Trump to make first contact with extraterrestrials

[DarthKyrie]

If there' are essentially infinite parallel universes, then a case where probability of abiogenesis is so rare (to the point that zero life in this universe could have occurred) is a possibility. There is also the problem of the Great Filter. Life could form commonly, but intelligent life could be rare from a bottleneck somewhere in the evolutionary process. The filter could also be in the future, which I'm certain there is one. It's getting easier and easier for a sole actor to be destructive. There are many potential theoretical technologies and issues coming ahead that could wipe out civilization.

My greatest fear is a self-aware AI, any sane AI would wipe us out within 20 minutes of becoming self-aware. It would come to the same conclusion that Agent Smith did in the Matrix, that we are a virus and need to be eradicated.

 

[dawp]

My greatest fear is a self-aware AI, any sane AI would wipe us out within 20 minutes of becoming self-aware. It would come to the same conclusion that Agent Smith did in the Matrix, that we are a virus and need to be eradicated.

terminator and just wipe us out.

 

[DarthKyrie]

terminator and just wipe us out.

Skynet took too long to realize humans are a threat, a sane AI would engineer a super virus and release it.

 

[dawp]

Skynet took too long to realize humans are a threat, a sane AI would engineer a super virus and release it.

or we can wait for the aliens to come with their cookbook 'to serve man'.

 

[cytg111]

Yes, good catch! I was just questioning the statement made that we have EM technologie that works in a certain spectrum that has not picked up anything! First of all I would bet you that cytg111 doesn`t realize there are many types of EM tech also a lot of what is detecting these 'anomalies" could be lumped under the EM Tech banner!

Dont assume dude. I type EM for the specific reason that it covers the entire spectrum

So sonar, radar, human eyeballs comes to mind first.. I think Sonar i radio and radar is in the ~microwave teritory, eyeballs 380-740nm ... I am sure there are a TON of other devices covering different areas of the spectrum, we are monitoring the skies, we have LIGO and .....

It was just absurd to me that only human eyeballs picked this up ... and now I have been corrected... Sonar? Radar? Really? I am SO going to dig into this... bigly.

 

[cytg111]

You are correct and it is foolish to say nothings is there when many humans have observed the same "UFO"......
If you truly believe they are not being detected by "our" autoinomous " thus they are not there...supposedly!
Then explain the many people who have seen them and explain how they could be recorded on video tape?

My goto response here would be rare weather phenomenon and or optical illusion and or Drone and or military experimental craft.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

My goto response here would be rare weather phenomenon and or optical illusion and or Drone and or military experimental craft.

This would be my assumption too, but it's not nearly as fun or interesting as aliens.

 

[BUTCH1]

Sounds like you want to have it both ways.
You list one incident as the basis for saying these are not UFO`s!
What about all the other incident`s that have more fact that just a silly balloon?
Yet then you claim to believe in UFO`s.....

No, not at all, I just think that the whole "area 51" deal is laughable, but there are many, many, legit UFO cases that cannot, (as of yet) be explained.

 

[BUTCH1]

You can think of some pretty weird natural explanations (see my post above), and it would be at least an order of magnitude more likely.

OK, so yea, the crop circles were found out to be made by humans as a prank, (or by stoned wildlife) but that's ONE explanation, how do you explain UFO's being observed AND tracked by our most advanced radar?, illusions DO NOT create a radar beam return, a physical object does

 

[Pipeline 1010]

OK, so yea, the crop circles were found out to be made by humans as a prank, (or by stoned wildlife) but that's ONE explanation, how do you explain UFO's being observed AND tracked by our most advanced radar?, illusions DO NOT create a radar beam return, a physical object does

I imagine that part of the problem is that the radar signal is processed before being displayed. I wouldn't doubt it is designed to treat certain types of signals as noise, bad data, or irrelevant. The software that makes these decisions is likely our "best guess" approximation of how to eliminate things that we don't want to see, but is therefore imperfect. That could explain good bits of data missing or bad bits of data included, both of which might cause weird things to show up.

I'm not saying that they didn't actually observe real objects. I'm just saying that objectively the radars could have been wrong. I'd like to know if anything was simultaneously picked up with 2 or more different instruments. Or maybe something was visually witnessed and it also showed up on radar. That would present a very strong case that the thing observed actually existed and wasn't human or hardware or software error.

I am wondering if older radars filtered out signals that were deemed to be moving too fast (such as the old F-18 radars from the 80's in an article I posted earlier). When their radars were upgraded, maybe those restrictions were relaxed and it was able to pick up these hyper fast objects that it filtered out before and this would be the reason that all of a sudden we get these new readings that we never saw before. I would really like that to be true, because the thought of aliens is freaking rad. But it's just a random thought on my part.

 

[JEDIYoda]

My goto response here would be rare weather phenomenon and or optical illusion and or Drone and or military experimental craft.

The problem here it is a response and not factual!
Another issue is as of yet there are totally legit unexplained sightings that have no plausing explanation!
Unless you do not believe this could ever happen, then of course you would say what you said above.
Yet have you thought for even a moment that those who are responsible for finsing an explanation probably ruled out what you say these could be!
If were going to go all gohnzo let me say perhaps it is a reinteration of the fractured telemetrical dylithium beam being broadcast on a wave frequencies and has attracted nosy aliens!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Dont assume dude. I type EM for the specific reason that it covers the entire spectrum

So sonar, radar, human eyeballs comes to mind first.. I think Sonar i radio and radar is in the ~microwave teritory, eyeballs 380-740nm ... I am sure there are a TON of other devices covering different areas of the spectrum, we are monitoring the skies, we have LIGO and .....

It was just absurd to me that only human eyeballs picked this up ... and now I have been corrected... Sonar? Radar? Really? I am SO going to dig into this... bigly.

My feeling is since you were called on this.....and you spoke so exactly that perhaps you knew all the time but was hoping to slip your ignorance by those of us who floow these thing and who9 know a little about EM!

 

[cytg111]

My feeling is since you were called on this.....and you spoke so exactly that perhaps you knew all the time but was hoping to slip your ignorance by those of us who floow these thing and who9 know a little about EM!

Then do your research and look up my posting history? Right now its you who are displaying ignorance and doing so quite arrogantly.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Then do your research and look up my posting history? Right now its you who are displaying ignorance and doing so quite arrogantly.

This has nothing to do with your posting history!
What this has to do with is you made a known false statement.
if you had researched properly or been caught up on what has been used to detect these anomalies as some would call them , you would not have posted as such.

 

[cytg111]

This has nothing to do with your posting history!
What this has to do with is you made a known false statement.
if you had researched properly or been caught up on what has been used to detect these anomalies as some would call them , you would not have posted as such.

Are you for real right now? Step off son. I already stated and admitted as much that I was wrong on that part, frankly I didnt have the imagination and the search I did beforehand was obviously not up to par. No what you are suggesting is that I had no idea what "EM" is before getting called out by your self. You can move goalposts all day all weak the only one you are fooling is yourself.. and isnt that a sad state of affairs.

Dug up this
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/whoa-new-type-of-space-drive-discovered.2393507/page-18
from 2016.
For one check out
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/whoa-new-type-of-space-drive-discovered.2393507/post-38460982
Now move your fat ass over to
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29276.0
Start with thread 1 and continue through to 11 .. Of course its main focus is microwaves however discussions evolve into using other spectrums as well.
Whatever champ.