Trump is going to Mexico?

[Vic]

Unfortunately Obama hasn't done shit about the illegal immigration problem.

Just because you keep saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Obama has been considerably more aggressive on illegal immigration that his recent predecessors, and the numbers prove it. Deportations have been up during his administration and the overall number of illegals in the country is down.

 

[shortylickens]

I did not know this:

https://jackbrummet.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-sad-day-for-ann-coulter-and-her-new.html

Ann Coulter said in her book she could forgive Trump for anything, except changing his stance on immigration. Her book dropped the same day he made his infamous flip-flop.
I dont think a visit to Mexico helped him at all, because he had already trashed his reputation with Hispanics and now he's probably irritated some staunch conservatives.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I did not know this:

https://jackbrummet.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-sad-day-for-ann-coulter-and-her-new.html

Ann Coulter said in her book she could forgive Trump for anything, except changing his stance on immigration. Her book dropped the same day he made his infamous flip-flop.
I dont think a visit to Mexico helped him at all, because he had already trashed his reputation with Hispanics and now he's probably irritated some staunch conservatives.

Yea, he's really trying to not be elected. Maybe it is some grand spoof. That would seriously piss off a lot of people if he just said he was running for shits and giggles

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I did not know this:

https://jackbrummet.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-sad-day-for-ann-coulter-and-her-new.html

Ann Coulter said in her book she could forgive Trump for anything, except changing his stance on immigration. Her book dropped the same day he made his infamous flip-flop.
I dont think a visit to Mexico helped him at all, because he had already trashed his reputation with Hispanics and now he's probably irritated some staunch conservatives.

A number of his Hispanic surrogates quit as a result of his speech. More are openly questioning their continued support. Certainly won't help given that he was actually polling slightly higher overall with Hispanics than the vote totals Romney received. That will most likely drop after that speech.

Although today he was back saying he's softening his stance. Guy is all over the place.

 

[DrPizza]

Yea, he's really trying to not be elected. Maybe it is some grand spoof. That would seriously piss off a lot of people if he just said he was running for shits and giggles

Yet his polling numbers went up a bit. Looks like he's going to have to test out shooting someone on the street.

 

[Ns1]

A number of his Hispanic surrogates quit as a result of his speech.

CBS News reported Thursday that 15 of nearly two dozen members on the council had resigned.
...
“For the last two months, he said he was not going to deport people without criminal records," Aguilar said on CNN. "And then we heard yesterday, and I was totally disappointed — not surprised, but disappointed — and slightly misled, because he gave the impression and the campaign gave the impression until yesterday morning that he was going to deal with the undocumented in a compassionate way.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-1472752828-htmlstory.html

 

[sandorski]

Goes to Mexico, seems reasonable. Returns from Mexico, seems crazier than before.

 

[OutHouse]

Just because you keep saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Obama has been considerably more aggressive on illegal immigration that his recent predecessors, and the numbers prove it. Deportations have been up during his administration and the overall number of illegals in the country is down.

totally false. there are more ICE detention facilities and more people in them since obama has been office, and the numbers prove it..

 

[Vic]

totally false. there are more ICE detention facilities and more people in them since obama has been office, and the numbers prove it..

Because the courts aren't processing the deportations fast enough.

 

[pcgeek11]

Well, right there's your problem. While it's a non-profit, it's certainly NOT nonpartisan...it's rather conservative, esp. seen by articles on its front page, such as "Gang of Eight" members McCain and Rubio win primaries... now why would the non-partisan site refer to McCain and Rubio as members of the "Gang of Eight" unless it's trying to push, albeit not so subtlety, that both were for immigration reform that the "Center" opposes?

http://cis.org/north/gang-eight-members-mccain-and-rubio-win-primaries-does-arpaio

Even though you do not like that particular source, the facts are they changed the way the numbers are counted. This skewed the results.

