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Fenixgoon said:
they probably deserved it. /s?
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no /s though. Victim blaming is a common American practice. Shit, it’s been happening since always. It’s shameful how this practice is the first response many people make when presented with a scenario. Most people are doling out judgement without even realizing how bad they’re being.
 
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Fenixgoon said:
Articles like this make me want to throw my phone at the wall. Fucking hell.

www.cnn.com

Exclusive: Bob Woodward releasing new audiobook 'The Trump Tapes' with eight hours of recorded interviews | CNN Politics

During a December 2019 Oval Office interview with then-President Donald Trump, Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward asked whether his bellicose rhetoric toward North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had been intended to drive Kim to the negotiating table.
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Holy shit, Trump is parodying Trump now!

During a December 2019 Oval Office interview with then-President Donald Trump, Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward asked whether his bellicose rhetoric toward North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had been intended to drive Kim to the negotiating table.

“No. No. It was designed for whatever reason, it was designed. Who knows? Instinctively. Let’s talk instinct, okay?” Trump said. “Because it’s really about you don’t know what’s going to happen. But it was very rough rhetoric. The roughest.”

Trump then instructed his aides to show Woodward his photos with Kim at the DMZ. “This is me and him. That’s the line, right? Then I walked over the line. Pretty cool. You know? Pretty cool. Right?” the president said.
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Fenixgoon said:
Articles like this make me want to throw my phone at the wall. Fucking hell.

www.cnn.com

Exclusive: Bob Woodward releasing new audiobook 'The Trump Tapes' with eight hours of recorded interviews | CNN Politics

During a December 2019 Oval Office interview with then-President Donald Trump, Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward asked whether his bellicose rhetoric toward North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had been intended to drive Kim to the negotiating table.
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"In the epilogue of “The Trump Tapes,” Woodward declares that his own past assessments critical of Trump’s presidency did not go far enough. In “Rage,” Woodward wrote, “Trump is the wrong man for the job.”

Now, Woodward says, “Trump is an unparalleled danger. The record now shows that Trump has led — and continues to lead — a seditious conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, which in effect is an effort to destroy democracy.”

QFT.
 
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hal2kilo said:
Interesting how the Trump legal team managed to file in person to get Judge Cannon. "Nobody does that anymore".

"I find it bizarre": Experts think it's fishy how Trump Judge Aileen Cannon landed Mar-a-Lago case | Salon.com
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With a pile on.

“This paragraph alone is why DOJ will win”: Experts predict Trump Judge Aileen Cannon’s order doomed | Salon.com

The DOJ argued that there was no threat to Trump's rights because the search of Mar-a-Lago was authorized by a federal judge and because Trump had no right to have the documents in the first place.

"The uncontested record demonstrates that the search was conducted in full accordance with a judicially authorized warrant, and there has been no violation of [Trump's] rights — let alone a 'callous disregard' for them," the DOJ said, adding that Trump had "failed to meet his burden in establishing any need for the seized records — indeed, a substantial number of them are not even his—or in establishing any irreparable injury in their absence, and Plaintiff does not lack an adequate alternative remedy at law."
 
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pete6032 said:
Cannon should have recused herself. Boggles my mind that these judges don't see the conflict of interest in handling a case against the person who appointed you to the position.
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Of course she wouldn't recuse herself, when it was an intentional and coordinated effort to get her on the case to begin with. They (and she) knew she'd give him the rulings that he wanted. She didn't disappoint, she just got shot down by the appellate court and the SCOTUS.
 
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Of course she wouldn't recuse herself, when it was an intentional and coordinated effort to get her on the case to begin with. They (and she) knew she'd give him the rulings that he wanted. She didn't disappoint, she just got shot down by the appellate court and the SCOTUS.
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Still wonder if senate judicial committee will bring her in for impeachment hearing? Or does this still have to start in the House? Who cares if it will never get the votes to remove. She has to be brought in front to answer for her actions.
 
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Still wonder if senate judicial committee will bring her in for impeachment hearing? Or does this still have to start in the House? Who cares if it will never get the votes to remove. She has to be brought in front to answer for her actions.
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Agreed. She was appointed to a position she didn't deserve to begin with, and has since shown WHY she doesn't belong there (or ANY judicial bench).
 
