Trump makes Pocahontas (Warren) joke at Navajo Code Talker event in WH

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MrPickins

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I'm curious what Trump has done to gain your support. He has essentially no legislative accomplishments. He's made America an international joke. He has lost us our status of leader of the developed world. He withdrew from a non-binding Paris agreement for no rational reason. He's tried to ban transgenders from the military for no reason other than bigotry. He's tried to ban travelers based on their religion. He's decimated the EPA, he's been caught up in a state of continual scandal (crooked Hillary?) from the allegations of collutions with Russia to his fraudulent university and obstruction of justice, he's offended basically every demographic other than white males, he's demonstrated a clear lack of understanding of the basics of governmental process, he's in the process of destroying consumer protections, his cabinet has been in a state of perpetual disarray, he pushed a disastrous health care bill and is now pushing a disastrous tax overhaul, and that's just a list off the top of my head. It just scratches the surface. Ah, I almost forgot destroying net neutrality. Either you had the lowest expectations in the history of mankind's existence for Trump, you enjoy the chaos he creates and the suffering he inflicts upon the citizens of America, or else you are completely unaware of what he's actually been doing.

You're talking to the guy that thinks Trump is awesome because he insults people.
 

alien42

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No, that's why he's savage. He's not awesome, but he's way better than crooked Hillary.

as if savage is what anyone wants a leader to be...

Definition of savage
1a : not domesticated or under human control : untamed
  • savage beasts
b : lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings : fierce, ferocious
  • a savage criminal
2: wild, uncultivated
  • seldom have I seen such savage scenery
  • —Douglas Carruthers
3a : boorish, rude
  • the savage bad manners of most motorists
  • —M. P. O'Connor
b : malicious
4: lacking complex or advanced culture : uncivilized
  • a savage country
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/savage
 

soundforbjt

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Feb 15, 2002
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as if savage is what anyone wants a leader to be...

Definition of savage
1a : not domesticated or under human control : untamed
  • savage beasts
b : lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings : fierce, ferocious
  • a savage criminal
2: wild, uncultivated
  • seldom have I seen such savage scenery
  • —Douglas Carruthers
3a : boorish, rude
  • the savage bad manners of most motorists
  • —M. P. O'Connor
b : malicious
4: lacking complex or advanced culture : uncivilized
  • a savage country
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/savage
He must love Putin, he makes Trump look like a bitch.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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I think this is you guys creating huge exaggerations, then attacking those exaggerated caricatures of what you create in your mind as if that represents reality. Let's see how many lakes burn over the next seven years. Protecting the environment is wonderful, an over reaching EPA is not. The EPA has become Walter Peck.

Still waiting

Well then can you give us some examples of EPA's overreach off the top of your head?
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Still waiting

Also, didn’t Walter Peck kind of have a point? Do you really want people walking around with unregulated nuclear reactors and operating machinery where if there is EVER a loss of power for any reason it will be like ‘dropping a bomb in the city’?

I’m all for the ghostbusters’ ghost busting and marshmallow man destroying but I also don’t want buildings that explode every time there’s a bad thunderstorm.
 

SlowSpyder

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Also, didn’t Walter Peck kind of have a point? Do you really want people walking around with unregulated nuclear reactors and operating machinery where if there is EVER a loss of power for any reason it will be like ‘dropping a bomb in the city’?

I’m all for the ghostbusters’ ghost busting and marshmallow man destroying but I also don’t want buildings that explode every time there’s a bad thunderstorm.

You are a Stay-Puffed sympathizer. See how this game works?
 

fskimospy

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I like his non-party line, America-first desires for our country. Partisan types will not be able to digest what he's doing.

Then you must really hate his actions as he has done functionally nothing out of line with the desires of congressional Republicans. I imagine this is because he depends on them to stymie any investigations into his corruption. He talks a big game but when the chips are down he does what he’s told.

Regardless, do you have an ETA on those examples of EPA overreach?
 

trenchfoot

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Trump's supporter's attempts at normalizing his behavior is failing miserably. And it's not for lack of effort as we've noticed this top to bottom all hands on deck PR effort to portray Trump's despicable childish behavior as anything other than what it really is.

There's no getting around the fact that Trump, along with his crippling self-defeating behavior would not survive a truly major existential threat to the nation he supposedly leads if not for the support of the existing infrastructure, logistics and military capabilities left behind by his predecessors. This is mostly due to the fact that his focus and severely limited abilities are fully concentrated on elevating his and those others of the aristocrat class as high as he can possibly achieve it before he leaves office. It doesn't help matters much that his party is also similarly focused.

Trump is unreliable, easily provoked, easily manipulated and lacks the leadership qualities that our nation needs to retain its formidable position as a world leader, a benchmark for the democratic principles of governance while also possessing the capability of protecting itself from outside threats as well as projecting its umbrella of security over its allies.

Never has the nation and its allies been so threatened of their existence and world status because of one man being in the wrong place at the wrong time, all due to his and his party's ability to convince millions of folks to vote with their emotions rather than their reasoning abilities.

If that's all it takes to grasp the reins of power and keep it, then we as a nation is well and truly screwed. Putin saw it and took full advantage of it. I'm sure every other nation ally or enemy is also sure to take advantage of it. Add to this the fact that Trump's overly inflated ego and his penchant for relying on himself rather than those much more knowledgeable than himself for making national policy decisions and we have the making of a whole nation suffering a debilitating blow to its status on the world stage.

I know exactly who to blame. I wish for them to wise up and see through this scam that they're being victimized by before it's too late to do anything about it. The middle class is what makes this nation great and not the few very wealthy who wish to rip away the people's right to self determination.
 

Puffnstuff

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Mar 9, 2005
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Trump's supporter's attempts at normalizing his behavior is failing miserably. And it's not for lack of effort as we've noticed this top to bottom all hands on deck PR effort to portray Trump's despicable childish behavior as anything other than what it really is.
There's nothing conservative about any of them as they attempt to hide behind religion while behaving this way.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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No, that's why he's savage. He's not awesome, but he's way better than crooked Hillary.

you don't even have a rational argument to make this assertion.

it would behoove you to make actual argument, don't you think, with details on how Trump is actually better than what Hillary would have been. "Trump is better than crooked Hillary" isn't a statement of anything without any sort of reasoning behind it.

what is your actual argument?
 
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Thump553

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This is a three year old article, with no apparent followup as to what resulted. From reading the article - buried way at the end- I'm guessing it was seized because it was imported with a fraudulent VIN and wasn't built to comply with US emissions laws.

The seizure is like an arrest, not a conviction. What did the owner do to contest the seizure? I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by citing this article, it really doesn't stand for anything other than a country (the USA) has a right to enact and enforce it's own import laws.
 

Thebobo

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Jun 19, 2006
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Your interpretation of this article is sad.

DHS which did the raid has nothing to do with the EPA.

"Some 40 Land Rover owners across the U.S. woke up Tuesday morning to police and federal investigators knocking on their doors and demanding they hand over their trucks. Officials say it's part of an ongoing criminal investigation into the illegal importation of Land Rovers into this country, Jalopnik has learned."

https://jalopnik.com/the-feds-just-seized-40-land-rovers-imported-to-the-u-s-1605985758

Now be honest with yourself and admit that the EPA is not the boogeyman.
 
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J.Wilkins

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I'd say it's about the same as Merkel giving a speech to Jews in front of a painting depicting the person who ordered their genocide.

But America has no shame and has never done anything wrong ever in the history of mankind so this is all well.