Trump is the leader his followers can feel superior to. Once you accept this perverse mind view you will understand why he was elected. Of course it could be akin to the ancient practice of granting a selected person high privilege and then sacrificing them to appease the Gods at the end of the year.
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Trump is going to jail for a long, long time...
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xthetenth
Golden Member
We're already well past Watergate. The thing that's keeping Donald afloat is the utter craven mendacity at the heart of the modern right, not anything to do with actual facts. They don't care though, they don't have any principles other than a feeling that reality should conform to a narrative where lefties are enraged and their figurehead should remain in power.
People just don't get that we live in a nightmare world where the GOP has control and can make an utter farce out of any pretensions to the rule of law.
No. He's the person who they aspire to be, the person who can shout a narrative utterly regardless of whether or not it's true.
People just don't get that we live in a nightmare world where the GOP has control and can make an utter farce out of any pretensions to the rule of law.
No. He's the person who they aspire to be, the person who can shout a narrative utterly regardless of whether or not it's true.
Thunder 57
Diamond Member
We get it, Trump sucks. Hillary sucked more. I didn't support either.
It's foolish to say he is going to jail just because he say's he'll testify under oath. Maybe he won't. Maybe he won't say anything to incriminate himself if he did. But the biggest reason is to look at Bill Clinton. He lied under oath. I know who cares it wasn't about anything important, but the Dems saved him there. You don't think the House would do the same now?
It's foolish to say he is going to jail just because he say's he'll testify under oath. Maybe he won't. Maybe he won't say anything to incriminate himself if he did. But the biggest reason is to look at Bill Clinton. He lied under oath. I know who cares it wasn't about anything important, but the Dems saved him there. You don't think the House would do the same now?
s0me0nesmind1
Lifer
GTFO with your logic, reasoning, and factual information. That has no bearing here, especially in a thread of accusing Trump of random things. We need to remain irrational and stupid, so someone should be by to delete your post shortly.
(FWIW., I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I voted Hillary as a "lesser of two evils" this past election grudgingly. Either way we're screwed it's just a matter of how screwed).
jackstar7
Lifer
Asking for a friend, what about Hilary sucked more? Is it the antagonistic relationship to Russia?
Not that I want to rehash those dark days, but while both parties and candidates sucked, the last thing I really wanted was the GOP controlling every branch of govt. I wouldn't want the Democrats doing so either, but I feel they can do less damage overall. Not that this was an option this election in any case.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
Well duh, it's Benemailzi
disappoint
Lifer
Hehe, what's really hilarious is they've managed to convince themselves everything will be fine just as soon as Trump is ousted. Like Mike Pence is going to really MAGA this place up, unlike Trump. The reality is Mike Pence isn't going to do much differently, other than not regale us with late night entertaining Twitter rants.
The other point flying over their hate muddled minds is that Pence is probably more likely to win a second term whereas Trump stands a snowballs chance in hell of not rallying Dems to show up at the polls unless 1) The Dems prop up yet another dimwit candidate, and/or 2) If they've lost their minds even further between now and then instead of getting it together.
edcoolio
Senior member
If I had to bet my own personal hard earned cash, it would be that President Trump does not "go to jail".
Willing to testify under oath is a far cry from your alarmist headline.
Realistically speaking, it is practically impossible to impeach a president, much less put one in jail.
Hell, President Clinton was caught dead to rights, committing perjury ON VIDEO, in stereo, and in full color.
He did not lose his job (impeachment) nor serve a second of jail time for a straight up felony when he found a handful of Republicans willing to put aside partisanship.
Trust me, if you or I did any of the crap these heads of state have done, they would throw us in jail and eat the key.
Willing to testify under oath is a far cry from your alarmist headline.
Realistically speaking, it is practically impossible to impeach a president, much less put one in jail.
Hell, President Clinton was caught dead to rights, committing perjury ON VIDEO, in stereo, and in full color.
He did not lose his job (impeachment) nor serve a second of jail time for a straight up felony when he found a handful of Republicans willing to put aside partisanship.