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Still wonder if senate judicial committee will bring her in for impeachment hearing? Or does this still have to start in the House? Who cares if it will never get the votes to remove. She has to be brought in front to answer for her actions.
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I don’t think there’s much point. It would be spun as democrats going after anyone who opposes their tyranny. Also, since we all know she has 0% odds of conviction I don’t think it would deter her or others from future misconduct.
 
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pete6032 said:
Cannon should have recused herself. Boggles my mind that these judges don't see the conflict of interest in handling a case against the person who appointed you to the position.
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I disagree. Who appointed you should have no bearing on how you handle a case. The fact that it did in this instance just goes to show how unqualified she is.
 
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She should have rescued herself because she was bias and unqualified ;)


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I disagree. Who appointed you should have no bearing on how you handle a case. The fact that it did in this instance just goes to show how unqualified she is.
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hal2kilo said:
The Orange Nut Case says they are his personal property.

“Seems like a poor strategy”: Experts knock Trump’s "incoherent" claim that docs are his property | Salon.com
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Much worse he claims some documents are BOTH personal and protected by executive priv (which is pretty insane since that is contradictory).
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But of curse we should all know that these claims are just a process of stalling and do not actually require any basis. We should assume he will do something similar with all 22,000 documents.... well maybe not all....

It will be interesting to see how Judge D responds to this non-sense. Btw he gave the Trump team till well today to resolve the conflicts.
 
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Much worse he claims some documents are BOTH personal and protected by executive priv (which is pretty insane since that is contradictory).
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But of curse we should all know that these claims are just a process of stalling and do not actually require any basis. We should assume he will do something similar with all 22,000 documents.... well maybe not all....

It will be interesting to see how Judge D responds to this non-sense. Btw he gave the Trump team till well today to resolve the conflicts.
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He'll also claim he's never seen the documents that are somehow both (1) personal and (2) presidential office executive privileged, because they were also (3) planted by the FBI as complete fakes. All 3 at the same time. And he's still working on a 4th contradictory excuse to throw at the ketchup stain on the wall if the first 3 fail, like (4) claiming they are legally privileged because Trump totally has an honorary law degree from Trump U so all documents sent to and by him are legally privileged.
 
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To be honest I would love it if he claimed they were 'planted' in a formal court filing.... that would lead to interesting results.... Speaking of which in case you missed it in newly released emails his lawyer told him to drop some of the claims of election fraud in court filings since he knew they weren't true.... lets see what becomes of that mess.

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He'll also claim he's never seen the documents that are somehow both (1) personal and (2) presidential office executive privileged, because they were also (3) planted by the FBI as complete fakes. All 3 at the same time. And he's still working on a 4th contradictory excuse to throw at the ketchup stain on the wall if the first 3 fail, like (4) claiming they are legally privileged because Trump totally has an honorary law degree from Trump U so all documents sent to and by him are legally privileged.
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To be honest I would love it if he claimed they were 'planted' in a formal court filing.... that would lead to interesting results.... Speaking of which in case you missed it in newly released emails his lawyer told him to drop some of the claims of election fraud in court filings since he knew they weren't true.... lets see what becomes of that mess.
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As if it wouldn't be hard enough for his lawyers as it just with the evidence out there. Trump doesn't seem like the type to listen to advice from anyone about anything when he thinks he knows better. And for some reason in his mind he always knows best. I bet he'll continue to spout off about random shit no matter how much they tell him to shut the hell up. Which will undoubtably make everything even harder for his lawyers, who are already fighting an uphill battle.

I find it near impossible to follow his story as he changes them often. But I think he wants me to believe there were no documents, but then claims the FBI planted documents, except he had already declassified all of them. I don't know if he even thinks before he speaks, seems like he doesn't to me.

Meanwhile all of this is non-issues to his followers as many of them seem to think every president ever has taken top secret documents when they left the white house. So why's Trump the 1st to be under the microscope here?

did you know Obama took 13 MILLION pages of documents to his house? I wonder how big his property is as 13 million peices of paper would take up a whole lot of space.
 
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