Trump is going to jail for a long, long time...

[Thunder 57]

You do that if it's more important to you to believe you are right than it is to consider that you might be wrong.

Wrong regarding what? I've already said I don't support the guy.

 

[raildogg]

No elite level politician/celebrity will face consequences.

War criminals in the Bush, Obama and Trump administration will never face justice here in earth.

Trump should be held responsible for his supposed dropping of the so-called MOAB in Afghanistan and also his strike against Syria. But no, we're too occupied about scoring political points.

This Democrat vs Republican clown show needs to stop. But it won't because most people are part of this clown show.

 

[jackstar7]

Wrong regarding what? I've already said I don't support the guy.

Wrong about your judgment of who the bigger threat to our country is/was.

Since you insist that she be labeled as evil, she was certainly the lesser of the two.

 

[dank69]

Thank you for noticing and correcting. I wouldn't call someone here a dumbass. At least I don't think. Like you said, you were going for smartass so I didn't think that would upset you/anyone.



My brain is working just fine, thank you. Even if they weren't hacked, what she did was still very much wrong. Then there's the whole fact that she went and had them deleted.

She didn't delete anything. She turned everything over to her lawyers. The lawyers determined what was relevant to the investigation and what was not. The lawyers then destroyed everything that was not relevant.

 

[jmagg]

She didn't delete anything. She turned everything over to her lawyers. The lawyers determined what was relevant to the investigation and what was not. The lawyers then destroyed everything that was not relevant.[/QUOTE

Except that's not how it works outside the untouchable circle.

 

[dank69]

Except that's not how it works outside the untouchable circle.

Please, elaborate. If you can afford a lawyer that's exactly how it works. If you can't afford a lawyer, yeah I suppose you probably aren't qualified to decide what is or is not relevant. So what? What is it exactly that you think she did wrong?

 

[werepossum]

When I first saw your thread title, I amusingly misread it as "Trump is going to FAIL for a long, long time," a point that I think is inarguable.

Why do you think his willingness to testify means he's going to jail?

Because he cannot exist in a world where Mommy doesn't make the bad man go away. Trump Derangement Syndrome at its finest.

 

[jackstar7]

Trump Derangement Syndrome at its finest.

You are carrying water from a poisoned well.

 

[jmagg]

Please, elaborate. If you can afford a lawyer that's exactly how it works. If you can't afford a lawyer, yeah I suppose you probably aren't qualified to decide what is or is not relevant. So what? What is it exactly that you think she did wrong?

In "matters" like these, the judge decides what is and isn't relevant.

 

[Thunder 57]

In "matters" like these, the judge decides what is and isn't relevant.

That is usually how it works. But then again, https://youtu.be/FtVllgTPyfk?t=12s

Who knows?

 

[buckshot24]

He really isn't. Assuming there are no tapes of their conversations then how can they convict Trump of perjury, even if convicting the president of a crime was a thing that could happen? No one will believe a word he says of course because he's Trump, but there will be no way to prove what he said was a lie because there were no other witnesses.

Glad to see some sanity from you on this. Plus his lawyers aren't going to allow him go go under oath on this question.

 

[zinfamous]

The left really seems to have come unhinged, every week it's another "now THIS is the real thing, now he's going to jail!". Even otherwise rational people have gone down that rabbit hole, it's bizarre.

so the left is unhinged. Even if that is quantifiably true, it pales in comparison to whatever descriptor can be placed on the actual people that convinced themselves that voting for "Donald J Trump" was a good idea.

 

[buckshot24]

so the left is unhinged. Even if that is quantifiably true, it pales in comparison to whatever descriptor can be placed on the actual people that convinced themselves that voting for "Donald J Trump" was a good idea.

Do you really think you said anything here? You people have nothing on this whole Russia/Trump nonsense but wild conspiracies and strained innuendo. Deal with reality that Trump is going to be president until the end of his term, at least, and you're going to be much better off.

 

[buckshot24]

Didn't Clinton commit perjury? How long did he spend in jail?

 

[zinfamous]

Do you really think you said anything here? You people have nothing on this whole Russia/Trump nonsense but wild conspiracies and strained innuendo. Deal with reality that Trump is going to be president until the end of his term, at least, and you're going to be much better off.

you're coming unhinged, loose shat-er.

 

[zinfamous]

Didn't Clinton commit perjury? How long did he spend in jail?

