Trump, the "Zero Hour". (Article in Press in Germany after Merkel Visit)

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hal2kilo

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I never thought we'd reach the point in my lifetime that the US President-ANY US President-wasn't universally considered the leader of the free world. Even the worst of the modern lot-Nixon and GWB-had strong pro-democracy leanings-look at GWB's ill-fated attempts to force democracy upon Middle Eastern countries and Nixon's efforts to open up Red China.
I think it's a wishful "build it, and they will come" fantasy. If your culture has no traditional democratic values or widespread personal freedom what makes us think we can change them. Oh yea, and just show em the power of capitalism. That really worked for China huh.
 
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MajinCry

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I never thought we'd reach the point in my lifetime that the US President-ANY US President-wasn't universally considered the leader of the free world. Even the worst of the modern lot-Nixon and GWB-had strong pro-democracy leanings-look at GWB's ill-fated attempts to force democracy upon Middle Eastern countries and Nixon's efforts to open up Red China.

No, no they didn't. You can thank the US overthrowing Middle Eastern democracy for the state it is in today. Saudi Arabia, a totalitarian regime? The ousting of Iraqi democracy, in favour pacing Saddam, and subsequently ousting the puppet, in order to throw the region into chaos? The same again happened in Libya.

With Nixon, well, that's easy. The Vietnamese, as a people, chose communism. The US wouldn't stand for that, so a rapacious, bloody, and murderous war was raged to overthrow their democracy. Nixon perpetuated that same war for his whole tenure.

The reason why Trump is viewed as the worst president now, is because he's brazenly unintelligent, as well as chemically imbalanced.
 
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agent00f

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Growing up in East Germany isn't an excuse for not learning English later in life, especially if you're both an important politician as well as a research scientist, and those differences you mention aren't as important as what they have in common: they're stupid

Do you deny that Trump couldn't have won without Christian support?

The Berlin wall fell in November 1989, that's when Eastern Germany started leaving the Russian sphere of influence and when English might've become interesting for her.

Merkel became politically active pretty much right away, Germany was reunified in October 1990 and by January 1991 she was federal Minister for Women and Youth under Helmut Kohl. From then on, she was involved in top-level politics, which is pretty time consuming - and which also allows you to make use of professional translators whenever necessary.

I'm not sure where or at what point she should've learned English with that biography- and whether you have a leg to stand on if you want to attribute intellectual laziness to a person just because she happens to speak Russian better than English.

Any marginally intelligent german speaking swiss should know this, but this is justoh we're talking about here. Eg:

There are plenty of stupid intelligent people. It's helpful not to conflate the two. Think of intelligence as potential. In order to develop this potential one needs to put in some effort. It's already quite telling that she was a christian in communist East Germany, demonstrating how stubborn she is. Her father is partially to blame for that, as a Lutheran pastor.

I never stated she was unintelligent. There are many intelligent religious people, but they're all stupid.

Merkel has a science phd and a rather competent leader, whereas justoh & co carry water for lowest common denominator white nationalist dumbshits.
 
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Jhhnn

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And? Oh noes, them 'Mericans can't speak a zillion other languages so they are one big failboat! Seems like the US has been very successful and the current leader of the free world without everyone learning to speak another language. Maybe there is something to not learning a second language?

Please. Justoh keeps going on about Merkel's English. I point out that's rather poor criticism in light of most Americans' foreign language skills & general disdain for people who don't speak English. The reason 3/4 of Americans speak only English is that they never had the need to learn another language, not that such is some sort of inferiority.
 
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ivwshane

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I guess math works differently in the bubble, but Clinton did not have the majority of votes cast for her. Your link actually proves that more than 50% voted for someone else.

But she did have the most votes and she certainly received more votes than trump and more people did indeed vote against trump than they voted against her. So she did represent more people than any other candidate in the election.

How's that for math?
 

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I guess math works differently in the bubble, but Clinton did not have the majority of votes cast for her. Your link actually proves that more than 50% voted for someone else.

Let's put it this way, then: nearly 3 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump. She was the actual most popular candidate.