The numerical effect, though, is to include the Border Patrol “referrals” in the ICE count of “removals,” and thus both sets of government data are counted as deportations. In previous administrations, those caught at the border were not counted as deportations

 

[pcgeek11]

Just because you keep saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Obama has been considerably more aggressive on illegal immigration that his recent predecessors, and the numbers prove it. Deportations have been up during his administration and the overall number of illegals in the country is down.

Nope. They are manipulating the numbers.

 

[Vic]

Nope. They are manipulating the numbers.

Yeah, it's always a conspiracy theory of some kind with Trumpsters.

 

[MongGrel]

Goes to Mexico, seems reasonable. Returns from Mexico, seems crazier than before.

Appears so.

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/01/49227...e-known-about-trump-s-border-enforcement-plan

 

[pcgeek11]

Yeah, it's always a conspiracy theory of some kind with Trumpsters.

No actually it is always a conspiracy theory when Hillary is involved....

The numbers are false, face it. The facts are the facts.

 

[MongGrel]

totally false. there are more ICE detention facilities and more people in them since obama has been office, and the numbers prove it..

Quoted wrong poster ?

NM, I see were you're attempting to go there.

 

[MongGrel]

No actually it is always a conspiracy theory when Hillary is involved....

The numbers are false, face it. The facts are the facts.

You do not bother to read facts. You just rant.

 

[pcgeek11]

You do not bother to read facts. You just rant.

LOL!

 

[MongGrel]

LOL!

Gee, I feel so burnt down atm.

Nah.

 

[pcgeek11]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...stration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

• The Obama administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations. Specifically, those caught by the Border Patrol who are shuttled to a different town along the border before they are returned are being dishonestly counted as deportations. This has falsely increased the number of total removals by more than 100,000 for the past two years.
• In fact, if we count removals and returns together historically, then the Obama administration numbers are not close to “record-setting.” In the 1990s, the totals of returns and removals were well over one million. For example, according to the yearbook of immigration statistics, in 1996, removals and returns numbered more than 1.6 million, up from more than 1.3 million in 1995.
• In an October 2011 roundtable with Hispanic reporters, President Obama himself said the deportation numbers were artificially high because they include those caught at the border:

“The statistics are actually a little deceptive because what we’ve been doing is, with the stronger border enforcement, we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation, even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours, sent back – that’s counted as a deportation.”

• On January 31, 2013, White House domestic policy chief Cecilia Muñoz – formerly the Senior Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy and Legislation at the National Council of La Raza – blamed Congress for the “record” number of deportations carried out by the Obama administration:

“The government’s job is to do what Congress tells it to do. Congress, under the immigration laws that we’ve got now, Congress requires us to remove people who are removable and gives DHS, frankly, a whole lot of resources to do that job. DHS’s job is to make sure they make the best possible decisions on how they use those resources.”

 

[MongGrel]

You should try hitting the gamer gate thread, would work better for your mindset.

 

[Meghan54]

You should try hitting the gamer gate thread, would work better for your mindset.

Naaa...there's not conspiracy theory in that thread for glenn.

 

[Indus]

No actually it is always a conspiracy theory when Hillary is involved....

The numbers are false, face it. The facts are the facts.

Come on now.. I know you'll never agree on the other side but lets face it.. Obama has been good.. gas was $5.47 a gallon, its $2.51 now. But instead all we hear from Trumpers are how its skyrocketed under Obama.

The sadness in my heart is that I truly would have voted for Kasich over Hillary in a heartbeat but numbnuts have given us another choice.. another lesser of two evils but there is only 1 truly great evil.. the satanic Drumpf.

 

[pcgeek11]

You should try hitting the gamer gate thread, would work better for your mindset.

Oh that wit. Sharp as a razor.

 

[MongGrel]

Oh that wit. Sharp as a razor.

I could just type LOL and digress to your level I suppose.

Actually, from things recently, well in the past also, cya

 

[pcgeek11]

I could just type LOL and digress to your level I suppose.

Actually, from things recently, well in the past also, cya

Goes both ways.

Obviously you didn't actually read the facts.