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Trump NY Criminal Trial

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iRONic said:
So much this!

It's been hard for me to articulate that very same thing. Glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Thank you!
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I live in FL so the opportunities abound for talking with Republicans. I'm outnumbered to say the least including in my own family.

I learned during the Iraq invasion that there really isn't any reasonable discussion to be had. Their reality is not mine, and the two are not compatible. Leave politics out of it and we can get along if need be; I have coworkers and a bandmate where this works and it only works because we stay the hell away from politics. Family too. The first Thanksgiving where someone started ranting about horseshit would be the last one I attend with that person, thankfully we've stayed on safe ground for years now.
 
First shoe about to drop. Obviously orange monkey immediately filed suit to claim immunity on certain parts of the evidence. Prosecution has replied, they have no issue delaying sentencing to discuss this matter. Up to the judge though.
 
eelw said:
First shoe about to drop. Obviously orange monkey immediately filed suit to claim immunity on certain parts of the evidence. Prosecution has replied, they have no issue delaying sentencing to discuss this matter. Up to the judge though.
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To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.
 
Brainonska511 said:
To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.
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I think the argument they will make was that the jury considered evidence it wasn't allowed to consider (Trump's conduct while in office continuing the payments). I think the case is easily strong enough to survive without that evidence though.
 
Brainonska511 said:
To throw out the verdict over the immunity case is farcical. Falsifying your private business records as candidate Trump has nothing to do with "official acts". Though, I wouldn't put it past the partisan supreme court to make up whatever justifications they want.
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Your lack of imagination is what is holding you/us back from realizing what Trump will do next.

Remember, this entire thing started because his lawyers simply claimed "Nah, he's immune." LOL and it worked!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1808172745194185150
 
Fenixgoon said:
What could happen between now and the that would make it unnecessary?
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Fenixgoon said:
What could happen between now and the that would make it unnecessary?
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Trump has appealed to have the conviction reversed and evidence thrown out based on his grand-slam in the Trump court decision - as he now enjoys complete and unconditional immunity for any acts remotely related to presidential activities while he was in the White House, which includes the period when all of the acts charged in New York occurred (all of the falsified business records and payments by Trump occurred while he was in office).

More specifically, the Trump ruling states that one may not question his motives for actions taken while president - and the motive that the payments were in furtherance of election fraud was a prominent claim by the prosecution, including in closing arguments.

The main hurdle will be whether Trump can get over the extremely low bar set by the Supreme Court to claim that this has a possibility of falling somewhere close to official acts of the President as opposed to the as yet undefined microscopic or possibly non-existent space left for "unofficial" acts by the president that he could still be prosecuted for. (As one specific example, any conversations with presidential advisors are a protected official act, no matter the topic, even if it was how to best get money from foreigners into Trump's businesses or how to complete a coup - those discussions are now completely protected and may not be considered criminal nor may such evidence ever be used or referenced in any criminal trial).

The only reason the conviction may stand is that Trump personally signed the checks - if he had directed anyone in the executive office to do so instead, that action would be protected activity that could no longer be criminally charged.
 
brycejones said:
As much as I despise that ruling I don't think it's going to work out that way. We'll know soon.
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I don't think it will stick in the end, but the fact it happened at all, even if the rulings reversed or altered, it was apeshit crazy that it's real. And equally crazy is all his followers who view the ruling here as a good thing. Because apparently everything the Democrats have done to try and get rid of Trump needs to be undone. So this is justice in their eyes.
 
Dave_5k said:
Trump has appealed to have the conviction reversed and evidence thrown out based on his grand-slam in the Trump court decision - as he now enjoys complete and unconditional immunity for any acts remotely related to presidential activities while he was in the White House, which includes the period when all of the acts charged in New York occurred (all of the falsified business records and payments by Trump occurred while he was in office).

More specifically, the Trump ruling states that one may not question his motives for actions taken while president - and the motive that the payments were in furtherance of election fraud was a prominent claim by the prosecution, including in closing arguments.

The main hurdle will be whether Trump can get over the extremely low bar set by the Supreme Court to claim that this has a possibility of falling somewhere close to official acts of the President as opposed to the as yet undefined microscopic or possibly non-existent space left for "unofficial" acts by the president that he could still be prosecuted for. (As one specific example, any conversations with presidential advisors are a protected official act, no matter the topic, even if it was how to best get money from foreigners into Trump's businesses or how to complete a coup - those discussions are now completely protected and may not be considered criminal nor may such evidence ever be used or referenced in any criminal trial).

The only reason the conviction may stand is that Trump personally signed the checks - if he had directed anyone in the executive office to do so instead, that action would be protected activity that could no longer be criminally charged.
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your explanation is greatly appreciated!
 
I swear...we're getting closer and closer to me being right...Trump will NOT face any consequences for his criminal ways.
 
Hehe YT lawyer talking head. He’s betting the orange monkey lawyers going to claim cheques signed while in the Oval Office will be an official act.
 
eelw said:
Hehe YT lawyer talking head. He’s betting the orange monkey lawyers going to claim cheques signed while in the Oval Office will be an official act.
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Of course they are, more likely already did. And the courts will find that falsifying business records is a normal official presidential act.
 
ivwshane said:
I’m not sure how Trump company checks made out to cohen for retainer classifies as official duty. I’m sure the Supreme Court can come up with a reason though.
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So hear me out

We know that trump used his power as president to make deal and etc..

Since the Supreme Court ruled trumps actions are duties of the president all income made from the deals will be property of the US government
 
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