Trust me, if you or I did any of the crap these heads of state have done, they would throw us in jail and eat the key.
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Thunder 57
Diamond Member
Before I begin, let me say that Trump is an arrogant, narcissistic asshat.
The thing that bugged me the most was the email server that was likely hacked into by several foreign nations. She's also not very 2A friendly.
No smartass, though that wasn't exactly a good look either.
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I wanted to add a few more thoughts before I get beat on too badly (as this forum does seem to lean rather left, not saying that's a bad thing). I really don't like politicians in general. When Obama was in office, Republicans wouldn't shut up about the deficit. Now, they don't care. And that goes both ways, Dems will gladly flip as well.
The Republicans also screwed up with Net Neutrality. Then there's the hardcore religious ones that just give them all a bad name.
Only a few that actually don't follow the party line are worth a crap. Examples being Rand Paul and Joe Manchin.
The thing that bugged me the most was the email server that was likely hacked into by several foreign nations. She's also not very 2A friendly.
No smartass, though that wasn't exactly a good look either.
EDIT
I wanted to add a few more thoughts before I get beat on too badly (as this forum does seem to lean rather left, not saying that's a bad thing). I really don't like politicians in general. When Obama was in office, Republicans wouldn't shut up about the deficit. Now, they don't care. And that goes both ways, Dems will gladly flip as well.
The Republicans also screwed up with Net Neutrality. Then there's the hardcore religious ones that just give them all a bad name.
Only a few that actually don't follow the party line are worth a crap. Examples being Rand Paul and Joe Manchin.
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ivwshane
Lifer
Lol! A poster says benemailzi and you state your reason because of the whole email thing and you call him a dumb ass? You literally just proved his point!
dank69
Lifer
That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.
What do you suppose would have happened if Clinton had lied, dead to rights ON VIDEO, in stereo, and in full color, hundreds of times in one sitting?
brandonbull
Diamond Member
The sane world calls it innofluenza. You catch it when you haven't done the crime you are being accused of.
edcoolio
Senior member
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
to be fair, he called me a smartass, which is clearly what I was attempting to be.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
hahahahahahahha... this sane world you speak of, have you heard rumors of it? Perhaps
jackstar7
Lifer
Bolded a key word.
Sounds like you weighed a potential problem over very real problems.
Fix your brain.
xthetenth
Golden Member
Fun fact: Between Hillary and her predecessor Colin Powell, doing something other than having a private e-mail server would have been literally unprecedented.
Other fun fact: Given where leaks from the DNC and Clinton campaign came from, there's some real strong, albeit circumstantial, evidence that it didn't get hacked, unlike the government servers, which were hacked during that time period, which we know did.
Don't worry though, that's not as big a deal as the most nakedly corrupt administration in the past century at the very least.
Other fun fact: Given where leaks from the DNC and Clinton campaign came from, there's some real strong, albeit circumstantial, evidence that it didn't get hacked, unlike the government servers, which were hacked during that time period, which we know did.
Don't worry though, that's not as big a deal as the most nakedly corrupt administration in the past century at the very least.
Thunder 57
Diamond Member
Thank you for noticing and correcting. I wouldn't call someone here a dumbass. At least I don't think. Like you said, you were going for smartass so I didn't think that would upset you/anyone.
My brain is working just fine, thank you. Even if they weren't hacked, what she did was still very much wrong. Then there's the whole fact that she went and had them deleted.
jackstar7
Lifer
Trump U - Real.
Pussy Grabber - Real.
Russia - Real.
But her emails? Really?
No, your brain is broken.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
Nah, if you see the potential issues with hillary as a real and justified reason to make her a worse option than drumpf, you are way, way wrong.
drumpf is, bar none, the absolute worst president we've had. And dubya set that limbo bar pretty fucking low.
Thunder 57
Diamond Member
Don't forget Trump steaks!
He's got a lot of shit too. I'm sure I can come up with more reasons Hillary sucks as well.
And I didn't vote for him, so no, my brain is not broken.
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jackstar7
Lifer
You do that if it's more important to you to believe you are right than it is to consider that you might be wrong.
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