Trump to be liquidated according to russ prime minister

[cytg111]

"Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev: Trump is an 'incompetent player' who will be 'liquidated' by the US establishment"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...dated-by-the-us-establishment/article/2630446

Reading all that stuff behind the lines makes the inked writing sort of blurry...

"incompetent" : bating.
"player" : what game?
"total weakness" : using drumpf semantics no less.
"The US establishment fully outwitted Trump" : bating
"The President is not happy about the sanctions" : cause you are buddies?
"impotence" : uhoh
"liquidated" : snap, flaccid peepee tapes?
"in the most humiliating manner" : bating
"transferring executive powers to Congress" : the problem to solve?
"beginning of full-fledged trade war" : war? trade tapes?

I dont know, those posts speak of 'between the lines' like there is no tomorrow(poor choice of words?).

 

[ivwshane]

Its meant to get trump riled up and incite his base to be even more weary of the establishment and its meant to get the establishment to say, "see! Even Russia thinks trump is a joke".

Russia is purposely trying to undermine our democracy and we've got too many people who are unwittingly willing to go along with it. Russia meddling in the election should have been a unifying event, that crosses the political spectrum, in order to combat the US's greatest threat to date, our democracy itself.

 

[senseamp]

Sorry, Russia, no returns or refunds.

 

[tweaker2]

Sorry, Russia, no returns or refunds.

That's a really interesting point you've made there. Considering that Putin now owns Trump, Putin should bear the responsibilities of ownership and have Trump move into the nearest Russian embassy, seize his assets to pay for his upkeep, punish him for not keeping his end of the bargain toward removing all sanctions against Mother Russia by denying him the ability to satisfy his debilitating twitter twitch habit and compelling him, by the usual KGB methods, to reiterate in compelling fashion his statement that Russia was never involved with monkeying around with America's system of voting for their leaders, of which is in complete contrast with our own intelligence agencies' findings, thus sealing Trump's fate as a greed driven traitorous sellout to America but also a Hero of Russia.

Wishful thinking, but methinks a very well deserved ending toward Trump's reign over the nation.

 

[Jhhnn]

"Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev: Trump is an 'incompetent player' who will be 'liquidated' by the US establishment"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...dated-by-the-us-establishment/article/2630446

Reading all that stuff behind the lines makes the inked writing sort of blurry...

"incompetent" : bating.
"player" : what game?
"total weakness" : using drumpf semantics no less.
"The US establishment fully outwitted Trump" : bating
"The President is not happy about the sanctions" : cause you are buddies?
"impotence" : uhoh
"liquidated" : snap, flaccid peepee tapes?
"in the most humiliating manner" : bating
"transferring executive powers to Congress" : the problem to solve?
"beginning of full-fledged trade war" : war? trade tapes?

I dont know, those posts speak of 'between the lines' like there is no tomorrow(poor choice of words?).

It's unfortunate that Medvedev is absolutely correct. If Congress is intent on forcing foreign policy positions contrary to those of the Chief Executive then that executive should fight against them. It's encroachment on the President's job under the separation of powers principles of the Constitution. In the normal course of events Congress would authorize rather than demand sanctions subject to the judgement of the President. If Congress has a veto proof majority then the executive should force them to exercise that power after taking his case to the people.

I'm pretty sure that "liquidated" has a somewhat different connotation in Russian than in English.

 

[woolfe9998]

Its meant to get trump riled up and incite his base to be even more weary of the establishment and its meant to get the establishment to say, "see! Even Russia thinks trump is a joke".

Russia is purposely trying to undermine our democracy and we've got too many people who are unwittingly willing to go along with it. Russia meddling in the election should have been a unifying event, that crosses the political spectrum, in order to combat the US's greatest threat to date, our democracy itself.

There are no "unifying events" any more, not in this political environment. Left and right have totally split and live in totally different realities. We're physically in the same country. That is now officially all we have in common.

