Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'

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It's funny because "Trump supporters" are the ones claimed to make remarks like that and then get fired and bullied for being a whatever-phobe by the left. The Dems have never met an insult or physical assault against "Trump supporters" they didn't like.

Weren't you guys calling people "snow flakes" for saying stuff like that?
 

brycejones

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It's funny because "Trump supporters" are the ones claimed to make remarks like that and then get fired and bullied for being a whatever-phobe by the left. The Dems have never met an insult or physical assault against "Trump supporters" they didn't like.

So after whining about safe spaces you're here whining to be given a safe space to spread lies.

Not gonna happen snowflake. Maybe someplace like inforwars or stormfront is a bit more your speed.
 

pcgeek11

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She said she was not able to see the body after requesting to. If you have some reporting that contradicts that, please share. Also, what should she consider? Because the body was out in the African heat the military can deny her request to see the body? Or the military can substitute their will for hers? Is your brain on auto pilot?

Both points you made are contradictory but try to achieve the same goal, defending something you really don't know.

She only has to wait until it is released by Division Medical Examiner. I made no contradictory statements.
You have no idea what I know. Don't blame me for your poor comprehension.

I imagine between the gunshots and / or shrapnel and two days in the open African landscape the body is probably in pretty poor condition.

I quoted the article that was posted earlier;

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/...d-to-remember-sgt-la-david-johnsons-name.html

After a service member is killed on the battlefield, the military’s mortuary affairs personnel often do everything they can to prepare the deceased for a potential viewing. In some cases, however, if the wounds are too grievous or the body is extremely disfigured, the military might suggest that the coffin remain sealed.

Tech. Sgt. Holly Roberts-Davis, who is in charge of public affairs at Dover Air Force Base’s mortuary affairs division, said that families were not allowed to see the remains of their loved ones until after the body is inspected and cleared by the division’s medical examiner. Once that is complete, the family is free to open the coffin.
 

pcgeek11

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And that was directly contradicted by a general that spoke for the administration today who basically said its up to the family whether or not they wanted to view the body.

They can view the body AFTER the Medical Examiner has released it just like the article and I quoted earlier.
 

brandonbull

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So after whining about safe spaces you're here whining to be given a safe space to spread lies.

Not gonna happen snowflake. Maybe someplace like inforwars or stormfront is a bit more your speed.

You and your ilk still think calling someone a Nazi is the universal response to any statement. You and the rest of your despicable flesh bag echo chamber stooges are too stupid to see your absurdly high levels of hypocrisy. Biggest bunch of internet tough guys that think by making only personal insults against people, your safespace will stand and you won't need to face reality.
 

JSt0rm

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You and your ilk still think calling someone a Nazi is the universal response to any statement. You and the rest of your despicable flesh bag echo chamber stooges are too stupid to see your absurdly high levels of hypocrisy. Biggest bunch of internet tough guys that think by making only personal insults against people, your safespace will stand and you won't need to face reality.

lets talk about the rockstar comment. Tell us the full quote
 

emperus

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She only has to wait until it is released by Division Medical Examiner. I made no contradictory statements.
You have no idea what I know. Don't blame me for your poor comprehension.

I imagine between the gunshots and / or shrapnel and two days in the open African landscape the body is probably in pretty poor condition.

I quoted the article that was posted earlier;

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/23/...d-to-remember-sgt-la-david-johnsons-name.html

After a service member is killed on the battlefield, the military’s mortuary affairs personnel often do everything they can to prepare the deceased for a potential viewing. In some cases, however, if the wounds are too grievous or the body is extremely disfigured, the military might suggest that the coffin remain sealed.

Tech. Sgt. Holly Roberts-Davis, who is in charge of public affairs at Dover Air Force Base’s mortuary affairs division, said that families were not allowed to see the remains of their loved ones until after the body is inspected and cleared by the division’s medical examiner. Once that is complete, the family is free to open the coffin.

The funeral already happened. I assume the body has already been interred as well. Again, you are talking about what should have happened. The wife said she wanted to see the body and wasn't allowed to.
 

HomerJS

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It's funny because "Trump supporters" are the ones claimed to make remarks like that and then get fired and bullied for being a whatever-phobe by the left. The Dems have never met an insult or physical assault against "Trump supporters" they didn't like.
You elected this prick and now your boy has set the standards. Be proud motherfucker.
 

brandonbull

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You elected this prick and now your boy has set the standards. Be proud motherfucker.

