News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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Muse

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His voice impression is eerily on point
I usually hate biopics because I feel/figure what I'm seeing is nothing like what it was. But Foxx's Ray was, as you say, on point. Add to that the fact that he came off as a blind man, not any blind man, but Ray Charles! I saw it twice and was amazed both times.
 

Fenixgoon

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I usually hate biopics because I feel/figure what I'm seeing is nothing like what it was. But Foxx's Ray was, as you say, on point. Add to that the fact that he came off as a blind man, not any blind man, but Ray Charles! I saw it twice and was amazed both times.
Oh I meant is voice impression of DJT. It's incredible. But yeah he was amazing in Ray too
 
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zinfamous

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You don't need a gun to rob a bank, tellers are instructed to just had the money over.

I think because it has actually become very difficult to rob a bank and get away with it.

This is in direct contrast to how easy it has become to rob the wealth of the people of the US through direct embezzlement of tax dollars spent on personally-owned hotel rooms, golf games, security, etc; steal national security and technology secrets from the US; and commit treason against the United States. Let's see if we are actually capable of dispensing justice against these very real crimes.

As long as the banks are safe, though!
 
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Denly

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Let's assume foreign countries does have sensitive info via Trump - intensional or not TBD, Trump has been linked to Russia for decades, (R) have taken trip to Russia when Trump as in WH, Jared has link to SAE, foreign money flooding US politics, Trump destroys/keeping doc have been known for couple years.

I guess my point is WTF are FBI/CIA/SS and the like doing? Like there are housekeepers in WH, SS is with Trump 24/7.
 
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I think because it has actually become very difficult to rob a bank and get away with it.

This is in direct contrast to how easy it has become to rob the wealth of the people of the US through direct embezzlement of tax dollars spent on personally-owned hotel rooms, golf games, security, etc; steal national security and technology secrets from the US; and commit treason against the United States. Let's see if we are actually capable of dispensing justice against these very real crimes.

As long as the banks are safe, though!
Yup, long time ago I saw a 20/20(?) about how hard it is to rob a bank & how dumb bank robbers are.
Even in the mid 90s excellent quality surveillance was everywhere and covered a surprising amount of outside the bank too. Add in FBI handling bank robberies and it’s like a 90-something percent chance of failure or rapid arrest.
Hitting gas stations is literally more profitable.
 
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Lanyap

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This has probably been posted already but the judge presiding over the special master request is a trump appointee and a long time member of the federalist society (since 2005). It appears that she was fast tracked into a federal judge position with very little experience.

What could go wrong.


2020-present: Judge, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida
2013-2020: Assistant U.S. attorney, U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida
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U.S. District Judge Aileen Mercedes Cannon

Cannon, meanwhile, has previously been grilled on whether she would show "loyalty" to Trump during her appointment hearings.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) asked Cannon if, at any point during her nomination process, she had discussions with anyone, including at the White House or DOJ, showing “loyalty” to Trump. Cannon responded, "No."

When asked about comments Trump made as a candidate and as president, Cannon replied, “As a judicial nominee, it would not be appropriate for me to comment on the political statements of elected officials, including President Trump.”

Cannon was nominated by Trump to the federal bench in May 2020, and she was confirmed by the Senate in November 2020 in a 56-21 vote.

Cannon graduated from the University of Michigan Law School in 2007 and worked as an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida from 2013 to 2020.

The DOJ website features one case prosecuted by Cannon while she was an assistant U.S. attorney, in which a Miami resident was charged with five counts of theft of government funds in 2015 after he allegedly received more than $112,000 in fraudulent tax returns in 2010 and 2011.

As a judge, Cannon oversaw another 2021 case, which resulted in a civil injunction order signed by the judge that permanently barred a Florida tax return preparer from preparing federal tax returns for others after preparing returns for customers that fabricated business expenses of over $40,000 in one instance and over $20,000 in expenses plus over $22,000 in costs of goods sold in another.

She had also been a law clerk for the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals from September 2008 to September 2009 and was a member of the conservative Federalist Society starting in 2005.

