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Trump staff caught removing social distancing stickers from seats before Tulsa rally.

Mai72

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I don't know what to say. This is just redicilous. I can forsee many Trump supporters ill with Covid19 in a few weeks.

www.cnn.com

Washington Post: Trump campaign had social distancing stickers removed before Tulsa rally

President Donald Trump's campaign directed the removal of thousands of "Do Not Sit Here, Please!" stickers from seats in the Bank of Oklahoma Center in the hours before the President's much anticipated Tulsa rally, the Washington Post reported on Saturday.
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Didn't the event have reserved/assigned seating? I recall that this was being abused by people signing up with no intention of attending.
 
pcgeek11 said:
That is fucked up... But in the end these people would bunch up regardless of the signs on the seats.
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Pence told the nation to follow their local health regulations and that the campaign was doing so as well. Meanwhile this is what they were doing In Tulsa while following none of the state recommendations. He ran away when challenged on it.

the people will bunch up regardless because they are telling them to. So much for leading by example... or leading period.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Pence told the nation to follow their local health regulations and that the campaign was doing so as well. Meanwhile this is what they were doing In Tulsa while following none of the state recommendations. He ran away when challenged on it.

the people will bunch up regardless because they are telling them to. So much for leading by example... or leading period.
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What are the regulations on social distancing seat stickers in Tulsa?
 
CZroe said:
Didn't the event have reserved/assigned seating? I recall that this was being abused by people signing up with no intention of attending.
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Not at all. If it were true, people would have been scattered all over the arena.
 
CZroe said:
Didn't the event have reserved/assigned seating? I recall that this was being abused by people signing up with no intention of attending.
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You would have to provide evidence for all the seating being assigned. The campaign allows ticket requests far in excess of either arena capacity or the overflow area so my assumption is the vast majority was not assigned. They were also talking about filling the arena to it’s designed capacity at no point did I hear a member of the campaign or Trump discuss they were only to use 50% of the seats.
 
CZroe said:
What are the regulations on social distancing seat stickers in Tulsa?
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There probably aren't any. Management generally likes to cover their own ass, so they put out stickers. Trump likes a packed crowd, so his people removed them. The crowd showed up to escape reality, anyway. So did Trump, but he looked pretty shattered when he got off Marine 1 afterwards. Call it an attitude adjustment. Rallies won't work.
 
brycejones said:
You would have to provide evidence for all the seating being assigned. The campaign allows ticket requests far in excess of either arena capacity or the overflow area so my assumption is the vast majority was not assigned. They were also talking about filling the arena to it’s designed capacity at no point did I hear a member of the campaign or Trump discuss they were only to use 50% of the seats.
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I didn't say it was assigned. I speculated that it could have been and asked since I knew people had been registering with no intention of actually going. Thanks for the answer.

More speculation: Perhaps they planned to have social distance seating until the troll bookings greatly increased the expected crowds and they didn't think they had the rooms for it anymore. Seems a likely explanation for putting them out and then retracting them, doesn't it?

Jhhnn said:
There probably aren't any.
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Exactly.

He was using it as an example of the organizers violating their oath to follow local regulations. We can be critical of the rally without scraping the bottom of the barrel and making up things to criticize or making ridiculous assumptions.

The rally was a bad idea and it bombed. They should have at least enforced social distance seating and required masks if they were going to go ahead with it anyway. The truth looks bad enough as it is.
 
Duh...you're supposed to play the vid in reverse so you can see the campaign putting the stickers on the seating...that way there might be some excuse for the meager attendance numbers...
 
CZroe said:
I didn't say it was assigned. I speculated that it could have been and asked since I knew people had been registering with no intention of actually going. Thanks for the answer.

More speculation: Perhaps they planned to have social distance seating until the troll bookings greatly increased the expected crowds and they didn't think they had the rooms for it anymore. Seems a likely explanation for putting them out and then retracting them, doesn't it?
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They planned to pack the place & to have an overflow crowd outside. They even built an outdoor stage so Trump could speak directly to them. There was no intent by the campaign to have social distancing at all. When the venue tried to create social distancing, the campaign took down the stickers. There was no social distancing at the recent venue in Phoenix.


Exactly.

He was using it as an example of the organizers violating their oath to follow local regulations. We can be critical of the rally without scraping the bottom of the barrel and making up things to criticize or making ridiculous assumptions.

The rally was a bad idea and it bombed. They should have at least enforced social distance seating and required masks if they were going to go ahead with it anyway. The truth looks bad enough as it is.
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The rally was a threat to public welfare, plain & simple. That's beyond obvious. When Trump wanted to rally, the Governor, the Mayor & the venue became willing accomplices. If there were no rules against it that's because the Governor & the Mayor were already derelict in their duty.
 
CZroe said:
More speculation: Perhaps they planned to have social distance seating until the troll bookings greatly increased the expected crowds and they didn't think they had the rooms for it anymore. Seems a likely explanation for putting them out and then retracting them, doesn
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Not only does it not seem likely, it’s a stupid idea, a pathetic attempt to transfer blame for the Trump campaign’s disregard for public heath onto the trolls. The Trump campaign and the idiots who attended the rally are responsible, not the trolls.
 
IronWing said:
Not only does it not seem likely, it’s a stupid idea, a pathetic attempt to transfer blame for the Trump campaign’s disregard for public heath onto the trolls. The Trump campaign and the idiots who attended the rally are responsible, not the trolls.
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How are the idiots attending the rally responsible for the stickers being added and removed? Obviously there is some explanation and my speculation sounds a bit more convincing than yours which inexplicably blames the attendees for the stickers being removed.

The attendees are responsible for stupidly attending a public event/gathering during a pandemic with little to no safeguards. That was their contribution to this and I never defended them or tried to put any of their responsibility on the trolls. There is nothing "pathetic" about looking for the real reason the organizers changed course on the stickers.

I also agree that the event was stupid and should not have taken place. I also blame Trump and the organizers for that and criticize them for their wanton disregard for public health. Your over-reaction to the mere suggestion that there might be an explanation for their behavior with regard to the stickers is quite telling. Sounds like you'd rather run with circle-jerk assumptions than look for other possible reasons.

It's clear you don't even want to be reminded of other possibly-related factors, like the troll reservations. It was the obvious elephant in the room. I think we should always go straight for those so we don't end up digging ourselves into an embarrassing hole when we don't have to (plenty of valid criticisms). ...so why was I the first to even mention the troll reservations here?!

News flash: They can have reasons and we can still criticize their reasons. Imagine that!
 
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From hereon in maskless Trump campaign staffers from across the nation will be expected to attend every Trump rally held during the course of the pandemic, venues half the size of the Tulsa debacle will be scheduled in, a shortage of mannequins will be had in the area of the rallies, a kissing booth featuring Melania and Ivanka dressed in see-through underwear by Victoria Secret will be featured and door prizes consisting mostly of Trumpie bears, signed autographs of Trump posing with the likes of Vlad the Impaler Putie and Kimchee Kimmy, copies of Mein Kampf and slightly trampled MAGA hats from previous rallies will be offered.
 
Again, you reach for the most ridiculous explanation for the disgraceful conduct of the Trump campaign. The stickers were a visible indicator of Trump’s failure as a leader in a time of crisis and packed crowds look better for five second videos on news channels. End of story.
 
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Phokus said:
Good guy trump, knows his presidency is a disaster, trying to kill his own supporters so he doesn't get re-elected
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Forget about trump, his behavior can be explained by his mental disorder, what I don’t understand and what concerns me more is the people who willingly enable trump.
 
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