I agree that the Russians are trying to rile up Trump, seeing if they can goad him into opposing any attempt by Congress to crack down on them. They seem to be as keenly aware as we are of Trump's boundless ego and they know how to press his buttons. Many countries are going to test limits while Trump is in the White House. Russia and North Korea as just the two most obvious right now. His presidency can't end soon enough.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's unfortunate that Medvedev is absolutely correct. If Congress is intent on forcing foreign policy positions contrary to those of the Chief Executive then that executive should fight against them. It's encroachment on the President's job under the separation of powers principles of the Constitution. In the normal course of events Congress would authorize rather than demand sanctions subject to the judgement of the President. If Congress has a veto proof majority then the executive should force them to exercise that power after taking his case to the people.

I'm pretty sure that "liquidated" has a somewhat different connotation in Russian than in English.

Trump couldn't politically afford to veto that bill. And make no mistake: that state of affairs is 100% Trump's fault. Whether he and his merry band of a-holes colluded with Russia or not, he has serially lied about it and done everything possible to obstruct the investigation. This is a problem entirely of his own making.

 

[cytg111]

"dangerous"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/893083735633129472

Dangerous sure, but dangerous to whom dear Dumpf?

http://ir.net/news/politics/126514/report-n-y-trump-probe-will-shock-public-prompt-outcry/

Feel the wolves closing in yet?

Can anyone see Dumpf going incognito on a plane to Russia for asylum? That would be one awesome card for Vlad to take home! - This has got to be the plan! I feel it in my bones.

 

[HomerJS]

Medvedev is obviously joking!

 

[fleshconsumed]

As others have said, it's just Russia trying to stir more paranoia in Trump's brain against the congress. And Trump is falling for it.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump couldn't politically afford to veto that bill. And make no mistake: that state of affairs is 100% Trump's fault. Whether he and his merry band of a-holes colluded with Russia or not, he has serially lied about it and done everything possible to obstruct the investigation. This is a problem entirely of his own making.

It was really weak, as Medvedev said. Trump could sell a veto, or try, remind the people that they elected him because of his deal making abilities but that Congress won't let him do that. Contend that he needs the freedom to enforce or relax sanctions on the basis of negotiations to be able to deal in good faith & offer incentives towards positive results. If Congress overrides his veto then he has the perfect excuse to put his own failures off on them.

Hell- he could veto & claim it's about the Iranian sanctions undermining Tillerson's "progress" to alter & expand on the nuclear deal.

 

[agent00f]

Its meant to get trump riled up and incite his base to be even more weary of the establishment and its meant to get the establishment to say, "see! Even Russia thinks trump is a joke".

Russia is purposely trying to undermine our democracy and we've got too many people who are unwittingly willing to go along with it. Russia meddling in the election should have been a unifying event, that crosses the political spectrum, in order to combat the US's greatest threat to date, our democracy itself.

In fairness their investment turn sour after trump upset congress over sessions/priebus and motivated them to pass new russian sanctions.

The guy's so incompetent he can't even puppet right.

 

[dank69]

It's unfortunate that Medvedev is absolutely correct. If Congress is intent on forcing foreign policy positions contrary to those of the Chief Executive then that executive should fight against them. It's encroachment on the President's job under the separation of powers principles of the Constitution. In the normal course of events Congress would authorize rather than demand sanctions subject to the judgement of the President. If Congress has a veto proof majority then the executive should force them to exercise that power after taking his case to the people.

I'm pretty sure that "liquidated" has a somewhat different connotation in Russian than in English.

Hopefully it means "turn him into liquid."

 

[ivwshane]

In fairness their investment turn sour after trump upset congress over sessions/priebus and motivated them to pass new russian sanctions.

The guy's so incompetent he can't even puppet right.

Removing or loosening sanctions would have been icing on the cake. I'm sure they'll settle for a weakened US.

 

[woolfe9998]

It was really weak, as Medvedev said. Trump could sell a veto, or try, remind the people that they elected him because of his deal making abilities but that Congress won't let him do that. Contend that he needs the freedom to enforce or relax sanctions on the basis of negotiations to be able to deal in good faith & offer incentives towards positive results. If Congress overrides his veto then he has the perfect excuse to put his own failures off on them.

Hell- he could veto & claim it's about the Iranian sanctions undermining Tillerson's "progress" to alter & expand on the nuclear deal.

