Trump probably shot at a rally -- Still a jerk

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Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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HomerJS said:
Republicans are flat out lying in their call for unity. Biden did the right thing before we knew the identity of the shooter. Trump campaign and Republicans initially blamed it on leftist Dems. Republicans have now come out with this unity thing after the shooter has been identified as a registered Republican who looks like a white nationalist.

Press hasn't figured out this is not a both sides thing. By that frame they are giving Trump a pass.

Like my example I've used numerous times, Dems go 5 mph over the speed limit. Trump and the GOP go 50 mph over the speed limit and the press say both are guilty of speeding.
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The national press isn't picking up some of bigger details about the shooter, like the fact that his classmates all have described him as very conservative.

When will conservatives stand up to Conservative on Conservative crime?
 
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eelw

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Lol SS throws blame on local police. That building was outside their security perimeter
 
Brainonska511

Brainonska511

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eelw said:
Lol SS throws blame on local police. That building was outside their security perimeter
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Not a surprise. From what I saw on Twitter from people who allegedly belonged to USSS in the past, and worked on presidential details, things on the medium threat space generally fell to local/state police.
 
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Pens1566

Pens1566

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Brainonska511 said:
The national press isn't picking up some of bigger details about the shooter, like the fact that his classmates all have described him as very conservative.

When will conservatives stand up to Conservative on Conservative crime?
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They're also not asking for confirmation that he was actually hit by a bullet instead of glass from the teleprompter.
 
HomerJS

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Brainonska511 said:
Not a surprise. From what I saw on Twitter from people who allegedly belonged to USSS in the past, and worked on presidential details, things on the medium threat space generally fell to local/state police.
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True from everything I've heard from ex SS. Locals were supposed to take that building. Question did SS actually tell the local PD? Seems there would have been a meeting with both groups in advance.

I still want to know, counter snipers had this guy in their sites BEFORE the first shot. Why wasn't Trump hustled off the stage when first spotted?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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thraashman said:
Shitty people don't deserve to die just because they were shitty, but at the same time they don't deserve to have us pretend they weren't shitty just because they died.
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I dunno, if their shittiness results in deaths, dismemberment, or anguish amongst others, it could probably be argued.
 
Zorba

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Motostu said:
Yep. He finally got that 'tough guy' shot he's been wanting so, so badly.

Not to take away from this being a terrible thing, but it says something that his first thought was the photo op and not that he could still be in danger.
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And he started yelling fight, basically a call to violence.
 
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eelw

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No RNC conference topic yet. But speeches are being forced to be changed. So they are actually willing to tamp down to lower the temperature
 
thraashman

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eelw said:
No RNC conference topic yet. But speeches are being forced to be changed. So they are actually willing to tamp down to lower the temperature
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I'm sure some of them will still be full of violent rhetoric. Hell, some will probably be worse. Do any of us think for even a moment that MTG won't be even more unhinged?
 
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pmv

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Pens1566 said:
Yeah, lots of reinforcement of the messiah complex going on.
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Yeah, that has to be the closest escape from assassination since that big table shielded that guy from the blast of the bomb left in the conference room, after the briefcase with it in got pushed further under it by people's feet. Or maybe since the time the same guy left a venue where he was giving a speech 10 minutes early because fog had grounded his plane and so wasn't there when the bomb on a timer (set weeks previously) went off and killed everyone in the building. Some people have the luck of the devil...almost as if Old Nick himself was looking out for them.
 
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fskimospy

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pmv said:
Yeah, that has to be the closest escape from assassination since that big table shielded that guy from the blast of the bomb left in the conference room, after the briefcase with it in got pushed further under it by people's feet. Or maybe since the time the same guy left a venue where he was giving a speech 10 minutes early because fog had grounded his plane and so wasn't there when the bomb on a timer (set weeks previously) went off and killed everyone in the building. Some people have the luck of the devil...almost as if Old Nick himself was looking out for them.
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I think Reagan would count as a closer escape considering he was actually shot.
 
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eelw

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pmv said:
Yeah, that has to be the closest escape from assassination since that big table shielded that guy from the blast of the bomb left in the conference room, after the briefcase with it in got pushed further under it by people's feet. Or maybe since the time the same guy left a venue where he was giving a speech 10 minutes early because fog had grounded his plane and so wasn't there when the bomb on a timer (set weeks previously) went off and killed everyone in the building. Some people have the luck of the devil...almost as if Old Nick himself was looking out for them.
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Nah. The cop interrupted him. If he wasnt forced to rush the shot, very likely different outcome and Cannon wouldn’t have needed to dismiss the documents case.
 
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pmv

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fskimospy said:
I think Reagan would count as a closer escape considering he was actually shot.
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Well if it's true that the injury to Trump's ear was from the bullet grazing it, rather than from flying teleprompter glass (still doesn't seem definitively established which it was at this point), then arguably that's the lightest injury anyone could possibly receive and still claim to have been 'shot'.

Really waiting to see how this will affect his state of mind. I don't suppose there's the slightest chance that such a reminder of the fleeting nature of life might make him take a benevolent turn? Probably more likely he'll be more set on vengeance against his "enemies" than ever.
 
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fskimospy

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pmv said:
Well if it's true that the injury to Trump's ear was from the bullet grazing it, rather than from flying teleprompter glass (still doesn't seem definitively established which it was at this point), then arguably that's the lightest injury anyone could possibly receive and still claim to have been 'shot'.

Really waiting to see how this will affect his state of mind. I don't suppose there's the slightest chance that such a reminder of the fleeting nature of life might make him take a benevolent turn? Probably more likely he'll be more set on vengeance against his "enemies" than ever.
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Narcissistic psychopaths respond to things like this with rage and a desire for vengeance.
 
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Pens1566

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pmv said:
Yeah, that has to be the closest escape from assassination since that big table shielded that guy from the blast of the bomb left in the conference room, after the briefcase with it in got pushed further under it by people's feet. Or maybe since the time the same guy left a venue where he was giving a speech 10 minutes early because fog had grounded his plane and so wasn't there when the bomb on a timer (set weeks previously) went off and killed everyone in the building. Some people have the luck of the devil...almost as if Old Nick himself was looking out for them.
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I see what you did there ...
 
nakedfrog

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My partner is currently visiting family members who watch 3-7 hours of Fox News per day, I'm told some of the reporting over this weekend contained selections of Biden speeches that are clearly a call for violence.
 
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Fenixgoon

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nakedfrog said:
My partner is currently visiting family members who watch 3-7 hours of Fox News per day, I'm told some of the reporting over this weekend contained selections of Biden speeches that are clearly a call for violence.
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As in the Biden clips are specifically cut to inflame the rightest of the right?
 
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nakedfrog

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Fenixgoon said:
As in the Biden clips are specifically cut to inflame the rightest of the right?
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I looked up the text, "Fox News says that if you cut and paste together things that Biden has said, it's extremely aggressive and violence seeking and encouraging the Democratic party to kill Trump."
 
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