflecting, it is fact.

Of course it's a deflection. You aren't fooling anyone. It's just like when big banks pay out huge settlements without admitting wrongdoing. Nobody is fooled then either.

One thing to note is that despite this massive payout his legal troubles over his scam university are far from over. He's still facing multiple class action lawsuits over his scam university.

 

[jackstar7]

How was it wrongdoing? He admitted no wrongdoing. Companies settle all of the time.

Cite the last time someone you disagree with politically settled a lawsuit and you put forth these same sentiments.

We've all got the time to wait for you.

 

[Meghan54]

How was it wrongdoing? He admitted no wrongdoing. Companies settle all of the time.

So, by your standards, Bill Clinton admitted to doing nothing wrong and so did nothing wrong as alleged by Paula Jones when Bill settled the Paula Jones lawsuit, right?

 

[Thump553]

He didn't commit fraud, he allegedly did. It isn't deflecting, it is fact.

The only difference is that it wasn't proven in court, Trump gave up $25,000,000 in order to prevent from going to trial in this case-and he is still facing two similar trials. Hardly a nuisance settlement. If you think Trump-who was trained by Roy Cohn, his guru back in the 1970s to litigate everything to the bitter end, tossed in this big money for his convenience, so be it. Trump supporters are pretty well known to totally disregard reality and facts.

 

[thraashman]

No, he didn't commit fraud. He allegedly committed fraud.

I guess english/law isn't a strong suit of yours either, much like statistics.

I'm sure you'll be defending Hillary when people claim she did stuff despite the fact that she wasn't even charged, let alone convicted, and that she has had no lawsuits brought against her and settled. I'm sure you'll jump to use "allegedly" in regards to claims against her too.

 

[LegendKiller]

The only difference is that it wasn't proven in court, Trump gave up $25,000,000 in order to prevent from going to trial in this case-and he is still facing two similar trials. Hardly a nuisance settlement. If you think Trump-who was trained by Roy Cohn, his guru back in the 1970s to litigate everything to the bitter end, tossed in this big money for his convenience, so be it. Trump supporters are pretty well known to totally disregard reality and facts.

And? How much did Wal Mart gift up to Tracy Morgan despite a lot of evidence that the extent of his wounds were not nearly as grievous as indicated. Seems like insurance companies are trying to claw back, should be interesting.

What's the PR nightmare worth to Wal Mart, or even now a President Elect. $25mm is a small pittance for him, especially to be able to move beyond.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

And? How much did Wal Mart gift up to Tracy Morgan despite a lot of evidence that the extent of his wounds were not nearly as grievous as indicated. Seems like insurance companies are trying to claw back, should be interesting.

What's the PR nightmare worth to Wal Mart, or even now a President Elect. $25mm is a small pittance for him, especially to be able to move beyond.

We understand that no amount of reality based evidence will make you confront the error of your ways.

But thank-you for reminding us why.

 

[LegendKiller]

We understand that no amount of reality based evidence will make you confront the error of your ways.

But thank-you for reminding us why.

Meh, enormity of crimes is relative. Compared to the pay for play of the alternative, what he did was nothing. I hate for-profits all around.

 

[brycejones]

And? How much did Wal Mart gift up to Tracy Morgan despite a lot of evidence that the extent of his wounds were not nearly as grievous as indicated. Seems like insurance companies are trying to claw back, should be interesting.

What's the PR nightmare worth to Wal Mart, or even now a President Elect. $25mm is a small pittance for him, especially to be able to move beyond.

More diversion. Has nothing to do with Trump and his trumped up "university".

 

[brycejones]

Meh, enormity of crimes is relative. Compared to the pay for play of the alternative, what he did was nothing. I hate for-profits all around.

So let's be clear here. Allegations against the Clintons are facts because they have been made (not even an attempt at litigating them) yet allegations against Trump are not facts because they have not been litigated and determined to be true in a court of law.

Wow, the mental gymnastics you go through on a daily basis to keep your distorted view of reality in order.

