Trump unaware his NSA was a foreign agent

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crashtech

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Link does not support an assertion that Turkey is a "hostile government." It would be like me asserting that Saudi Arabia is our enemy, which is true on some levels, yet they remain our ally.

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I'll add that in general, lobbying on behalf of a NATO ally will not be automatically seen as working against the interests of the US, quite the opposite in fact. It's influence peddling, sure, but in the name of strengthening a military alliance, which is most often seen as a good thing. (Not by be, I'm a recovering hawk)
 
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Thebobo

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I want to rage but because of all the other raging at trump I'm low on rage.

Any know here I can get bulk Rage?
 

sdifox

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I guess Invasion : Iran is happening next week.
 
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zinfamous

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Well, that'd be one way to divert attention from the shit show currently masquerading as a presidential administration.

This is the worrisome thing, right now. How long before we get some breaking news with Orange Julius raging over his podium claiming that Iran has blown up a US ship or Pakistan has launched a nuclear missile at India (does Trump even know that there is a country called Pakistan? this would shock me).

And you know it is in the Bannon playbook. Not as an option, but as part of their current "100 day" to first year protocol. And they are going to do this. it will happen. And at that point, who is going to be listening and trusting anything this man says? And even though no one will believe him--will it matter?
 

thraashman

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So much to rage about, so little time.
And to think, in a previous administration the things to rage about were so rare people had to rage that the President was black but hide it as other things so as to not be visibly raging about the same thing for 8 years.
 

Moonbeam

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It's not just indirect connections, but here is yet another story published on a previously-published story regarding Trump's rather direct connections to the ultra-corrupt Azerbaijani Mammadov criminal family and, by direct proxy, the Iranian Republican guard. Yep--that Iranian Republican guard. Trump was at the RNC and on the campaign trail complaining about bad deals with Iran, Iranian missels, bad Iranian hombres, all the while funneling money directly to the Ayatollah.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

what a fucking piece of shit Trump is--just like his willful supporters.

I'll say this though--it direct treason like paying off Iranians with weapons didn't end Reagan, I'm not sure if it will mean anything for Trump. I guess it depends on the willingness of republicans to stick up for this orange ventriloquist's dummy sitting at the head of their tent.
Democrats are the Great Satan. What is immoral fighting against God becomes moral when applied to the Devil. Clearly you don't understand the rules.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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And the story changes from, we didn't know to, ah yes, we did actually know, but Trump himself didn't know. I guess because they didn't deem it important enough to, you know, tell him.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-consulting-firm/index.html

Let's see how many more versions of this we'll get to hear. It's all very entertaining.

Considering that Trump is so concerned about national security that the daily briefing sheet is one page with 5 bullet point it could be that Trump couldn't handle a sixth issue.
 

woolfe9998

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Considering that Trump is so concerned about national security that the daily briefing sheet is one page with 5 bullet point it could be that Trump couldn't handle a sixth issue.

Nah, I doubt that. Flynn has been a close adviser and friend of Trump's since late 2015. I find it hard to believe that neither Flynn nor anyone else ever mentioned that Flynn was being paid a half a million dollars per month to lobby for Turkey. It's possible, but not likely.

And it's a pattern with this administration. "No one in my campaign has ever spoken to a Russian official." Two weeks later: "Oh wait, except for these 5 people." "We never pressured the RNC to change its platform to favor Russia." "Oh wait, except for that one time we did." This is the administration's MO. Deny everything until something becomes impossible to deny, then admit only as much as is absolutely necessary.
 

trenchfoot

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Nah, I doubt that. Flynn has been a close adviser and friend of Trump's since late 2015. I find it hard to believe that neither Flynn nor anyone else ever mentioned that Flynn was being paid a half a million dollars per month to lobby for Turkey. It's possible, but not likely.

And it's a pattern with this administration. "No one in my campaign has ever spoken to a Russian official." Two weeks later: "Oh wait, except for these 5 people." "We never pressured the RNC to change its platform to favor Russia." "Oh wait, except for that one time we did." This is the administration's MO. Deny everything until something becomes impossible to deny, then admit only as much as is absolutely necessary.

May I be the first to suggest that every single slithering snake that Trump scooped out of the swamp he was supposed to drain but instead used them to fill his cabinet positions with, be required to have lie detectors permanently attached to their persons so we wouldn't have the need to guess whether they're lying or not? This requirement would be most closely monitored during confirmation hearings where it seems most of Trump's picks have a habit of misunderstanding the questions they're being asked or have a serious case of mouth farts where gas in their digestive tracts work its way into their brains and then exiting their mouths, with a side effect of causing serious but very conveniently timed memory lapses.

Of course, Trump wouldn't need one attached to him because it's safe to assume that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie anyway. ;)
 

woolfe9998

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May I be the first to suggest that every single slithering snake that Trump scooped out of the swamp he was supposed to drain but instead used them to fill his cabinet positions with, be required to have lie detectors permanently attached to their persons so we wouldn't have the need to guess whether they're lying or not? This requirement would be most closely monitored during confirmation hearings where it seems most of Trump's picks have a habit of misunderstanding the questions they're being asked or have a serious case of mouth farts where gas in their digestive tracts work its way into their brains and then exiting their mouths, with a side effect of causing serious but very conveniently timed memory lapses.

Of course, Trump wouldn't need one attached to him because it's safe to assume that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie anyway. ;)

Haha, too bad lie detectors work barely better than chance.

At this point, I just want to see Trump's tax records. They're going to show extensive undisclosed business ties with Russia, at a minimum. I'd bet a lot of money on it. Never been more certain of anything.
 

emperus

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Lying is second nature to these people. It's obvious how much respect they have for or how highly they think of their electorate.
 

Thump553

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Please correct the thread title, it is misleading. It should read "Trump CLAIMS he was unaware that his NSA was a foreign agent" or to be entirely accurate "falsely claims."

I watched Pence on the tube claiming during an interview with Fox yesterday that he just learned that then-despite Rep. Cummings putting him on written notice of this fact months ago before his appointment-heck I knew well before the inauguration, this was widely reported in the media at the time.

The degree to which the Trump Administration baldfaced lies is unprecedented in American politics. Setting a pretty poor example for other governments, not to mention our children. How can a parent lecture their third grader on always telling the truth when they see the President lying so often?
 

Thebobo

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