Trump set to propose budget that will cut benefits for poor, low income to fund tax cut for the rich

[Meghan54]

Pretty much comes down to conservatives have always resented the poor, particularly the poor of color.

 

[fskimospy]

Also the budget was written so poorly that it contains basic math errors that a child could figure out. The ridiculousness of assuming 3% growth aside it counts $2 trillion in increased tax receipts coming from Trump's proposed tax cuts. (which is bullshit, but that doesn't even matter). The problem is that those $2 trillion in magic tax dollars were already being counted by the administration as the reason why their tax cut would be deficit neutral. They are counting trillions of dollars twice and either were so stupid they didn't notice or so deceitful they hoped you didn't.

Remember though, these are SERIOUS BUSINESSMEN, hahaha. If only these SERIOUS BUSINESSMEN could get a grasp on basic accounting we might be better off.

 

[jackstar7]

$4t+ in tax cuts.

These greedy motherfuckers.

 

[theeedude]

They need more money.

 

[sandorski]

If these Cuts were intended to bring Fiscal Balance or Surplus, I think there's an argument there to justify them. In fact, that certainly seems to be offered as a justification. However, as soon as that argument is made they cut Taxes for those who don't need it and increase spending in areas that don't need it. That renders the whole idea of fiscal concerns moot and, cynically, simply nonsense to make the fucked feel better about getting fucked.

 

[Balt]

The president's budget is literally not worth the paper it's printed on. I like this quote from Mulvaney:

“If you’re on food stamps and you’re able-bodied, we need you to go to work. If you’re on disability insurance and you’re not supposed to be, you're not truly disabled, we need you to go back to work.”

Conveniently ignores reality, where there are a lot of people who get food stamps that already are working.

Mulvaney truly is just a despicable human being. Also apparently not very bright, given his 2 trillion dollar 'math error'.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Lets instead cut the billionaires and bleed them dry.

 

[DarthKyrie]

The president's budget is literally not worth the paper it's printed on. I like this quote from Mulvaney:

“If you’re on food stamps and you’re able-bodied, we need you to go to work. If you’re on disability insurance and you’re not supposed to be, you're not truly disabled, we need you to go back to work.”

Conveniently ignores reality, where there are a lot of people who get food stamps that already are working.

Mulvaney truly is just a despicable human being. Also apparently not very bright, given his 2 trillion dollar 'math error'.

You gotta love this guy, I am on Social Security disability and am basically able-bodied but I am not mentally fit because of the fact that I tend to get agitated around people and really want to get violent. If this fool thinks I should go back to work, he should be held responsible for anything I would do to anybody.

 

[TeeJay1952]

The plan is to force Americans to take the jobs that illegals are currently doing.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I wonder how long it will be until his base realizes they made a mistake?

 

[ch33zw1z]

With education cuts on the way, doubt it will ever sink in.

 

[khon]

I wonder how long it will be until his base realizes they made a mistake?

They won't realize until they feel the effects. News stories about what the budget will do isn't going to be enough, the budget has to actually be in place, and the cuts have to be to programs they use personally, only then will they realize it wasn't fake news.

 

[Puffnstuff]

They won't realize until they feel the effects. News stories about what the budget will do isn't going to be enough, the budget has to actually be in place, and the cuts have to be to programs they use personally, only then will they realize it wasn't fake news.

Oh you mean like my parents who criticize anyone who opposes the R agenda yet utilize the very programs that the D's put into place?

In my life I've been registered to the D, R, I Whig and NPA yet none of them really epitomize my political views. This is why I believe that we need to abolish the party system and support individuals with their own ideas about how things should be run from an ethical and moral standpoint. Conservatives are not ethical nor are they moral and they certainly don't adhere to biblical principals. If every politician had to adhere to the golden rule things would be very different right now.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The ruling class will never allow that.

The two party system is part of their control mechanics.

 

[Roflmouth]

They won't realize until they feel the effects. News stories about what the budget will do isn't going to be enough, the budget has to actually be in place, and the cuts have to be to programs they use personally, only then will they realize it wasn't fake news.

Keep holding out hope that a monstrously bloated federal budget will ever be attractive to anyone but a tiny sliver of the electorate.

 

[Balt]

Keep holding out hope that a monstrously bloated federal budget will ever be attractive to anyone but a tiny sliver of the electorate.

Not sure what you're trying to say here. The proposed budget by Trump is designed to help a tiny sliver of the electorate. Meanwhile it tells a couple dozen million people to fuck off and die.

 

[Roflmouth]

Not sure what you're trying to say here. The proposed budget by Trump is designed to help a tiny sliver of the electorate.

The "tiny sliver of the electorate" that pays for everyone else, you mean. I understand why you hate them though.

Meanwhile it tells a couple dozen million people to fuck off and die.

