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Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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outriding said:
You cannot have your cake and eat it too
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What if the cake has a nick in it that might be a scratch, or a missing chunk? What if the frosting is melted near the undefined damage, making me not want to have the cake or eat it? Or (hear me out on this one) what if I don't give a rats ass about foolish minutia?
 
Greenman said:
there is no compelling reason support Biden, the man is in serious decline and not up to the task.
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Thank goodness that you are no longer forced to vote for Trump. There is now a candidate who is in her 50's, not in mental decline, fit, sane, not a convicted felon, and actually capable of speaking in complete sentences. Must be a great relief to be able to support the candidate Harris.
 
allisolm said:
Thank goodness that you are no longer forced to vote for Trump. There is now a candidate who is in her 50's, not in mental decline, fit, sane, not a convicted felon, and actually capable of speaking in complete sentences. Must be a great relief to be able to support the candidate Harris.
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but...but...she's not a white guy.
 
Lol there were plans by Repugican house to impeach her for high crimes and misdemeanours.

Lol losing track of a white guy with a rangefinder??? But yeah if he were black, he’d be shot on sight
 
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Greenman said:
What if the cake has a nick in it that might be a scratch, or a missing chunk? What if the frosting is melted near the undefined damage, making me not want to have the cake or eat it? Or (hear me out on this one) what if I don't give a rats ass about foolish minutia?
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Nick implies a superficial wound.

So either the wound is superficial, or you don't know the severity. It cannot be both. This, "you cannot have your cake and eat it too"
 
allisolm said:
Thank goodness that you are no longer forced to vote for Trump. There is now a candidate who is in her 50's, not in mental decline, fit, sane, not a convicted felon, and actually capable of speaking in complete sentences. Must be a great relief to be able to support the candidate Harris.
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It might be nice to see where she stands on the various issues first. Her tenure as border czar has been an unmitigated failure, and while she can indeed speak complete sentences, she does have an issue with them making sense.
She was pretty tough on crime as attorney general, and took some heat from the liberals about it. So at this point I'd say she's a mixed bag.
Btw, thanks for the concern about my candidate selection, I'll be able to figure it out from here.
 
Greenman said:
It might be nice to see where she stands on the various issues first. Her tenure as border czar has been an unmitigated failure, and while she can indeed speak complete sentences, she does have an issue with them making sense.
She was pretty tough on crime as attorney general, and took some heat from the liberals about it. So at this point I'd say she's a mixed bag.
Btw, thanks for the concern about my candidate selection, I'll be able to figure it out from here.
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The border belongs to Trump and the repubs. He torpedoed the bill that would fix it so as not to cooperate with Dems on anything. Don't dare work together on anything. That's some trickle down politics we all got pissed on, again.
 
Greenman said:
It might be nice to see where she stands on the various issues first. Her tenure as border czar has been an unmitigated failure, and while she can indeed speak complete sentences, she does have an issue with them making sense.
She was pretty tough on crime as attorney general, and took some heat from the liberals about it. So at this point I'd say she's a mixed bag.
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If you want to improve conditions at the border electing more Democrats is the only sane choice. After all, Republicans are the ones who keep blocking all efforts to improve it as you well know.
Greenman said:
Btw, thanks for the concern about my candidate selection, I'll be able to figure it out from here.
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Honestly why should we even care about your candidate selection or even have an election at this point? Why shouldn't Harris just seize power like Trump tried to do in 2021? It obviously didn't bother you then so it should be fine now.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I didn't say MY Doctor was a walking pill dispenser.
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pcgeek11 said:
Possibly....

Most doctors are walking pill dispensers in my 69 years of experience.
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No, you generalized ALL doctors in your experience, indicating that your personal experience is (i.e. - visits for yourself or maybe wife, kids, etc...) MOST doctors are walking pill dispensers, using your age as an indicator of your extensive experience inferring that your opinion should be relied on as an authority on the matter.

So you see here, this type of response is considered anecdotal, irrelevant (aka red herring), a form of confirmation bias, biased generalizing, and more. The response is like like rhetorical fallacy wack-a-mole.

For your viewing pleasure: https://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

This is how words work my man.
 
I get a real kick out of the abject fear and terror over "the border" on the right.

I also get the impression that the further from the border you are, the more fear there is. It's like the folks in the Shire worried about Mordor, except there's no dark lord or real horde of orcs coming to throw them in stewpots. Nobody can even say with actual facts what the impact is. Lying about bazillions spent on welfare doesn't count.

Maybe because the people in far off rube-ville don't actually know any immigrants (illegal or otherwise). I know quite a few from various parts of the world and if there's one generalization I can make--they work their asses off. I think that's part of it--they make the rest of us look bad 🙂 There's also the whole "dilution" thing of course, which is why letting in refugees isn't seen as a kill-two-birds solution for the supposed "depopulation" problem...

Not to say there are not problems to be solved with the border, or the reasons that so many refugees want to come here. But right now it's just a damn boogeyman used to scare people. There's very little difference in how any administration has done things at the border for decades, for good or bad.
 
By their own crime stats (Texas) immigrants have a significantly lower rate of committing crimes than the non-immigrant population.

It's just racist fear mongering and it's telling who falls for it.
 
skyking said:
The border belongs to Trump and the repubs. He torpedoed the bill that would fix it so as not to cooperate with Dems on anything. Don't dare work together on anything. That's some trickle down politics we all got pissed on, again.
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Why did we need a new bill to control the border? The federal government already has full authority and the mandate to defend the U.S. border. That said, I haven't read the bill that was defeated, so could you explain how it would have stopped illegal immigration?
 
ch33zw1z said:
No, you generalized ALL doctors in your experience, indicating that your personal experience is (i.e. - visits for yourself or maybe wife, kids, etc...) MOST doctors are walking pill dispensers, using your age as an indicator of your extensive experience inferring that your opinion should be relied on as an authority on the matter.

So you see here, this type of response is considered anecdotal, irrelevant (aka red herring), a form of confirmation bias, biased generalizing, and more. The response is like like rhetorical fallacy wack-a-mole.

For your viewing pleasure: https://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

This is how words work my man.
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I said MOST Doctors. Not ALL Doctors.

You don't need to lie.
 
Greenman said:
Why did we need a new bill to control the border? The federal government already has full authority and the mandate to defend the U.S. border. That said, I haven't read the bill that was defeated, so could you explain how it would have stopped illegal immigration?
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Because the current resources appropriated are insufficient and this bill would have increased them. Think of it in a municipal sense. Every city/state already has full authority and the mandate to prevent crime. You still have to hire cops though.

Republicans were pretty clear they opposed the bill because they thought a bad situation at the border would help them win elections though. So basically the people you're voting for decided it was a smart move to make things you care about worse. Seems bad to vote for them!
 
fskimospy said:
If you want to improve conditions at the border electing more Democrats is the only sane choice. After all, Republicans are the ones who keep blocking all efforts to improve it as you well know.

Honestly why should we even care about your candidate selection or even have an election at this point? Why shouldn't Harris just seize power like Trump tried to do in 2021? It obviously didn't bother you then so it should be fine now.
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I've never understood why any of you are concerned about my candidate selection. Makes no sense to me.
If Harris decides to seize power that's certainly her decision to make. I don't think it will work out well for her, but I wouldn't be terribly upset if she took a stab at it.
 
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