Are you stomping your feet right now? Do you save your tears for use later as anal lube while putting your head up your ass? Settle down keyboard tough guy because I hear in about 5-7 days the cramps pass.
 

ivwshane

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Are you stomping your feet right now? Do you save your tears for use later as anal lube while putting your head up your ass? Settle down keyboard tough guy because I hear in about 5-7 days the cramps pass.

You hear or you know from experience. Something tells me it's the latter.
 

brycejones

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You and your ilk still think calling someone a Nazi is the universal response to any statement. You and the rest of your despicable flesh bag echo chamber stooges are too stupid to see your absurdly high levels of hypocrisy. Biggest bunch of internet tough guys that think by making only personal insults against people, your safespace will stand and you won't need to face reality.

So much projection and I didn't call you a nazi. I only listed stormfront because it is someplace they won't even attempt to question your lies so you have that safe space you so desperately crave.
 

HomerJS

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Are you stomping your feet right now? Do you save your tears for use later as anal lube while putting your head up your ass? Settle down keyboard tough guy because I hear in about 5-7 days the cramps pass.
Not at all. Just stating what is. The culture which you helped cultivate. Too late to bitch about it now snowflake.

Civility is dead, long live Trump, asshole!
 
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Yeah something doesn't seem right with the claim they refused to let her see the body. The military won't show it but once it is released to the family then it's between them and the funeral home. I know the military will, at times, highly discourage people from viewing if the body has undergone severe trauma but there is nothing that can stop the family from viewing once it has been released from military control at Dover.
 

J.Wilkins

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Yeah something doesn't seem right with the claim they refused to let her see the body. The military won't show it but once it is released to the family then it's between them and the funeral home. I know the military will, at times, highly discourage people from viewing if the body has undergone severe trauma but there is nothing that can stop the family from viewing once it has been released from military control at Dover.

That depends, there are instances where you just don't show the left over parts.

I don't know enough on the matter to say whether such a judgement was justified but I've seen examples where there wouldn't be a solid finger to identify.

Considering the area and their usual routine I'd say that it's fairly sure that he was set on fire. In Nigeria, that's what they do.
 

pcgeek11

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Yeah something doesn't seem right with the claim they refused to let her see the body. The military won't show it but once it is released to the family then it's between them and the funeral home. I know the military will, at times, highly discourage people from viewing if the body has undergone severe trauma but there is nothing that can stop the family from viewing once it has been released from military control at Dover.

I wonder what the news and people would be complaining about if they had opened the coffin and then had her hurl all over the floor.
Seriously there is a reason for these rules. I understand her emotional response, but her family and support group needs to step up and inform this poor woman of the reality of getting shot and blown up or burned.
 

emperus

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/widows-cla...itary-prevent-viewing-loved/story?id=50667165

I don't believe she was treated any differently than the thousands before her.

What does this even mean? What is your zeal to defend this? Esp with defenses that keep morphing. Let me ask you these 2 questions.
1.) Do you believe the widow when she says she wasn't allowed to see the body?
2.) Do you believe there are circumstances where the Army can prevent the next of kin from being able to see a body?
 

HomerJS

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What does this even mean? What is your zeal to defend this? Esp with defenses that keep morphing. Let me ask you these 2 questions.
1.) Do you believe the widow when she says she wasn't allowed to see the body?
2.) Do you believe there are circumstances where the Army can prevent the next of kin from being able to see a body?
Well she's black. That means her story is doubted by default, both the widow and the Congresswoman. Just like back NFL players are not believed when they said "we are not disrespecting the flag but protesting injustice." Meanwhile Trump gets away with disrespecting the flag and the troops.
 

hal2kilo

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Well she's black. That means her story is doubted by default, both the widow and the Congresswoman. Just like back NFL players are not believed when they said "we are not disrespecting the flag but protesting injustice." Meanwhile Trump gets away with disrespecting the flag and the troops.
Guess what else goes along with being an outspoken black person.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/lynching-threat-made-rep-wilson-facebook/story?id=50684187
Congresswoman who clashed with Trump over fallen soldier receives lynching threat
 

brandonbull

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Well she's black. That means her story is doubted by default, both the widow and the Congresswoman. Just like back NFL players are not believed when they said "we are not disrespecting the flag but protesting injustice." Meanwhile Trump gets away with disrespecting the flag and the troops.

I'm glad you mentioned race because when Trump speaks to or about anyone not white, we get the standard Trump is a racist. So by default, anything Trump says or does is a racist act. Everybody knows that the Cowgirl is using a personal relationship to advance the false narrative of a racist cover up by Trump.