The senate voted down on impeachment (rejecting the House vote), if you recall. So he was not impeached. We'll just have to see how this plays out. Personally, I doubt that the craven hatred the republicans hold for this country, being that they are in power, will allow them to impeach the criminal POTUS, so we will just have to see.

 

[buckshot24]

The senate voted down on impeachment (rejecting the House vote), if you recall. So he was not impeached. We'll just have to see how this plays out. Personally, I doubt that the craven hatred the republicans hold for this country, being that they are in power, will allow them to impeach the criminal POTUS, so we will just have to see.

Semantics but he was impeached successfully but was acquitted by the senate. Impeachment is like an indictment not a conviction so he was impeached. That trial wasn't going to get him thrown in jail anyway, it wasn't a criminal trial but a political one.

 

[LPCTech]

Do you really think you said anything here? You people have nothing on this whole Russia/Trump nonsense but wild conspiracies and strained innuendo. Deal with reality that Trump is going to be president until the end of his term, at least, and you're going to be much better off.

You are correct partially. The dude has committed some crimes, the issue is evidence. But really I dont think impeaching him at all is a good idea.

Its better if he is president for the 2018 elections, he will help democrats gain some seats. And In 2020 I think democrats will prefer to run against Trump and not Pence.

I am hoping that having him in office will win us seats in congress and the presidency in 2020. I think removing him will be worse as then democrats many have to run against someone that may potentially seem competent. And more people will come out to vote against "Trump".

He can be prosecuted for any crimes he has committed after he is out of office.

 

[zinfamous]

Semantics but he was impeached successfully but was acquitted by the senate. Impeachment is like an indictment not a conviction so he was impeached. That trial wasn't going to get him thrown in jail anyway, it wasn't a criminal trial but a political one.

no, that is not semantics. He was not impeached successfully if both houses of Congress did not agree. Do you understand that? That is just a simple truth. It is easy to understand. It isn't debatable. It isn't semantics. Andrew Johnson was also not impeached, because of a single vote in the senate.

right, it wasn't a criminal trial. That can only occur after a successful impeachment. Nixon very likely would have been the only president to have ever been impeached and to face criminal charges, but he quit.

 

[zinfamous]

You are correct partially. The dude has committed some crimes, the issue is evidence. But really I dont think impeaching him at all is a good idea.

Its better if he is president for the 2018 elections, he will help democrats gain some seats. And In 2020 I think democrats will prefer to run against Trump and not Pence.

I am hoping that having him in office will win us seats in congress and the presidency in 2020. I think removing him will be worse as then democrats many have run against someone that may potentially seem competent.

He can be prosecuted for any crimes he has committed after he is out of office.

Impeachment will take at least 1, probably 1 and a half years. The timing is rather perfect, actually...assuming it starts this year (I highly doubt it will). Imagine trying to run as a republican while your president is sitting through impeachment. haha.

 

[buckshot24]

no, that is not semantics. He was not impeached successfully if both houses of Congress did not agree. Do you understand that? That is just a simple truth. It is easy to understand. It isn't debatable. It isn't semantics. Andrew Johnson was also not impeached, because of a single vote in the senate.

right, it wasn't a criminal trial. That can only occur after a successful impeachment. Nixon very likely would have been the only president to have ever been impeached and to face criminal charges, but he quit.

You're just wrong. Clinton was impeached (indicted) but was acquitted by the senate. Don't triple down on stupid, you're wrong.

 

[buckshot24]

Impeachment will take at least 1, probably 1 and a half years. The timing is rather perfect, actually...assuming it starts this year (I highly doubt it will). Imagine trying to run as a republican while your president is sitting through impeachment. haha.

More delusion. Not going to happen zinny. Deal with that truth.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You're just wrong. Clinton was impeached (indicted) but was acquitted by the senate. Don't triple down on stupid, you're wrong.

lol, shatty, you're funny, and a total fucking moron, but funny, nonetheless.

 

[buckshot24]

lol, shatty, you're funny, and a total fucking moron, but funny, nonetheless.

That may be true but I am correct on what impeachment is. Educate yourself and tell Zin he's wrong.

 

[LPCTech]

Perhaps if democrats had more power right now, I would favor impeachment. But this will only happen when its favorable for the republicans in congress. But I think its important for America to suffer through this as a lesson to be careful who they vote for and to be careful not to just "not vote" cuz you are iffy on your candidate and allow an unfit person into office out of "fk the system spite".
Democrats failing to desire to vote for Hillary was what got Trump elected. Thinking how bad could it be, lets shake things up. yeah dont.