 

[LegendKiller]

So let's be clear here. Allegations against the Clintons are facts because they have been made (not even an attempt at litigating them) yet allegations against Trump are not facts because they have not been litigated and determined to be true in a court of law.

Wow, the mental gymnastics you go through on a daily basis to keep your distorted view of reality in order.

Both will never see the day in court, thus, any discussion is purely theoretical. Theoretically speaking, yes.

 

[jackstar7]

Meh, enormity of crimes is relative. Compared to the pay for play of the alternative, what he did was nothing. I hate for-profits all around.

So you're ignoring the pay-for-play of Trump? Is that it?

Also, thoughts on Pam Bondi?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Man the deflectors are at full power and he's still wanting more LOL

 

[agent00f]

Just a heads up for everyone that LegendKiller et al don't actually care if Trump is a crook or not as long as he brings about the greater vision of a christian ethnocentric america. They'll be first in line for any newly created good jobs to register muslims or whatever it takes to get there.

Leftists are just falling into the trap of assuming others share virtues like integrity or modern liberal-democratic ideals like plurality, and also the tactic trap of arguing with a cheerleader.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

He didn't commit fraud, he allegedly did. It isn't deflecting, it is fact.

like he allegedly paid 25 million in non-guilty money. bubble boy speaks again.

 

[Charmonium]

Just a heads up for everyone that LegendKiller et al don't actually care if Trump is a crook or not as long as he brings about the greater vision of a christian ethnocentric america. They'll be first in line for any newly created good jobs to register muslims or whatever it takes to get there.

Leftists are just falling into the trap of assuming others share virtues like integrity or modern liberal-democratic ideals like plurality, and also the tactic trap of arguing with a cheerleader.

That's probably unduly charitable. Every Trump supporter I've run across seems to mirror the inability of their leader to ever concede any point on any issue ever, regardless of how small or insignificant. Even in the face of mathematical proof to the contrary, they'll argue until their fingers bleed that they're right and you're on drugs. If they could at least admit the obvious like the racist bent of people like Bannon, maybe I could pay attention to some of the other things they have to say. But like the Donald, when 70% of what they say is bullshit or mostly bullshit, it sort of removes the incentive to even make the effort.

 

[agent00f]

That's probably unduly charitable. Every Trump supporter I've run across seems to mirror the inability of their leader to ever concede any point on any issue ever, regardless of how small or insignificant. Even in the face of mathematical proof to the contrary, they'll argue until their fingers bleed that they're right and you're on drugs. If they could at least admit the obvious like the racist bent of people like Bannon, maybe I could pay attention to some of the other things they have to say. But like the Donald, when 70% of what they say is bullshit or mostly bullshit, it sort of removes the incentive to even make the effort.

In fairness that dying loyalty and stubbornness are virtues for certain roles; though not coincidentally often roles serving under strong leaders no matter how dirty/unsavory the job.

 

[TeeJay1952]

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/10/trumps-voter-suppression-operation-project-alamo/
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7

I feel like Skank Hunt 47

 

[LegendKiller]

That's probably unduly charitable. Every Trump supporter I've run across seems to mirror the inability of their leader to ever concede any point on any issue ever, regardless of how small or insignificant. Even in the face of mathematical proof to the contrary, they'll argue until their fingers bleed that they're right and you're on drugs. If they could at least admit the obvious like the racist bent of people like Bannon, maybe I could pay attention to some of the other things they have to say. But like the Donald, when 70% of what they say is bullshit or mostly bullshit, it sort of removes the incentive to even make the effort.

Have I conceded that I don't like *any* for profit school? Yes. Have I conceded that there could have been fraud? Yes. Some people liked the class a lot, others did not.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm thinking that these two LK quotes are going to be used in answer to many, many of his posts.

He didn't commit fraud, he allegedly did. It isn't deflecting, it is fact.

How was it wrongdoing? He admitted no wrongdoing. Companies settle all of the time.