Thankfully, no one actually lives or dies because of the federal budget. If you do, get off your ass and stop demanding that everyone else pay for you to exist.

 

[Balt]

The "tiny sliver of the electorate" that pays for everyone else, you mean. I understand why you hate them though.

So you admit that Trump's budget only helps a small sliver of the electorate. Good.

Thankfully, no one actually lives or dies because of the federal budget. If you do, get off your ass and stop demanding that everyone else pay for you to exist.

This is just demonstrably untrue. In fact, your next sentence directly contradicts the first.

What is most amusing about your claim that people should 'get off their ass' if they rely on federal aid:

A lot of folks who do rely on federal aid spent their working lives in trades involving physical labor. Jobs that are increasingly difficult to perform when you get older, and increasingly easy to replace with automation of a younger guy whose body isn't broken.

You want to tell your 72 year old grandpa in Biloxi he should still be working in the shipyard? Do as you like.

 

[Geekbabe]

One of my children has Autism, child didn't speak till he was five. Thanks to help from early intervention & school IEP, his life began changing, help from SSDI & Mass Rehab has allowed him to attend college.

He has just one more semester left.
He is a kind, caring young man, donates blood monthly, participates in charity walks & drives. Direct face to face communication will always be difficult for him as will be problems with generalizing information but he is a far cry from the 5 yr old who used to head bang & bite himself.

No drink, no drugs, kid doesn't even like coffee, praying he finishes & gets an employer who realizes this kid is a whiz with numbers.

We have been grateful for the assistance he has received, he has even commented on the generosity of the taxpayers when he makes Dean''s list " I owe it to everybody to work hard"

Back in the day people with kids like mine made a deal with the state, we'd keep these kids at home, sparing the state the huge costs of institutional care, in return they would help us & make sure that when we die, there would be help in overseeing our children.

There are few programs to help adults with Autism, there are people in their 90's still caretaking for adult disabled children & now they want to gut the few supports available?

People who want to cut programs like these forget what the cost of putting children like mine in institutions used to cost. It saddens me to know how many kids won't get the help my child did.

 

[jackstar7]

The "tiny sliver of the electorate" that pays for everyone else, you mean. I understand why you hate them though.

Thank god you are here to white knight for the wealthy.

 

[Balt]

One of my children has Autism, child didn't speak till he was five. Thanks to help from early intervention & school IEP, his life began changing, help from SSDI & Mass Rehab has allowed him to attend college.

He has just one more semester left.
He is a kind, caring young man, donates blood monthly, participates in charity walks & drives. Direct face to face communication will always be difficult for him as will be problems with generalizing information but he is a far cry from the 5 yr old who used to head bang & bite himself.

No drink, no drugs, kid doesn't even like coffee, praying he finishes & gets an employer who realizes this kid is a whiz with numbers.

We have been grateful for the assistance he has received, he has even commented on the generosity of the taxpayers when he makes Dean''s list " I owe it to everybody to work hard"

Back in the day people with kids like mine made a deal with the state, we'd keep these kids at home, sparing the state the huge costs of institutional care, in return they would help us & make sure that when we die, there would be help in overseeing our children.

There are few programs to help adults with Autism, there are people in their 90's still caretaking for adult disabled children & now they want to gut the few supports available?

People who want to cut programs like these forget what the cost of putting children like mine in institutions used to cost. It saddens me to know how many kids won't get the help my child did.

Thank you for sharing a very personal perspective. I hope that folks at town halls across the country will do the same. It is things like this that will hopefully illustrate the real impact that these decisions have.

 

[Jhhnn]

Thank god you are here to white knight for the wealthy.

The avaricious greed & lust for power at the top of the Repub money machine is truly twisted & appalling, the worship of it by middle class conservatives equally so.

Damned fools don't realize that they're on the menu just like the rest of us.

 

[Geekbabe]

Thank you for sharing a very personal perspective. I hope that folks at town halls across the country will do the same. It is things like this that will hopefully illustrate the real impact that these decisions have.

Even with the help he gets, I still support him, he would starve on just SSDI he receives as a child disabled before age 22. He will own about 12K in student loans when he finishes, 12K I hope to pay off for him from my modest estate. I think people forget how little money many receive & how expensive it is to live safely in the community. He stays with me because a cockroach infested rooming house where he serves as prey for criminals isn't an option in my book.

Not all who receive help are users or terrible people.

 

[Capt Caveman]

The "tiny sliver of the electorate" that pays for everyone else, you mean. I understand why you hate them though.



Thankfully, no one actually lives or dies because of the federal budget. If you do, get off your ass and stop demanding that everyone else pay for you to exist.

Must be troll b/c you can't be this ignorant and stupid.

 

[jackstar7]

Not all who receive help are users or terrible people.

I'd take it a step further and say very few fit that description.