He can claim whatever he wants. The optics would be terrible. He's been accused of colluding with the Russians to help him win the election, and the accusations include various insinuations about promises he may have made to the Russians that he would lift sanctions. In the climate of those allegations, vetoing a Russia sanctions bill which received a near unanimous vote in Congress would have been a terrible idea. Even Trump wasn't stupid enough to do that. And as I said, this state of affairs is totally on Trump. If you want a POTUS to retain control over these kinds of foreign policy decisions without meddling from Congress, then you should hope for a POTUS who doesn't behave like he's in bed with countries being sanctioned by the US. This legislative action would be totally unnecessary if Trump acted like he understood the threat posed by Russia, and didn't deny their interference in our election. Congress' actions here are a predictable consequence of the behavior of this POTUS. Don't expect Congress to sit idle when we have a POTUS who is behaving as if he is not even loyal to the country.

 

[agent00f]

He can claim whatever he wants. The optics would be terrible. He's been accused of colluding with the Russians to help him win the election, and the accusations include various insinuations about promises he may have made to the Russians that he would lift sanctions. In the climate of those allegations, vetoing a Russia sanctions bill which received a near unanimous vote in Congress would have been a terrible idea. Even Trump wasn't stupid enough to do that. And as I said, this state of affairs is totally on Trump. If you want a POTUS to retain control over these kinds of foreign policy decisions without meddling from Congress, then you should hope for a POTUS who doesn't behave like he's in bed with countries being sanctioned by the US. This legislative action would be totally unnecessary if Trump acted like he understood the threat posed by Russia, and didn't deny their interference in our election. Congress' actions here are a predictable consequence of he behavior of this POTUS. Don't expect Congress to sit idle when we have a POTUS who is behaving as if he is not even loyal to the country,

No, the republicans are understandably upset over sessions and priebus. Sessions has a lot of friends in the south and priebus runs with the cheesehead mafia.

Accusing them of patriotism was pretty hilarious though.

 

[alien42]

There are no "unifying events" any more, not in this political environment. Left and right have totally split and live in totally different realities. We're physically in the same country. That is now officially all we have in common.

the impeachment/prosecution/removal/retirement of Trump should be that unifying event, but i am afraid those who voted for Trump won't shed their hate, ignorance, immorality and hypocrisy anytime soon.

and on the subject of the thread, Putin holds all the cards now, Trump is like his caged gimp at this point.

 

[woolfe9998]

the impeachment/prosecution/removal/retirement of Trump should be that unifying event, but i am afraid those who voted for Trump won't shed their hate, ignorance, immorality and hypocrisy anytime soon.

and on the subject of the thread, Putin holds all the cards now, Trump is like his caged gimp at this point.

Lots of things should be unifying, like fighting climate change, which is backed by science. Or political reform. But the two sides simply do not agree on the facts. While reality is probably somewhere in between the two versions, the right's version is so far off from reality that they have become essentially unreachable. Moreover, their hatred of liberals has turned them into contrarians, to the point where all that has to happen for conservatives to be against something is for liberals to say they are for it.

 

[cytg111]

the impeachment/prosecution/removal/retirement of Trump should be that unifying event, but i am afraid those who voted for Trump won't shed their hate, ignorance, immorality and hypocrisy anytime soon.

and on the subject of the thread, Putin holds all the cards now, Trump is like his caged gimp at this point.

Yesterday his approval rating was at 33%, ppl arecoming around...

 

[alien42]

Yesterday his approval rating was at 33%, ppl arecoming around...

you don't have to tell me about his approval rating, i check the polls and averages daily. even after Trump hits his floor, be it 25% or even lower, the vast majority of his voters will still vote Republican in the next election having learned nothing about their mistakes.

 

[agent00f]

Lots of things should be unifying, like fighting climate change, which is backed by science. Or political reform. But the two sides simply do not agree on the facts. While reality is probably somewhere in between the two versions

Yeah, evolution biology is probably somewhere in between creationism and evolutionary biology too, same with 2+2=4 vs 22.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Hopefully it means "turn him into liquid."

Is it time to revive "Will it Blend?!"?

 

[Bitek]

Hopefully it means "turn him into liquid."

I'm hoping "seize all his assets/ill gotten gains, throw him in prison."

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm hoping "seize all his assets/ill gotten gains, throw him in prison."

RICO the Hair Furor... what an intriguing idea...

 

[FIVR]

Putin trots out Medvedev when he is frustrated and wants to say something critical, but isn't frustrated enough to say it himself yet.