Trump to close West Point next?

[IronWing]

I feel compelled to offer you the same advice. Clearly you never learned how to deal with differing opinions or communicate as an adult. I'll also note that you wouldn't say that to my face, which pretty much makes you a coward and an idiot.

Fuck off, Nazi.

 

[WelshBloke]

That wasn't the issue in question. The fellow is upset because he thinks I voted for Trump 3 times, and he feels that my imagined voting record has diminished my credibility. That's butt hurt.

I have no idea what your voting record is but I think its fairly reasonable to make assumptions on someones judgement if they have voted for someone like Trump (thats not about left or right politicians, its about the moral hole that Trump is)

Some day he'll grow up and realize that part of a democratic form of government is that sometimes others don't vote the way you want them to. He want's the democracy where only the people who think like he does should be allowed to vote.

I mean I can agree that politics that I don't like can also be a way to run a functional country. I disagree that Trump has any of the qualities that enable that.

And please recall that all of this stemmed from a post about Trump that was completely bogus.

Kind of. Given the way Trump has spoken about the military and that he broke protocol/tradition and left early there's probably a bit of truth in it.
There's also the larger issue that Trump is incompetent and totally out of his depth trying to run the country so bringing up someones credibility that voted for Trump 3 times (again I don't know or particularly want yo know your voting record) and still seems to support him even given the damage he's doing to the US seems reasonable.

I'm not feeling like I'm on thin ice here.

Your entire country is though.

 

[Muse]

“West Point Cadets’ Silent Revolt—Anonymous Graduates and Faculty Reveal Why President Trump Didn’t Shake Their Hands”

By Robert Hawks

May 28, 2025

WEST POINT, NY — In an unprecedented turn of events that unfolded with all the subtlety of a brass band playing “Taps” backwards, President Trump declined to extend his stay at the graduation ceremony of the United States Military Academy, leaving the newly minted second lieutenants’ hands as unsullied by presidential sweat as the honor code itself.

The mainstream media, ever allergic to nuance and eager to maintain their symphony of static, hasn’t said a peep about the real reason for the snub.

But through a series of clandestine interviews with anonymous graduates and equally reticent Academy faculty members, I have unearthed the hidden story of this ceremonial duck-and-cover.

The reason, dear reader, lies within the very marrow of West Point’s ethos: the Honor Code.

For those unfamiliar (or who haven’t been paying attention since the dawn of the republic), the Honor Code stands stark and absolute:

“I will neither lie, nor cheat, nor steal, nor will I tolerate the actions of anyone who does.”

One newly minted officer, who would only identify themselves as “Second Lieutenant K,” offered a hushed explanation:

“We realized that by shaking the hand of a man already convicted of 31 felonies, we’d be tacitly tolerating those actions. It’s not just semantics—under our code, we can’t wink at dishonor and call it ceremony.”

Faculty members, equally cryptic yet unwavering in their adherence to the Honor Code, found themselves wrestling with the potential fallout of the traditional handshake.

“Cadets approached me after final drills,” admitted an anonymous instructor. “They were genuinely concerned. ‘Sir, if I shake his hand, am I violating the code?’ They weren’t being flippant. These are people who signed up to die for principles if called upon—don’t underestimate how seriously they take them.”

Another faculty officer, known only as “Major T,” put it bluntly:

“Look, you can salute the office.

“That’s tradition and lawful.

“But to physically clasp the hand of a man who has lied, cheated, and stolen—when our code demands zero tolerance? That’s not a handshake. That’s an ethical trap.”

The consensus among these sources was clear: A handshake would have become a symbolic endorsement of the very actions the Honor Code forbids.

And it wouldn’t be a momentary lapse either—cadets feared it could haunt their entire careers.

“Years from now,” explained a cadet, “someone might claim that our commissions were tainted—born in an act that violated the very code we swore to uphold.”

Thus, an extraordinary decision was made behind closed doors, framed in the same ironclad logic that has guided this institution since the days of Benedict Arnold’s ghost: better to forego the handshake altogether than compromise the moral backbone of the Corps of Cadets.

The decision, while sparing the graduating class an ethical quagmire, also spared the nation a broadcast spectacle that would have further underlined our national rift:

“Can you imagine,” mused Major T, “an entire line of newly commissioned officers refusing to shake the President’s hand, yet saluting him? It would’ve been the perfect image of our times—honor intact, but unity fractured.”

And so, President Trump’s decision to depart swiftly wasn’t born of political cowardice or personal pique, but of a carefully orchestrated plan to protect the very soul of West Point.

After all, in a world where handshakes can be loaded weapons, even the Commander-in-Chief had to recognize that the Honor Code brooks no compromise.

Or perhaps he simply realized that he’d be exposed.

As for the graduates, they walked away with their honor unsullied, commissions secure, and a story to tell that would never appear on cable news but will echo down the halls of the Academy long after the brass bands fall silent.

In the end, what’s a handshake, really, when compared to the weight of an oath sworn under the long shadow of the Hudson?

After all, even the president can’t break the spine of an honor code written in blood, sweat, and the quiet resolve of those who know that a commission earned in truth must never be tarnished by the stains of another man’s lies.

Beware of the handshake that hides the snake. Smiling Faces by Undisputed Truth

You know, the earth does not revolve around Trump's ass, something he doesn't realize.

The story is not that Trump didn't shake their hands, it's that they didn't shake his.

"Beware of the handshake that hides the Snake"
from Smiling Faces, Song by The Undisputed Truth ‧ 1971

Lyrics

Smiling faces sometimes
Pretend to be your friend
Smiling faces show no traces
Of the evil that lurks within (can you dig it?)
Smiling faces, smiling faces, sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces tell lies and I got proof
Oh, oh, yeah
Let me tell you
The truth is in the eyes 'cause the eyes don't lie, amen
Remember, a smile is just a frown turned upside down my friend
So, hear me when I'm saying
Smiling faces, smiling faces, sometimes, yeah
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces tell lies and I got proof
(Beware) beware of the handshake
That hides the snake (can you dig it, can you dig it?)
I'm a-tellin' you beware of the pat on the back
It just might hold you back
Jealousy, (jealousy) misery (misery) envy (envy)
I tell you you can't see behind
Smiling faces, smiling faces, sometimes
Hey, they don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces tell lies and I got proof
Hey, your enemy won't do you no harm
(Rap on) 'cause you'll know where he's comin' from
Don't let the handshake and the smile fool ya
Take my advice, I'm only tryin' to school ya
Smiling faces, smiling faces, sometimes
They don't tell the truth
Smiling faces, smiling faces tell lies and I got proof
Smiling faces, smiling faces sometimes