Cannon said in a Saturday order that she was providing notice of her "preliminary intent to appoint a special master in this case” and noted the decision was made due to the "exceptional circumstances presented."
 

hal2kilo

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I’d assume the file holders have some sort of identification on them simply to avoid putting the wrong stuff in the file and then someone gets access to that file but actually gets more info than they should have.
Full disclosure I am not an expert on this subject, I do not and never have had security clearance.
Every page of classified material is marked at the top and bottom it's classification. Sometimes there might be a "U" by a paragraph that's been declassified.
 

Lanyap

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I usually hate biopics because I feel/figure what I'm seeing is nothing like what it was. But Foxx's Ray was, as you say, on point. Add to that the fact that he came off as a blind man, not any blind man, but Ray Charles! I saw it twice and was amazed both times.



He's a very talented actor. I would speculate that he has a very high IQ like many other talented actors who do well in a broad spectrum of artistic activities.
 
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pcgeek11

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what if I told you that the Saudi's already gave the Kusher's $2 billion, and we don't know why?


From my understanding it was an investment into his new firm. They also invested 1 billion in Steven Mnuchin's investment fund.

Neither of which was illegal as far as anyone knows....


The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

No law or rules constrain the investment activities of former administration officials after leaving the White House; many from both parties have profited from connections and experiences gained in government.
 

fskimospy

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From my understanding it was an investment into his new firm. They also invested 1 billion in Steven Mnuchin's investment fund.

Neither of which was illegal as far as anyone knows....


The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

No law or rules constrain the investment activities of former administration officials after leaving the White House; many from both parties have profited from connections and experiences gained in government.
It's true that the Saudis giving a totally unqualified investment manager with a history of massive business failure $2 billion, twice what they invested with someone with a track record of financial success, is not illegal. Of course anyone with a functioning brain would view such a deal as likely indicative of corruption. Like, can anyone make a business case as to why the Saudis would do this? Maybe they just mixed things up and accidentally put a huge sum of money in Jared Kushner's pocket like Qatar did when they 'accidentally' bailed out Kushner's failing real estate investments.

If the FBI is not currently investigating Kushner they should be.
 
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From my understanding it was an investment into his new firm. They also invested 1 billion in Steven Mnuchin's investment fund.

Neither of which was illegal as far as anyone knows....


The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

No law or rules constrain the investment activities of former administration officials after leaving the White House; many from both parties have profited from connections and experiences gained in government.

Cool enough, now say the same thing but insert “Hillary”, “Chelsea or her Husband whom I don’t know the name of” and “The Clinton Foundation”
Do you understand why people like me have a concern about the Saudi involvement?

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you are pcgeek(ier) than me Mr. Fast type
 
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ivwshane

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I like the motivated reasoning. Extremely large sum of money for someone with a poor business track record…no problems, no concerns…but the fbi raiding a former president for possession of illegal documents? Well I have lots of questions for the DOJ and why they did this.
 

fskimospy

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Looks to be marketed Asian Pacific. So outside FBI jurisdiction

They should be investigating Kushner personally, which is definitely in their jurisdiction. The most likely explanation for this bizarre and huge financial windfall for Kushner is that this is payback for favorable US policy.
 

pcgeek11

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I like the motivated reasoning. Extremely large sum of money for someone with a poor business track record…no problems, no concerns…but the fbi raiding a former president for possession of illegal documents? Well I have lots of questions for the DOJ and why they did this.


I said it was suspicious. If there is something to it I hope they find it.
Without anything to go on it just seems like a shitty investment by the Saudi's. Just like Paul Pelosi's investments, without evidence he is just an investment God.
 

fskimospy

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I like the motivated reasoning. Extremely large sum of money for someone with a poor business track record…no problems, no concerns…but the fbi raiding a former president for possession of illegal documents? Well I have lots of questions for the DOJ and why they did this.
Yes, Kushner’s most notable business achievements are bankrupting the Observer and almost bankrupting the company he inherited until he was ‘accidentally’ bailed out by a country with pressing business before the US government.
 

eelw

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but the fbi raiding a former president for possession of illegal documents? Well I have lots of questions for the DOJ and why they did this.
Really? Garland not pursuing the orange monkey for Mueller report. Only getting serious for Jan 6 investigation. Now he decides to throw caution in the wind with this search? If anything, it just proves how bad it is that he went this route.